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Darkside of the looking glass

Postby skiwi » Tue 31 Oct 2006, 06:30:24

Darkside of the looking glass

Fascinating audio slide show on the stock market that even financial dummies like me should find interesting
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Re: Darkside of the looking glass

Postby Jack » Tue 31 Oct 2006, 09:10:01

I've only gotten through the first 30 slides...but this seems interesting. Fascinating, in fact.
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Re: Darkside of the looking glass

Postby NEOPO » Tue 31 Oct 2006, 17:12:39

Yes excellent - about half way through now.

Seems we have been failing strategically for quite a while now.

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Re: Darkside of the looking glass

Postby skiwi » Tue 31 Oct 2006, 18:05:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'S')eems we have been failing strategically for quite a while now.


Guess they've been working on it at least from the mid 1800's
following Lincoln's issuing of his own currency


Only ten minutes this time but turn the sound down initially till you find whether the music's to your taste or not.

Federal Reserve

An editorial in the London Times revealed the bankers attitude at the time...
"If this mischievous financial policy, which has it's origin in North America, shall become endurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish it's own money without cost.

It will pay off debt and be without debt.
It will have all the money necessary to carry on it's commerce.
It will be prosperous without precedent in the history of the world.

The brains and wealth of all countries will go to North America.
That country must be destroyed or it will destroy every monarchy on the globe"
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Re: Darkside of the looking glass

Postby skiwi » Tue 31 Oct 2006, 18:06:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'S')eems we have been failing strategically for quite a while now.


Guess they've been working on it at least from the mid 1800's
following Lincoln's issuing of his own currency


Only ten minutes this time but turn the sound down initially till you find whether the music's to your taste or not.

Federal Reserve

An editorial in the London Times revealed the bankers attitude at the time...
"If this mischievous financial policy, which has it's origin in North America,
shall become endurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish
it's own money without cost.

It will pay off debt and be without debt.
It will have all the money necessary to carry on it's commerce.
It will be prosperous without precedent in the history of the world.

The brains and wealth of all countries will go to North America.
That country must be destroyed or it will destroy every monarchy on the globe"
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Re: Darkside of the looking glass

Postby skiwi » Tue 31 Oct 2006, 18:14:36

Double post

But while I'm at it here's the google video of the Norman Dodd interview
from 1982 regarding the tax exempt organisations that Monte references in his book Madmen at the Helm
for those like me that have no spare time to read the transcript but can listen to it

Norman Dodd Interview
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Re: Darkside of the looking glass

Postby grink1tt3n » Tue 31 Oct 2006, 18:32:32

http://www.dealbreaker.com/2006/10/archeus_undone_by_accounting_a.php

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')nother week, another hedge fund goes down. This time it’s a child of Salomon Brothers—Archeus, run by Gary K. Kilberg and Peter G. Hirsch. The official word is that whoever was running the books at the Manhattan based hedge fund screwed up, which prompted redemptions. Of course, having its main fund down almost 2% this year probably didn’t help.

The bottom line? Archeus went from $3 billion under management last year to around $700 million today. And everything’s getting redeemed back to investors at the end of the year.


And from NYT:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')rcheus Capital, a highflying hedge fund that just a year ago had assets of $3 billion, told its investors yesterday that it would close.

The closing of the fund, which was founded and run by two former bond traders from Salomon Brothers, highlights how sensitive hedge fund investors have become to weak performance after last month’s blow-up of Amaranth Advisors. Amaranth is shutting down after a series of bad bets on natural gas.


First Amaranth, now Archeus, who's next?
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Re: Darkside of the looking glass

Postby Daculling » Tue 31 Oct 2006, 19:35:57

Excellent. SEC knows there is a bomb just sitting there...

That guy's voice sounds like Neopo's :)
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Re: Darkside of the looking glass

Postby NEOPO » Tue 31 Oct 2006, 19:47:38

Dac - if its a bomb then they built it and will light the fuse when they want to PULL IT....
My voice sounds that bad does it? hahahah
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Re: Darkside of the looking glass

Postby Daculling » Tue 31 Oct 2006, 20:11:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'D')ac - if its a bomb then they built it and will light the fuse when they want to PULL IT....
My voice sounds that bad does it? hahahah


I think they will try to hide it and let itself work out over time but I barely understand the concept... still learning.

