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Re: Money the Master

Unread postby Falconoffury » Wed 06 Dec 2006, 22:09:20

I've only watched, Money the Master, so far, but it is truly a brilliant film.

All the Federal Reserve does is take government bonds, issue money, and collect interest payments. All they do is constantly funnel in wealth from the rest of the world, and provide no useful service to the common man.

If the USA issued greenbacks, they wouldn't be burdened with interest payments to any private banks. They would have more capital and freedom to provide useful services to the common man.

Think about it. Instead of funneling all that wealth into a small group who have no interest in doing anything for the majority of the population, we could let the government have the wealth. The government is elected by the people, to serve the interests of the people. The private bankers have no interest to serve anyone except their own little club.

If many of you really payed attention to Money the Master, you would see the obvious advantages of the greenback. Fiat money, for sure, but at least redirected to the largest group of people.
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Re: Money the Master

Unread postby mmasters » Thu 07 Dec 2006, 00:33:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Falconoffury', 'I')f the USA issued greenbacks, they wouldn't be burdened with interest payments to any private banks.

FYI there's currently a bill lobbying the F E D to take ownership of the US Mint and the Bureau of Engraving and printing off the Treasury. Is it any wonder what they're trying to block...
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Re: Money the Master

Unread postby greenworm » Thu 07 Dec 2006, 01:53:46

Kinda off topic, but does anyone have information on the Mckinley assassination or a good link? I have been digging through a lot of crap and hardly getting anywhere, I feel like somebody probably has a book dedicated to it or a web page, but I can't find it. So far, all I got is Roosevelt(first skull/bones man to get to the presidency) was kind of forced upon him as a running mate. Most of the literature presented seems to suggest that the imperialistic policies that he chose were not of his own, but forced once again upon him. First time US tricked the nation into war. Roosevelt would repeat this of course. :x The whole anarchist thing has been bothering me since the trickery surrounding seattle occurred, it seems their playbook lacks originality. :P I am looking for info such as the relationship between the prez and vp, what policies were implemented as soon as roosevelt was sworn. Anything concerning banking policy, of course, though I think I have gone through as much as I possibly can. This period of time was big for the hawks, they had power solidified at that point with taft following and then the inevitable mr woodrow and we all know what was created then. :roll:
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Re: Money the Master

Unread postby BlisteredWhippet » Thu 07 Dec 2006, 04:56:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Polemic', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR', '
')Sorry, I just don't buy the "Almighty Central Bankers" line of argument.


Because bankers don't have money, and money doesn't buy influence over politicians?


I don't buy it either. Money Masters is hysterical fiction.

Read it and weep my gullible friends. (no offense to dude named "mmasters"... :lol: )

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Re: Money the Master

Unread postby NEOPO » Thu 07 Dec 2006, 08:26:58

Oh please - you can do better then that no?

Dr. Edward Flaherty

You can go ask just about any IRS agent if there is a law that requires us to pay federal income taxes and they will say yes.

While you are at it ask an economist how much oil is left as I am sure they "know" because that is who the news media picks to tell us so...........pffft!!

Should I be surprised by the level of intellect encountered here?
I really shouldnt should I ? but yes...sadly...I am.
For some reason I want to believe that people who are smart enough to overcome all the white noise bullshit and realize the truth about PEAK OIL could also come to grips with other "big" issues yet that is simply not to be.........

Bravo to any of you brave enough to move forward on these issues.
Bravo for retaining an open mind in such a close minded world.
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Re: Money the Master

Unread postby mmasters » Thu 07 Dec 2006, 14:03:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BlisteredWhippet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Polemic', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR', '
')Sorry, I just don't buy the "Almighty Central Bankers" line of argument.


Because bankers don't have money, and money doesn't buy influence over politicians?


I don't buy it either. Money Masters is hysterical fiction.

Read it and weep my gullible friends. (no offense to dude named "mmasters"... :lol: )

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Nobody is making the silly arguements your cite is refuting.

Namely that the fed is directly controlled by foreigners. That the NY fed controls the system (though it did before the great depression whereafter the board of governors was appointed). And that the profits are directed to foreign owners.

