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Unread postby ChickenLittle » Wed 24 Nov 2004, 09:30:48

I have spouse who completely grasps the peak oil issue, but who's the type of person to wait until other people are seen climbing into the lifeboats before thinking of abandoning ship. To feel like I'm actually becoming prepared, I make small useful purchases and just mention them casually to him... a solar-powered flashlight here, a wind-up radio there...and some I don't even mention, like a couple of extra tins of food with the shopping each week.

As retail therapy goes, it's pretty mild, and it does make me feel a bit better. :wink:
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Unread postby Permanently_Baffled » Wed 24 Nov 2004, 10:27:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smiley', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
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I mean why not directly name your site peakoilishereandwereallgoingtodie.com.


LOL :lol: :lol: Now thats funny mwahhahahaha!

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Unread postby holmes » Wed 24 Nov 2004, 10:52:21

drop her. she will be liability and a burden on you in ten years. find a real women. Not many left in this fluff society. One that can get dirty and has taken basic ecology and biology courses and can grow vegtables and beans. The women like your girlfriend will be cannon fodder and mass rape victims. They are worthless in the real world. Great at disney land. great going down. thats about it.
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Unread postby oowolf » Thu 02 Dec 2004, 19:06:58

Told wife more kids bad idea--wife gone. now looking for PO woman. isnt there a PO singles site?
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Unread postby Aaron » Thu 02 Dec 2004, 19:49:03

FAQ?
The problem is, of course, that not only is economics bankrupt, but it has always been nothing more than politics in disguise... economics is a form of brain damage.

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Unread postby BorneoRagnarok » Thu 02 Dec 2004, 22:36:35

"Baby are cute you know".
"Baby are innocent."
"Baby are so pure"

Direct translation from my native language.

Mr. OOwolf, you are going against your former wife biological clock . No wonder wifey gone. She cannot accept your reality. For example, I need 3 years to convince myself that peak oil is real even if I read every single articles about peak oil from dieoff.org in 2001 and Malcolm Slesser books about Energy since 1996. I was a librarian in my secondary school for years. I only subscribed to peak oil by March 2004. I thought I am open-minded people. 8O :-D
Most people will never subscribed to "peak oil".

Energy in the economy, (1978), McMillan, London
Dictionary of Energy (as editor) (1982), , McMillan, London
Not by money alone:.... economics as nature intended
Jane King & Malcolm Slesser.

http://www.rui.co.uk/slesser/

Talking about spouse, that's day Gogota mother-in-law want to introduce a lady to me. :roll: when I visit Gogota in his peak oil communities. So remote and far away.
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Unread postby Whitecrab » Sun 05 Dec 2004, 21:30:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Fatherof4', 'I') see the tension come over my wife every time I try and discuss Peak Oil. She basically considers it just "my latest obessesion". However, just recently she said "Honey, just tell me what you think we should do about, and we'll do it!"... but damn if I know. She is thinking that walking the kids to school (instead of driving) is going to make a difference. When she brought that up, I basically said "Well, that's good honey, but have you heard of this little country called China? Well, they are basically coming out of the economic dark ages as we speak, so I don't think walking to school is going to mean sh*t in the face of that!"


That probably wasn't the best way to help her discuss it with you. At least she was trying, but then you kinda shut her down with a " hahaha!!!!...but nothing we do matters anyway" response.
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Unread postby mindfarkk » Wed 08 Dec 2004, 12:53:00

my boyfriend, when he feels overwhelmed or threatened (or in this case, both) tends to see everything in black and white and his ears slam shut. So in this case no matter how i approach the issue he's going to here "THE END OF THE WORLD IS COMING" and he's going to get very angry and stubborn and refuse to hear or discuss it. plus he has children who will be impacted so this means four times as much pain.

so i think the thing to do is learn as much as i can both about the issues and about productive ways we can respond to the issues, and start to teach him the pieces without showing him the whole picture right away. this has worked to introduce him to new concepts in the past that got him defensive if presented in a straight-forward way. i guess you could call it a flank attack!
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Unread postby KiddieKorral » Wed 08 Dec 2004, 14:45:53

Y'all make me appreciate being single. :razz:
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Unread postby EnviroEngr » Wed 08 Dec 2004, 15:04:13

Significant Others seem to always have that wry counter-balancing effect. KiddieKorral, on the other hand, by comparison is self counter-balancing.
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Unread postby KiddieKorral » Wed 08 Dec 2004, 15:10:20

Self-counterbalancing? *confused puppy look* explain please. I'm having a braindead day.
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Unread postby Trab » Wed 08 Dec 2004, 15:34:12

On the rare occasions I discuss Peak Oil with anyone, but especially family members, I am usually somewhat vague and try to emphasize the concept of limitation. My wife thinks I'm nuts for "worrying about a problem that I can't stop or solve," so I don't discuss it with her a lot. I've broached the subject once or twice, and that's it.

