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How many American companies are foreign-owned?

Unread postby TheDude » Sat 11 Nov 2006, 17:29:44

Thom Hartmann (radio) rattled off a list, he couldn't finish it before having to take a commercial break for companies like Murk (sp?) and Apple; do we still own them?
List included Random House (his publisher for his book Last Hours of Ancient Sunlight, which is about PO, BTW), Chrysler, ITT, Allied Signal Braking, Simon & Schuster, Farmer's Insurance, John Hancock insurance, Trans America Group Ins (irony!). Geezus. How many other properties are owned by aliens? What are the percentages?
I tried to look this up online and strangely many of the links were to outmoded data. Same thing happened once when I tried to confirm Michael Moore's tidbit about the Saudis owning $9 billion in US assets.
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Re: How many American companies are foreign-owned?

Unread postby Denny » Sat 11 Nov 2006, 19:18:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', 'T')hom Hartmann (radio) How many other properties are owned by aliens?


I always get a laugh about that term, "aliens". I used to be a student in th U.S. and had to register each February as a resident alien.

Let's not forget that this phenomenom is world wide. Just in the past six months, we in Canada have seen three massive resource companies bought up by foreign interests. International Nickel was bought by a Brazilian company, and Falconbridge and Noranda merged and then were bought up by a Swiss company.

I guess it is just globalization. I am pretty sure if you checked the figures, you'd find in dollar terms that U.S. firms have bought up as much outside as have been bought up by foreigners inside the U.S. Same thing in Canada.

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Re: How many American companies are foreign-owned?

Unread postby NEOPO » Sat 11 Nov 2006, 20:07:23

new world disorder...welcome ;-)
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Re: How many American companies are foreign-owned?

Unread postby joewp » Mon 13 Nov 2006, 02:13:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', 'T')hom Hartmann (radio) rattled off a list, he couldn't finish it before having to take a commercial break for companies like Murk (sp?) and Apple; do we still own them?


What do you mean "we"? If you have some shares in those companies, then yeah, you own part of them. If you don't, not no, you don't own them and never did, no matter what the nationality of the shareholders. Steve Jobs could own 100% of Apple, it doesn't put any money in your pocket just because he's American. If he has a majority of the shares or Saudi Arabia does means very little to you or anyone.

NEOPO mentioned "new world order". It's actually pretty old. Money doesn't care about politics or countries, just making more money where ever it can. Generally speaking, "we" aren't involved just because we're a certain nationality or not. It doesn't even help. :cry:
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Re: How many American companies are foreign-owned?

Unread postby Alpaca » Tue 14 Nov 2006, 00:15:36

Thom Hartmann wrote an article for Common Dreams regarding this shortly after the Dubuai port deal almost went through, and you should be able to find it there (or @ his web page). The stats he referenced are from another site called economyincrisis.org I think.

The argument is not just that foreign ownership is bad because of the loss of jobs, but that these companies aren't paying taxes in the U.S (despite their use of our infrastructure and 'commons') which does directly affect the rest of us in that we're forced to contribute more. It's bad enough that individuals pay roughly 33% of our income to Uncle Sam while corporations pay about 15%, but when they pay 0%, it really sucks.
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Re: How many American companies are foreign-owned?

Unread postby rogerhb » Tue 14 Nov 2006, 03:27:16

Surely, from a US perspective it would be zero. If it is foreign owned, it would no longer be American.

Similarly, how many Americans are foreigners?
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Re: How many American companies are foreign-owned?

Unread postby Tyler_JC » Tue 14 Nov 2006, 19:24:07

I don't think the question should be "American-owned" or "foreign-owned".

Is a Toyota Camery an import?

What about a Chevy Trailblazer?

I'll bet that most people would call the Camery an "import" and the Chevy a "domestic".

If you said that, you would be incorrect. More of the Camery is manufactored in America than the Chevy. More of the parts for the Camery are American than for the Chevy.

Globalization hasn't just picked up industry and thrown it into other countries, it has intergrated industry across national borders.

My watch says it was made in Japan. But parts came from Korea and Japan. It came to this country in a Greek ship. The factory was financed through a British bank with an American lawyer negotiating the contract. The factory machinary was imported from Germany and Switzerland on an Italian ship... (or whatever actually, happened, who knows?)

I suggest that everyone go out and buy a copy of Thomas Friedman's book "The World Is Flat".

As for someone's comment about the Saudis...they own far more than 9 billion in US assets. They sell us a billion barrels of oil a year. $60 a barrel. Do the math.
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Re: How many American companies are foreign-owned?

Unread postby Shadizar » Thu 16 Nov 2006, 01:43:50

I would suggest that everyone realize what benefits have come from this globalization. Many "U.S." corporations are doing very well according to their balance sheets (and stocks).

Unfortunately that manufacturing has gone overseas. The growth of U.S. corporations have come from "cost reduction." Which means job loss (minus massive goverment and services jobs). As it applies to the U.S.

This basically means that the wages of U.S. workers has gone down. In the globalized market that is unavoidable.

Tie that to inflation and we are in a downward spiral. We simply are not competative in many goods within the global economic system.

Economic theory itself agrees. We must decline as other countries advance. That is what we are seeing today. Equalization....or in other words Socialism.

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