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Who really needs to apologize to our troops?

Unread postby Lokutus » Thu 02 Nov 2006, 00:59:12

From Crooks & Liars:

Bush Shows His True Colors Video


AWOL Boy really respects the fallen. 2815 and counting. Plus hundreds of thousands of Iraqiis.
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Re: Who really needs to apologize to our troops?

Unread postby gego » Thu 02 Nov 2006, 01:03:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lokutus', '[')url=http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/11/01/who-should-apologize/]From Crooks & Liars:[/url]

Bush Shows His True Colors Video


AWOL Boy really respects the fallen. 2815 and counting. Plus hundreds of thousands of Iraqiis.


What does it matter? Is not George Bush helping planet earth by removing excess population? Who gives a fart, other than those who die leave behind, and those with some sense of morality?
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Re: Who really needs to apologize to our troops?

Unread postby Lokutus » Thu 02 Nov 2006, 01:11:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gego', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lokutus', '[')url=http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/11/01/who-should-apologize/]From Crooks & Liars:[/url]

Bush Shows His True Colors Video


AWOL Boy really respects the fallen. 2815 and counting. Plus hundreds of thousands of Iraqiis.


What does it matter? Is not George Bush helping planet earth by removing excess population? Who gives a fart, other than those who die leave behind, and those with some sense of morality?


It matters because there are enough morons in this country to keep the Grand Old Perverts in control on the 7th. They will vote a straight GOP ticket partly because they think Bush really respects the military.

Doh!
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Re: Who really needs to apologize to our troops?

Unread postby gego » Thu 02 Nov 2006, 01:18:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lokutus', '
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It matters because there are enough morons in this country to keep the Grand Old Perverts in control on the 7th. They will vote a straight GOP ticket partly because they think Bush really respects the military.

Doh!


So here is where you and I part company. You clearly are anti Republican and somehow think that if you vote in the Democrats something will change. Clearly you favor Democrats, but do not grasp that they are the same as the Republicans.

Your continued voting for either of the two major parties identifies you as a proponent of this government, hence an enemy to freedom, hence a fuckup.
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Re: Who really needs to apologize to our troops?

Unread postby NEOPO » Thu 02 Nov 2006, 01:37:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gego', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lokutus', '[')url=http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/11/01/who-should-apologize/]From Crooks & Liars:[/url]

Bush Shows His True Colors Video


AWOL Boy really respects the fallen. 2815 and counting. Plus hundreds of thousands of Iraqiis.


What does it matter? Is not George Bush helping planet earth by removing excess population? Who gives a fart, other than those who die leave behind, and those with some sense of morality?


A very telling comment.
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Re: Who really needs to apologize to our troops?

Unread postby Zardoz » Thu 02 Nov 2006, 01:40:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gego', '.')..You clearly are anti Republican and somehow think that if you vote in the Democrats something will change.

Do you really believe that if the 2000 election had not been stolen, and Al Gore had been president for the last six years, that things would be the same in this country?

Do you actually believe that?
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Re: Who really needs to apologize to our troops?

Unread postby Lokutus » Thu 02 Nov 2006, 01:52:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gego', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lokutus', '
')
It matters because there are enough morons in this country to keep the Grand Old Perverts in control on the 7th. They will vote a straight GOP ticket partly because they think Bush really respects the military.

Doh!


So here is where you and I part company. You clearly are anti Republican and somehow think that if you vote in the Democrats something will change. Clearly you favor Democrats, but do not grasp that they are the same as the Republicans.

Your continued voting for either of the two major parties identifies you as a proponent of this government, hence an enemy to freedom, hence a fuckup.


I'm not pro Democrat. I'm anti-Neocon.
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Re: Who really needs to apologize to our troops?

Unread postby duke3522 » Thu 02 Nov 2006, 02:07:51

gego wrote
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')o here is where you and I part company. You clearly are anti Republican and somehow think that if you vote in the Democrats something will change. Clearly you favor Democrats, but do not grasp that they are the same as the Republicans.


This makes no sense. We should vote to keep in place politicians that have a proven track record of one political blunder after another, and against a group of politicians that most likely will have one political blunder after the other. I think I’ll take my chances with the new guys. Maybe we’ll get lucky.

Yes, I see no chance for any improvement if the Dems take the House. But perhaps another party having investigative powers will a least slow the out right looting of the US Treasury. Iraq, the Department of Homeland Security, Katrina Relief, have all been cash cows to government contracting firms. As news of late has shown, little or no supervision has been put in place to monitor the hundreds of billions of dollars simply thrown at these projects.

