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Re: Regulators Warn Bankers About Risky Home Loans

Unread postby coyote » Sun 01 Oct 2006, 12:02:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rwwff', 'S')orry, but planting broccoli seedlings, showing my daughter how to not kill the small, three week old daikons with the watering can, and tending to my nectarines needed the time, more than I needed to be a MFP.

Good on you, rwwff. That rocks :)
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Re: Analyzing the Housing Bubble

Unread postby Tapas » Sun 01 Oct 2006, 12:52:19

This hilarious commercial encapsulates what is wrong with some henpecked husbands - always eager to please their wives … and getting stuck with a 30 year long slavery contract with the banksters!


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Loved the viewer comments :-D :-D

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Dallas: Foreclosures jump to 1980s level

Unread postby emersonbiggins » Fri 20 Oct 2006, 11:37:50

8O Hear that bubble hissing now?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Foreclosures jump to '80s level

Nearly 4,000 homes up for possible sale; gas prices, debt blamed

Home foreclosure postings in the Dallas-Fort Worth area have surged to their highest level since the 1980s.

Nearly 4,000 homes in Dallas, Tarrant, Collin and Denton counties have been posted for possible sale in November, up 49 percent from the same period a year ago.

"It's high, much higher than normal," said George Roddy, president of Addison-based Foreclosure Listing Service, which compiled the data.

Fueling the foreclosures are interest rate hikes, rising living expenses and consumer debt, and aggressive lending practices.

Home foreclosure postings reached about 35,300 so far this year, increasing 20 percent over the same period a year ago. That figure has already surpassed the total for 2005, which was about 32,500.

Foreclosures typically have their roots in a family calamity, such as divorce, death or job loss. Making things worse this year, said Mr. Roddy, were high energy prices and ballooning credit card debt. Meanwhile, real wages have stagnated.

"If you look at gasoline charges up until a month ago, they were up to the moon," he said. "And obviously, there's the cost of electricity and the high credit card balances people are holding."

Another likely culprit: aggressive lending, in which mortgage companies sell homeowners products that might not be suitable in the long term.


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')Still, there are also positive signs, said Craig Jarrell, president for the Dallas region at Pulaski Mortgage Co.

"Maybe it's the spike before things start getting better," he said of the foreclosure postings. "Gasoline prices are down, interest rates have stabilized, the economy's doing all right, the stock market is getting better.

"I think real estate is going to keep on trucking in the Dallas area."

[more @ Dallas Morning News]


Why do you think that, Craig? Because you'll be out of a job otherwise? :roll:
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Re: Dallas: Foreclosures jump to 1980s level

Unread postby PrairieMule » Fri 20 Oct 2006, 11:54:25

Those nearing foreclosure in the Dallas area all suffered from "Big Hat No Cattle" syndrome of optimism from the last 10 years of growth here. The market is cooling off and rightfully so. The decline in Dallas is a mere speedbump compared to the crater California, Nevada and Florida has begun to hit.

BTW-I survived the 1st and 2nd round of layoffs here at Countrywide.
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Re: Dallas: Foreclosures jump to 1980s level

Unread postby emersonbiggins » Fri 20 Oct 2006, 11:56:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrairieMule', 'T')hose nearing foreclosure in the Dallas area all suffered from "Big Hat No Cattle" syndrome of optimism from the last 10 years of growth here. The market is cooling off and rightfully so. The decline in Dallas is a mere speedbump compared to the crater California, Nevada and Florida has begun to hit.

BTW-I survived the 1st and 2nd round of layoffs here at Countrywide.


That's good news, PM. From what I hear, Countrywide is still looking for mondo office space in Austin. I guess they're not convinced the market is through here, though I have my reservations...
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Re: Dallas: Foreclosures jump to 1980s level

Unread postby PrairieMule » Fri 20 Oct 2006, 12:15:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrairieMule', 'T')hose nearing foreclosure in the Dallas area all suffered from "Big Hat No Cattle" syndrome of optimism from the last 10 years of growth here. The market is cooling off and rightfully so. The decline in Dallas is a mere speedbump compared to the crater California, Nevada and Florida has begun to hit.