What I do now is comment on different things she reads in the paper or sees on TV. The high price of oil, the US Debt, etc. I'll say something like "We are going to have to think seriously about the choices we make in the future," or "this isn't something that's going to go away." She'll agree, and we leave it at that. My ranting about government conspiracies, media collusion and mass chaos would simply land me in divorce court. :)

Telling my wife that the way of living she likes is about to end, that we'll be spending more time farming, and that our kids will have a different way of life than us does nothing but upset her. I suspect that it's the same for a lot of people.
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Unread postby UncoveringTruths » Wed 08 Dec 2004, 15:44:49

Don't say a word just start a garden say the vegetables are better than store bought(which they are). Get the spouse interested in small ways, views of this sort are not going to be agreed upon. It's your job to help prepare, eventually there thoughts will catch up with yours, if your spouse always agreed with you then that would be boring. [smilie=love3.gif]
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Unread postby mindfarkk » Wed 08 Dec 2004, 17:57:58

yeah that sound reasonable anyway. until i uncover some piece of information that convinces me that the sky really is falling all at once right now, i'm gonna take this in manageable lifestyle changes.
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Counter Balance

Unread postby EnviroEngr » Wed 08 Dec 2004, 22:09:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KiddieKorral', 'S')elf-counterbalancing? *confused puppy look* explain please. I'm having a braindead day.


Your brain's fine -- I was being terribly cryptic again. Those of us who are in long-term relationships at some point come to the awareness that our partners tend to take opposing viewpoints seemingly to bring equilibrium to a situation (in fact, in many complex interchanges, entire personae evolve to oppose complete world-views). Since you don't have a partner and you seem balanced, you do it all by yourself!
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Unread postby KiddieKorral » Thu 09 Dec 2004, 06:35:37

Cool! So that's why I have arguments with myself!
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Unread postby smiley » Thu 09 Dec 2004, 07:45:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')y wife thinks I'm nuts for "worrying about a problem that I can't stop or solve," so I don't discuss it with her a lot. I've broached the subject once or twice, and that's it.


She's right too you know. They key to life and relations is that you shouldn't take it too seriously.

You can make some conscious decisions to prepare yourself for PO, but when your life starts revolving around worrying about it you have a problem. Then your basically are living in the future and it is impossible to have a relation with someone who spends more time in the future than in the present. At a certain point you should be able to say "I cannot prepare for everything so I'll just see what happens and face it with a smile".

And about children, why not? Even if the world as we know it would end I don't see that as a reason not to have them. Imagine yourself sitting in your Styrofoam shack in fifty years time bragging to your grandchildren that their granddad had his own car once. Imagine the amazement on the toddlers faces when you tell them that you had something called a computer with which you held conversations with people on the other side of the planet. Why miss out on that opportunity?

Besides, my great-granddad grew up in a war, my granddad grew up in a war, my mother was raised in a Japanese prison camp, maybe my children will grow up in a difficult period, so what. Being born in a problematic period at least has the advantage that things can only get better.
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Re: Counter Balance

Unread postby mindfarkk » Thu 09 Dec 2004, 10:14:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnviroEngr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KiddieKorral', 'S')elf-counterbalancing? *confused puppy look* explain please. I'm having a braindead day.


Your brain's fine -- I was being terribly cryptic again. Those of us who are in long-term relationships at some point come to the awareness that our partners tend to take opposing viewpoints seemingly to bring equilibrium to a situation (in fact, in many complex interchanges, entire personae evolve to oppose complete world-views). Since you don't have a partner and you seem balanced, you do it all by yourself!


holy shit is that what's happening?
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THE PO and your Spouse / SO Thread (merged)

Unread postby Madpaddy » Thu 17 Feb 2005, 12:13:33

PEAK OIL IS DRIVING MY SPOUSE POTTY
I think my wife would prefer PO to the alternative of me surfing the net for hours at a time looking up everything from square foot gardening, to alternative medicine to solar PV arrays. I think she will probably kill me at some stage in the near future if I keep at it.

She wants her old Madpaddy back and who could blame her, I'm such great fun :oops: and modest as well :lol:
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