The scandal that is coming in Federal Government Contracting will be on the scale of the S&L scandal of the late ‘80s. People need to go to jail for this one.
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Re: Who really needs to apologize to our troops?

Unread postby gego » Thu 02 Nov 2006, 02:19:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gego', '.')..You clearly are anti Republican and somehow think that if you vote in the Democrats something will change.

Do you really believe that if the 2000 election had not been stolen, and Al Gore had been president for the last six years, that things would be the same in this country?

Do you actually believe that?


What I actually believe that anyone that thinks there is a difference between Republicans and Democrats has half a brain to match his half ass.

The repression against which you would be railing would be coming from a different ruler and would be of a different nature, had King George not been installed for the last six years.

It is the voters who are the enemies of freedom more so than those for whom they vote.
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Re: Who really needs to apologize to our troops?

Unread postby gego » Thu 02 Nov 2006, 02:31:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lokutus', '
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I'm not pro Democrat. I'm anti-Neocon.


I am anit-Neocon also. I am just not unaware as some, prehaps present company included, to think that Democrats are any different or that they will not screw me in just a different way.

You remind me of the monkey trap, where a coconut is hollowed out with a hole just big enough for a monkey to put in his hand and grasp the food placed inside. Once he grasp the food, his fist will not fit through the hole and as his captor approached he is frantic trying to escape, but is unable to release his treasure and remove his hand. The end result is that he is clubbed on the head and served for that nights dinner.

You are no different, because you hold on to that little treasure that is promised from the politician you favor, and you also will be clubbed on the head because you are not willing to give up what little you think you hold in favor of true freedom. You really deserve your enslavement because of you stupidity.
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Re: Who really needs to apologize to our troops?

Unread postby gego » Thu 02 Nov 2006, 02:38:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('duke3522', '[')b]gego wrote
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')o here is where you and I part company. You clearly are anti Republican and somehow think that if you vote in the Democrats something will change. Clearly you favor Democrats, but do not grasp that they are the same as the Republicans.


This makes no sense. We should vote to keep in place politicians that have a proven track record of one political blunder after another, and against a group of politicians that most likely will have one political blunder after the other. I think I’ll take my chances with the new guys. Maybe we’ll get lucky.

Yes, I see no chance for any improvement if the Dems take the House. But perhaps another party having investigative powers will a least slow the out right looting of the US Treasury. Iraq, the Department of Homeland Security, Katrina Relief, have all been cash cows to government contracting firms. As news of late has shown, little or no supervision has been put in place to monitor the hundreds of billions of dollars simply thrown at these projects.

The scandal that is coming in Federal Government Contracting will be on the scale of the S&L scandal of the late ‘80s. People need to go to jail for this one.


It is hard to respond to another dumb fuck on this site. I did not say that we should keep the same people in power. You must have attended a government school where you learned to read.

I oppose both the Republicans and the Democrats, and all other rulers for that matter.

Why would you vote for an alternative set of people who promise to rule your life? Why not refuse to vote for anyone? What do you think would happen if nobody turned up at the polls?

If you are out here voting for either Democrats or Republicans you are partly responsible for the current state of affairs, and I consider you to be just another dumb ass who is getting what he has chosen.
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Re: Who really needs to apologize to our troops?

Unread postby Wednesday » Thu 02 Nov 2006, 02:44:15

Re: Who really needs to apologize to our troops?

We, the voters.
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Re: Who really needs to apologize to our troops?

Unread postby Lokutus » Thu 02 Nov 2006, 03:49:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gego', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lokutus', '
')
I'm not pro Democrat. I'm anti-Neocon.


I am anit-Neocon also. I am just not unaware as some, prehaps present company included, to think that Democrats are any different or that they will not screw me in just a different way.

You remind me of the monkey trap, where a coconut is hollowed out with a hole just big enough for a monkey to put in his hand and grasp the food placed inside. Once he grasp the food, his fist will not fit through the hole and as his captor approached he is frantic trying to escape, but is unable to release his treasure and remove his hand. The end result is that he is clubbed on the head and served for that nights dinner.

You are no different, because you hold on to that little treasure that is promised from the politician you favor, and you also will be clubbed on the head because you are not willing to give up what little you think you hold in favor of true freedom. You really deserve your enslavement because of you stupidity.


If you persist in responding in this acrimonious tone you will drive everyone off peakoil.com.

Think about about it.

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Re: Who really needs to apologize to our troops?

Unread postby gego » Thu 02 Nov 2006, 04:03:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lokutus', '
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If you persist in responding in this acrimonious tone you will drive everyone off peakoil.com.

Think about about it.

Will you enjoy this forum as much if you become its sole member?


