[Lokutus]

Put on your tinfoilhats, boys and grrls.

More allegations of Voter Fraud–and guess which party it favors.

In Texas-

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'E')arly voting runs through Friday, November 3rd.

KFDM continues to get complaints from Jefferson County voters who say the electronic voting machines are not registering their votes correctly.
Friday night, KFDM reported about people who had cast straight Democratic ticket ballots, but the touch-screen machines indicated they had voted a straight Republican ticket.

Some of those voters including Lamar University professor, Dr. Bruce Drury, believe the problem is a programming error.

Saturday, KFDM spoke to another voter who says it's not just happening with straight ticket voting, he says it's happening on individual races as well, Jerry Stopher told us when he voted for a Democrat, the Republican's name was highlighted.

[dbruning]

"believe the problem is a programming error. "

You know, sometimes the software IS to blame.

In this case, my dollar would be on it's performing EXACTLY to specifications.

How hard would it be to put statistics analysis into it to determine exactly how many votes it needs to "incorrectly record" in order for the predetermined winner to win?

Didn't think electronic voting was good when I first heard about it, and still don't. Just makes it even easier to steal an election

[dissimulo]

Anything is possible, but I am more prepared to believe in user error.

Have you ever watched people use those self-checkout machines at the grocery store? Some people are utterly hapless working with technology. It is just a touch-screen and a scale, but people repeatedly pick the wrong options, carelessly touch the wrong parts of the screen, lean on the scale, etc. Ever watched someone over the age of 80 use an ATM?

I haven't watched people use the voting machines, but I'll wager there are a lot of people who are physically challenged when it comes to pressing small buttons on a screen, intimidated by technology and therefore more prone to mistake, or just plain dumb.

If you were going to rig the machines, you would not rig them to reveal to the voter that the wrong choices were used. You would display the choices the voter made, but record different choices.

[Lokutus]

Here's what fascinates me about the upcoming election.

The recent scandals (PedoGate & JesusGate) have really hurt the Grand Old Preverts, with poll after poll showing their candidates trailing opponents by a substantial margin in key races.

Now the prudent man might consider not employing the Deibold card in this situation because a GOP victory under the circumstances would only draw further suspicion about the Diebold machines. (Recall Ohio in 2004, where the results didn't match up with the exit polling data.)

But can the GOP exercise prudence and choose to not subvert the election this time because of what the polls indicate?

Could the GOP do so at this late date even if it wanted to? Maybe there's not enough time left to replace the funny code with legit code?

I'd love to see a clear GOP victory on the 7th despite the polling data. All hell would break loose.

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lokutus', '.')..I'd love to see a clear GOP victory on the 7th despite the polling data. All hell would break loose.

[NEOPO]

Security Analysis of the Diebold AccuVote-TS Voting Machine

Vote Fraud, New Film: Invisible Ballot

Rigged USA Elections Exposed

Stolen Election 2004

How To Steal An Election

Videos for those who may be unaware....

Yeah Kerry wasnt a choice in 04' yet they kept the current in anyways.....
Will a landslide republican victory piss enough people off?
I think it will only confirm suspicions but not incite riots

[Zardoz]

Whoa! Look at this:

Hackable Democracy?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f the primaries and test runs of the machines are to be any indication, Election Day could be teetering on the edge of disaster.

"I think it's going to be a train wreck," said Freddie Oakley, an election supervisor near Sacramento, Calif.

Oakley was stunned when she tested her county's new electronic voting machines and the audio instructions for the visually impaired came out in Vietnamese.

[cynicalheretic]

What 2008 election? Why, are we voting? I though George would stay in indefintly and keep us safe from democracy... oops I mean terrorist.

[Denny]

It seems the fears start when the only record made is electronic. Why would't the U.S. retain the mechainical sytem, in which the ballot goes into a platen and the voter activates buttons to punch the ballot?

There is nothign wrong with that concept, just the execution was flawed in 2000 with the "butterfly" ballot which was confusing, and improper ballot punching (which was done manually) leaving dimples instead of holes or dangling shads which confused the counting equipment .

I don't blame people for being fearful when there is no hard record of ballots cast. It will always leave the door of fear open that programming is in error or manipulated. Seeing the physical holes in the ballot beside the candidate's name is a citizen's assurance that the system is accountable. There always needs to be the ability to conduct a recount.

And, just why is it that the U.S.A., a sophisticated country, a mature democracy, seems to be having these issues in the first place? You do not hear about this kind of thing in other first world countries.

[Dreamtwister]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Denny', 'Y')ou do not hear about this kind of thing in other first world countries.

[AgentR]

Don't worry, they'll just chalk it up to our superior get out the vote effort.

[AgentR]

Umm, Denny, the only reason we heard about the Butterfly ballot problem is because it was so close in Florida that the known error rate exceeded the margin of victory.

If the vote for something important in Texas had been that close in the same period; the same problem would have arisen.

Punchcards are bad. Electronic voting is bad.

Bubble-in scanned ballots are good, but are expensive and not multicultural enough. They do however, have an extremely low error rate.

In places where there are multiple parties being elected to a parliament using proportional representation, the error rates on the punch cards are meaningless.

[Denny]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR', '
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Punchcards are bad. Electronic voting is bad.

[Zardoz]

The Diebold farce continues to get more and more coverage in the media:

E-VOTING GROWS, CONCERNS REMAIN

[Lokutus]

Stealing the midterm elections and the power of myth
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')ct 25, 2006, 00:25

“The masses have never thirsted after truth. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim.” --Gustave Le Bon, ”The Crowd”

Karl Rove is not Harry Houdini. He can’t change the fact that the Democrats could take up to 40 seats in the House and that the Republicans may lose the Senate as well. He can’t change the national polling-data which favors the Democrats by a considerable margin, or the exit polling which is predicted to show substantial Democratic gains, too. And, there’s nothing Rove can do to stop the perception that the elections are now expected to be a Democratic landslide extending from sea to shining sea. The only thing that Rove can do to win the midterms is to purge the voting roles in key states and crank up the voting machines to “full-tilt.”

But even that won’t be enough this time.

The problem with that strategy is that it will only increase the suspicion that the elections have been rigged. Given the current projections, any massive voter tampering is likely to trigger a public outcry that will inevitably result in an investigation. That’s not what Rove or anyone else on the Bush team wants.

So what is Rove supposed to do?

[AgentR]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')o what is Rove supposed to do

[NEOPO]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')o what is Rove supposed to do