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Re: Pentagon to counter 'inaccurate' news

Postby mattduke » Tue 31 Oct 2006, 20:17:23

Pentagon to counter accurate news.
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Re: Pentagon to counter 'inaccurate' news

Postby NEOPO » Tue 31 Oct 2006, 20:24:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'T')he propaganda business is good.......


Indeed.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')o agentr did you get a pay raise through all of this?


I won't know till next spring. :-D

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')o you like your masters feel comfortable that this time you have successfully domesticated the species?


No domestication is required. As long as most of them are desperate to hold on to a house and car, its all good.


Doesnt peak oil toss a wrench into the plan?
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Re: Pentagon to counter 'inaccurate' news

Postby Zardoz » Tue 31 Oct 2006, 20:28:36

It's all about intimidation. That tiny little line about "monitoring weblogs" is all that is needed to have a significant repressive effect.

Rumsfeld has had enough of people like us. He's been doing some serious squirming lately, and he wants to return the favor. Time for us to squirm a bit, says Rummy.
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Re: Pentagon to counter 'inaccurate' news

Postby NEOPO » Tue 31 Oct 2006, 20:40:08

heheh and there I was thinking I was somebody ;-)
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Re: Pentagon to counter 'inaccurate' news

Postby Daculling » Tue 31 Oct 2006, 20:47:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KhanCEO', '
')Anyone know what it takes to get on "The List". I've written not so nice things about the government in general but I'm no insurgent. I would hate for them to "take me away" for some healthly criticism.


If you are some guy in your mother's basement blogging about PO, Uranium ect. you are not on "The List".

If you are person with a clearance or military personnel with confidential knowledge you are on "The List".

Purity of the self... that's my take.
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Re: Pentagon to counter 'inaccurate' news

Postby AgentR » Tue 31 Oct 2006, 21:01:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR', 'N')o domestication is required. As long as most of them are desperate to hold on to a house and car, its all good.

Doesnt peak oil toss a wrench into the plan?


I'm not so sure about that. Refugees and internally migrating populations are wastes of energy, and do not contribute to the wealth of those in power.

This leads me to the conclusion that the bankers and their friends will go to absolutely any length conceivable to keep as many of those mortgages in the "good" category for as absolutely long as possible. Just think, if things got bad enough, they could design a new loan where you pay half the interest, and the other half gets added to the principle. They could do that for a very long time before it would undo them; and it would be less financially painful for the bank than foreclosure.

Basically, I think as peak oil tightens things up, the banks will get even more defensive trying to at least keep things in a steady state in perpetuity, even if they can't get the growth thing going again.
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Re: Pentagon to counter 'inaccurate' news

Postby savethehumans » Tue 31 Oct 2006, 22:04:35

So I can expect a story tomorrow about how all the Iraqi children, in properly scary witch and ghost costumes, went door-to-door in the Green Zone, collecting bags of candy? :roll:
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Re: Pentagon to counter 'inaccurate' news

Postby Chocky » Tue 31 Oct 2006, 22:12:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f they plan on monitoring blogs, what's to stop them from monitoring this site?


The fact that 98% of the content of this site is inane crap.
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Re: Pentagon to counter 'inaccurate' news

Postby NEOPO » Tue 31 Oct 2006, 22:56:43

please direct me to the 2% you speak of ;-)
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Re: Pentagon to counter 'inaccurate' news

Postby Cobra_Strike » Wed 01 Nov 2006, 00:49:00

People only ever need to worry if they act, as soon as someone twinks out and shoots people....and blame...Matts site or something...we might get more people looking at us.
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Pentagon Video From Doubletree To Be Released Within a Week

Postby Carlhole » Thu 02 Nov 2006, 20:28:48

Pentagon Video From Doubletree To Be Released Within a Week

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Killtown', 'T')he much anticipated release of the Doubletree Hotel security video that has been speculated it will show a Boeing 757 hitting the Pentagon is due to be released by one week from today the latest:

“The FBI has agreed to release to Judicial Watch a videotape obtained from the Doubletree Hotel near the Pentagon by November 9, 2006.” - Judicial Watch

This is thought to be the same security video that Doubletree employees watched in "shock and horror" over and over again before the FBI came and confiscated it reportedly the next day:

“A security camera atop a hotel close to the Pentagon may have captured dramatic footage of the hijacked Boeing 757 airliner as it slammed into the western wall of the Pentagon. Hotel employees sat watching the film in shock and horror several times before the FBI confiscated the video as part of its investigation.” - Inside the Ring/Gertz File (09/21/01)


More than 5 years too late, if you ask me. I've been bitching about the government withholding evidence such as this since the attacks.