Is that a threat or a promise. Ha! What a load of crap. I never knew that I was so powerful that I could drive away anyone. Maybe you are just feeling weak.

What is the problem, don't like what I said? I don't own this site, and as matter of fact there is an ignore button that you could use if my confrontations are so offensive to you.

Actually, the level of my venom is in relationship to the level that you have offended my sensibility, so maybe you should not make such offensive posts and we could all be more pleasant.
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Re: Who really needs to apologize to our troops?

Unread postby seldom_seen » Thu 02 Nov 2006, 04:20:27

gego speaketh the truth.

A good time to visit what dmitry orlov had to say:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Soviet Union had a single, entrenched, systemically corrupt political party, which held a monopoly on power. The U.S. has two entrenched, systemically corrupt political parties, whose positions are often indistinguishable, and which together hold a monopoly on power. In either case, there is, or was, a single governing elite, but in the United States it organized itself into opposing teams to make its stranglehold on power seem more sportsmanlike.

In the U.S., there is an industry of political commentators and pundits, which is devoted to inflaming political passions, as much as possible, and especially before elections. This is similar to what sports writers and commentators do, to draw attention to their game. It seems that the main force behind political discourse in the U.S. is boredom: one could talk about the weather, one's job, one's mortgage and how it relates to current and projected property values, cars and the traffic situation, sports, and, far behind sports, politics.

Although people often bemoan political apathy as if it were a grave social ill, it seems to me that this is just as it should be. Why should essentially powerless people want to engage in a humiliating farce designed to demonstrate the legitimacy of those who wield the power? In Soviet-era Russia, intelligent people did their best to ignore the Communists: paying attention to them, whether through criticism or praise, would only serve to give them comfort and encouragement, making them feel as if they mattered. Why should Americans want to act any differently with regard to the Republicans and the Democrats? For love of donkeys and elephants?
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Re: Who really needs to apologize to our troops?

Unread postby Lokutus » Thu 02 Nov 2006, 04:20:55

I have a delicate constitution which makes me unsuited for the rough and tumble action on most forums.
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Re: Who really needs to apologize to our troops?

Unread postby gego » Thu 02 Nov 2006, 04:46:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lokutus', 'I') have a delicate constitution which makes me unsuited for the rough and tumble action on most forums.


Look man. If you had snot hanging out of your nose and everyone ignored it, and let you walk around looking like a jerk, would you consider them your friends.

If I don't like what you say, then I tell you in my own style and I figure if I am wrong, then you will tell me right back and either eventually our minds will meet, or we will recognize that we won't agree and we just drop the issue.

If I tell you I think your stupid, or a turd I say it because I figure you are my equal and will just figure it is part of the banter. You should consider that a compliment because, I am a very strong, successful, cool person, much loved by my family and friends (maybe not all my internet "friends").

Whenever people are saying what is in their minds, it is out there for contention. None of our minds work perfectly. There are lots of inconsistencies and delusions. I personally would rather be confronted when I put out a thought because it helps me keep my thinking straight. And yes, it is unsettling to readjust thinking, but it is better than walking around with a snotty though hanging out my nose. I thought that is one of the reasons why people like to express ideas and bump up against other good minds for conformation or correction. If people thought you had a bad mind, then they would ignore you.

So get over it, consider confrontation a challenge, and have some fun exercising you intellect.

Geesh.
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Re: Who really needs to apologize to our troops?

Unread postby sciencegirl » Thu 02 Nov 2006, 10:12:14

No body needs to aplogize to our troops, they are idiots, tools, and murdering killers, killing is wrong and even if government says it is alright, it is still wrong. We should leave the troops right where they are and abandon them completly.

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Unread postby Zardoz » Thu 02 Nov 2006, 10:19:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gego', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lokutus', '.')..have some fun exercising your intellect...

So name-calling is "exercising intellect"?

Exercise yours. Describe your ideal no-voting society. Please explain in detail how that would work. You've done a lot of venom-spewing, but I can't seem to find anything in your posts about what sort of alternative to our current tattered, bedraggled system you would suggest.

Also, please also explain how things would not be very different if PNAC-inspired Neocons had remained on the fringes, with no real power, for the last six years.
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Unread postby Zardoz » Thu 02 Nov 2006, 10:23:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sciencegirl', 'N')o body needs to aplogize to our troops, they are idiots, tools, and murdering killers, killing is wrong and even if government says it is alright, it is still wrong. We should leave the troops right where they are and abandon them completly.

I support communism, aye comrades. Who wants to read the communist manifesto with me ?

So, communist regimes don't have troops? They don't go to war? Rivers of blood have not been spilled by the armies of communist regimes?

Thank you for your input. You may now return to wherever you came from.
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