Record yourself and listen... you alone don't sound bad, everyone does. Your voice sounds different when it's not coming from your head.
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Re: Darkside of the looking glass

Postby NEOPO » Wed 01 Nov 2006, 00:18:49

Yes - in my head I am very sophisticated and distinguished but on tape just another midwestern redneck ;-)

Ok I have two words "financial squibs"!

These people have america by the throat and the balls.

Dispersed cost and concentrated benefit indeed.

These single digit billion $ babies are small change yet if you wanted total control - absolutely neccessary.

This whole thing could be on its ass at a speed that defies the laws of economic physics!!

Sugar!!!!
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Re: Darkside of the looking glass

Postby eric_b » Wed 01 Nov 2006, 05:10:12

That was excellent, though after listening to it I need a drink.

It's systemic. This system is purposely setup to make these types of frauds possible. No wonder there's little transparency.

I wonder if an addition to profit taking, other agendas could be satisfied, such as destroying upstart companies trying to bring new technologies to market that may threaten existing players the status quo, etc.
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Re: Darkside of the looking glass

Postby MD » Wed 01 Nov 2006, 05:14:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'j')ust another midwestern redneck ;-)



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Re: Darkside of the looking glass

Postby MD » Wed 01 Nov 2006, 05:17:53

Presented like a very competent college professor on a lecture, which adds credibility, which adds fear.
Well reasoned, with references, which adds credibility, which adds fear.

enough to make my economic lay-persons mind go "oh f**K!"

any credible voices out there care to debunk this guy please?

say it ain't so?
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Re: Darkside of the looking glass

Postby MD » Wed 01 Nov 2006, 05:34:46

I would like to see financialsense take a peek at this topic. I want a second opinion from a credible source.

This is one more load on the already overburdened trading system. The damn house of cards is looking more fragile by the day.
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Re: Darkside of the looking glass

Postby MrBill » Wed 01 Nov 2006, 05:35:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', 'P')resented like a very competent college professor on a lecture, which adds credibility, which adds fear.
Well reasoned, with references, which adds credibility, which adds fear.

enough to make my economic lay-persons mind go "oh f**K!"

any credible voices out there care to debunk this guy please?

say it ain't so?


I would love to oblige you, but so far I have not been able to download this puppy? My browser settings will not support ActiveX or something? Will have to try my computer at home with no firewall and see if it helps?
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Re: Darkside of the looking glass

Postby MD » Wed 01 Nov 2006, 05:41:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBill', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', 'P')resented like a very competent college professor on a lecture, which adds credibility, which adds fear.
Well reasoned, with references, which adds credibility, which adds fear.

enough to make my economic lay-persons mind go "oh f**K!"

any credible voices out there care to debunk this guy please?

say it ain't so?


I would love to oblige you, but so far I have not been able to download this puppy? My browser or what? Will have to try my computer at home with no firewall and see if it helps?


It's contained in a browser slide viewer named:
"Articulate powered presentation"

It came up in my IE browser just fine. I have never seen this particular package before. hope that helps?
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Re: Darkside of the looking glass

Postby joewp » Wed 01 Nov 2006, 18:03:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', 'P')resented like a very competent college professor on a lecture, which adds credibility, which adds fear.
Well reasoned, with references, which adds credibility, which adds fear.

enough to make my economic lay-persons mind go "oh f**K!"

any credible voices out there care to debunk this guy please?

say it ain't so?


Here's a law firm that corroborates some of the claims made.
A letter from the US Chamber of Commerce to the SEC commenting on proposed changes that would eliminate grandfathering the FTDs.
And a Goolge site search of the SEC for "failure to deliver".

I think he's on to something. The SEC still isn't coming clean on this.
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Re: Darkside of the looking glass

Postby gnm » Wed 01 Nov 2006, 18:14:23

Hmmm is it possible to download this somehow? In order to pass it around...

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Re: Darkside of the looking glass

Postby NEOPO » Wed 01 Nov 2006, 18:25:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'j')ust another midwestern redneck ;-)



Bro!!


sup man! ;-)

did you watch those videos about the federal reserve?
I have read it all before yet after maybe 20 hours of various video perspective I am convinced that if the market crashes then "they" chose to "pull it".
I think they are waiting for social security money to get dumped into the system before pulling the plug yet that could just be my own optomism ;-)

This is just an example of one spoke on the big wheel.
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