I'd like them to allows independent examiners to see the whatever wreckage remains too.
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Re: Pentagon Video From Doubletree To Be Released Within a W

Postby dukey » Thu 02 Nov 2006, 20:31:54

If they are going to release the video
its guaranteed it will show nothing

They released the video from the gas station also, you can't see anything. The video is stupidly poor quality, you probably couldn't even recognise a face on the video if you tried.
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Re: Pentagon Video From Doubletree To Be Released Within a W

Postby TITAN » Thu 02 Nov 2006, 23:44:18

It is surprising that it takes this long to edit a video. I guess if they wanted to make the changes absolutely untraceable, it might take this long.
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Re: Pentagon Video From Doubletree To Be Released Within a W

Postby NEOPO » Thu 02 Nov 2006, 23:53:59

nah it doesnt take that long yet why release it now and why did it take 5 years are two very good questions.

I would guess that they never planned on releasing anything and now perhaps they want to attempt to quell the 911 movement.
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Re: Pentagon Video From Doubletree To Be Released Within a W

Postby mmasters » Fri 03 Nov 2006, 00:47:57

Nice timing for a release :roll:

I'm sure there'll be a "ghost" or some such in it that requires "expert analysis"
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Re: Pentagon Video From Doubletree To Be Released Within a W

Postby PolestaR » Fri 03 Nov 2006, 00:49:42

The funny thing is.. this shows clearly the problem of holding back evidence. It allows people like that Dylan Avery or some frenchies to say a plane didn't hit the pentagon and present believable theories. If the video does indeed show a 757 hitting it (not just a group of white pixels like on the other video) can you imagine the FBI getting a laugh at people saying a plane didn't hit it from the lack of evidence they have?

It's just so odd to me... that first they cut frames from the JFK video (or rather... they "lost them") they cut frames from the pentagon security camera (later released the extra frame).. they smudge and airbrush NASA photos... like wtf. We have clear evidence of "cover ups" of "things" all over the place.

Can you imagine the team of photoshoppers the government has putting all kinds of weird things in weird places too. Take a look at this satellite picture.. it clearly shows Bush having sex with Rice at a Macdonalds in afghanistan. Bomb it.
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Re: Pentagon Video From Doubletree To Be Released Within a W

Postby emailking » Fri 03 Nov 2006, 01:00:16

The prosecutor in the Mousaoui (sp?) case said he knew that there were no other videos of the plane besides the two that were released. Therefore there couldn't be any others because they would have needed to be turned over to him as evidence. Thus somebody, somewhere, has lied. And it is unequivocal.
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Re: Pentagon Video From Doubletree To Be Released Within a W

Postby AgentR » Fri 03 Nov 2006, 01:04:23

Could simply be a good way to provide a continuous source of discrediting material to use against the conspiracy theorist. Let'em get way, way out on a limb, the wrong limb, and only then reveal the proof that chops it off.

After a year or few of releases, even if there are a couple conspiracies that are factual, they will be dismissed as yet more silliness that will be eventually disproven.
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Re: Pentagon Video From Doubletree To Be Released Within a W

Postby mmasters » Fri 03 Nov 2006, 01:59:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR', 'C')ould simply be a good way to provide a continuous source of discrediting material to use against the conspiracy theorist. Let'em get way, way out on a limb, the wrong limb, and only then reveal the proof that chops it off.

To which the counter is why hold it back so long if there's nothing to hide?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')fter a year or few of releases, even if there are a couple conspiracies that are factual, they will be dismissed as yet more silliness that will be eventually disproven.

Or take time doctoring it up to make it as believable as possible and strategically target a specific perception.
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Re: Pentagon Video From Doubletree To Be Released Within a W

Postby AgentR » Fri 03 Nov 2006, 02:04:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mmasters', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR', 'C')ould simply be a good way to provide a continuous source of discrediting material to use against the conspiracy theorist. Let'em get way, way out on a limb, the wrong limb, and only then reveal the proof that chops it off.

To which the counter is why hold it back so long if there's nothing to hide?


Because there is a lot to hide, just not what you guys are looking for. The longer they hold back meaningless evidence, the louder the CT's get. The louder the CT's get, the crazier they all look when any particular group of them is decisively proven wrong.

You are proceeding from the assumption that antagonized, vocal CT's are making people in government uncomfortable. I believe that assumption is greatly in error.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')fter a year or few of releases, even if there are a couple conspiracies that are factual, they will be dismissed as yet more silliness that will be eventually disproven.

Or take time doctoring it up to make it as believable as possible and strategically target a specific perception.[/quote]

That works well enough to serve the above purpose.
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