These allegations are BS and easy to refute, your cite is meant to diffuse the conspiracy angle and discourage people from further research. Your post serves as evidence on how effective these tactics can be.
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Re: Money the Master

Unread postby BlisteredWhippet » Thu 07 Dec 2006, 16:18:12

Very well, mmasters. I will review the google link to refresh my memory and come back with my objections.

Its been a long time since I saw the (grainy) VHS version, perhaps this version is different.
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Re: Money the Master

Unread postby BlisteredWhippet » Thu 07 Dec 2006, 16:41:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'O')h please - you can do better then that no?

Dr. Edward Flaherty

You can go ask just about any IRS agent if there is a law that requires us to pay federal income taxes and they will say yes.

While you are at it ask an economist how much oil is left as I am sure they "know" because that is who the news media picks to tell us so...........pffft!!

Should I be surprised by the level of intellect encountered here?
I really shouldnt should I ? but yes...sadly...I am.
For some reason I want to believe that people who are smart enough to overcome all the white noise bullshit and realize the truth about PEAK OIL could also come to grips with other "big" issues yet that is simply not to be.........

Bravo to any of you brave enough to move forward on these issues.
Bravo for retaining an open mind in such a close minded world.


There were specific aspects of the mmasters theory that I thought were flimsy. But I agree with Dr. Flaherty's initial conclusion:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')It does not appear that the New York Federal Reserve Bank is owned, either directly or indirectly, by foreigners. Neither Mullins nor Kah provided verifiable sources for their allegations, nor did their mysterious sources agree on exactly who owns the New York Federal Reserve Bank. Moreover, their central assumption that control of the New York Federal Reserve is the same as control of the whole System is wrong and demonstrates a lack of understanding of the System's basic organizational structure. The profits of the Federal Reserve System, again contrary to the assertion of Kah and Schauf, are funneled back to the federal government, not to an "international banking elite." If the U.S. central bank is in the grip of a banking conspiracy, then Mullins and Kah have certainly not uncovered it.


I do believe that "real" money masters control large parts of the economy. For instance, Gates, Buffet and Allen all converted a ton of stocks into cash this week, just before employment numbers come out on Friday. Do they know something we don't?

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/294986_insiderstocksale07.html

And why isn't this in the economic forum where it belongs?
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Re: Money the Master

Unread postby NEOPO » Thu 07 Dec 2006, 23:01:24

I put most of my threads in the open forum so as not to offend anyone who wouldnt consider this subject as economics.
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Re: Money the Master

Unread postby skiwi » Fri 08 Dec 2006, 03:37:16

Well here's a new angle that I'd only post in the open forum :)

matthew delooze blogspot

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ith gold being accepted as the most powerful thing in this world it is obviously going to be sought after. So consider the situation if you were a negative alien race that knew all about the spiritual laws of creation and knew how to manipulate the worlds reality through using the mass consciousness. If you wanted to colonise the earth all you would have to do is create the most powerful and potent element and get control of it. In our case we have created gold. It would then be a piece of cake for them to con the human race into collecting all the gold for them.
Indeed we do just that.

They know the masses living in this world can create their own reality through mass thought. If the alien race had already manipulated the mass consciousness of human race, and duped them into selecting gold as the divine element in the first place, the earth would be like one massive gold mine with unlimited amounts of direct and indirect miners to work it. Human slaves.

If you wanted to rule this world covertly and gold was the most powerful element then all you would need to do was control the gold or put a few 'trusted' agents in place to farm it and store it for you. These agents must have direct contact with the alien beings, the 4th dimension, and the actual means to do so and visa versa. Is monatomic gold used to raise spiritual awareness in the human body in 5 sense form? Have we created the most powerful thing on Earth (Gold) through manipulation of the mass consciouness only for it to be taken from us and used against us ?
Yes?
Nice one Mr Serpent.


Fascinating book he wrote, The Stars Are Falling - Reasons to believe we are Enslaved by the Serpent

Over the top of the heads of most people here though :lol:
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