BTW-I survived the 1st and 2nd round of layoffs here at Countrywide.


That's good news, PM. From what I hear, Countrywide is still looking for mondo office space in Austin. I guess they're not convinced the market is through here, though I have my reservations...


Office space and salaries are cheaper in Austin, Texas than Rosemeade, California. The new CEO is trimming the fat to make the company leaner. Most of the layoffs were in California, the ones in Texas were low performers. Regretable but I understand why.
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Re: Dallas: Foreclosures jump to 1980s level

Unread postby Fergus » Fri 20 Oct 2006, 14:01:23

Theres two houses in my neighborhood right now that were foreclosed on. Thats just on the route we walk our dog. I am in D/FW.
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Re: Dallas: Foreclosures jump to 1980s level

Unread postby TreebeardsUncle » Sat 21 Oct 2006, 00:29:19

Well, how far down should the real estate market go and when is it likely to recover, do you all think?
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Re: Dallas: Foreclosures jump to 1980s level

Unread postby bobbyald » Sat 21 Oct 2006, 08:43:40

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Re: Dallas: Foreclosures jump to 1980s level

Unread postby TommyJefferson » Mon 23 Oct 2006, 12:36:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrairieMule', 'B')TW-I survived the 1st and 2nd round of layoffs here at Countrywide.


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Re: Dallas: Foreclosures jump to 1980s level

Unread postby PrairieMule » Mon 23 Oct 2006, 13:52:50

Our office is moving to Richardson this spring. I'll have to go from a 3 mile commute right now to 25 mile each way. I may get a DART pass.
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Re: Dallas: Foreclosures jump to 1980s level

Unread postby galacticsurfer » Wed 25 Oct 2006, 10:46:17

I read Mish all the time. Great stuff. My question is when will the unemployment stats and the market finally react to this and how big a recession or depression will there be? Is this the big one like the great depression? The Japanese had ten years of almost no growth and the govt. spent money like water to pump up the economy to no avail. Only demand from China helped overcome the problems there but now everybody is doing temp jobs(no more iron rice bowl). But people were not starving. So will great depression come next year but nobody will starve due to govt. handouts?
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New home price plunge biggest since '70

Unread postby Tuike » Thu 26 Oct 2006, 16:02:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('CNNMoney.com', '[')b]Prices post nearly a 10% decline from a year earlier and more than 15% from peak; lower prices lift September sales 5.3%.

New home prices took their biggest hit in more than 35 years in September, the government said Thursday, the latest sign that builders are struggling to unload a glut of unsold homes as the nation's real estate market cools.


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Re: New home price plunge biggest since '70

Unread postby emersonbiggins » Thu 26 Oct 2006, 16:46:53

Just a few unsold homes spells big trouble for builders and developers.
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Re: New home price plunge biggest since '70

Unread postby ColossalContrarian » Thu 26 Oct 2006, 17:19:48

Not to hijack this thread but can anyone tell me why the housing bubble isn't effecting Las Vegas?

I'm not the type of person who could live in Vegas but over the past few years the housing market in Vegas has skyrocketed and I'm trying to understand what the big draw to living in Vegas is all about.

It's the desert, no easy access to water or food... Seems like a bad place to be if PO hits!
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Re: New home price plunge biggest since '70

Unread postby ThunderSnow » Thu 26 Oct 2006, 17:23:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sabibaby', 'N')ot to hijack this thread but can anyone tell me why the housing bubble isn't effecting Las Vegas?

I'm not the type of person who could live in Vegas but over the past few years the housing market in Vegas has skyrocketed and I'm trying to understand what the big draw to living in Vegas is all about.

It's the desert, no easy access to water or food... Seems like a bad place to be if PO hits!


Same thing out here in Chicago, though prices have slightly decreased it is more of running at a good clip after sprinting. I think what will happen is as energy sources dwindle we will see more people living in the city thus homesales boost or country (off the radar) and it will be larger number suburban home sales dropping thus bringing down the average.
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Re: New home price plunge biggest since '70

Unread postby firestarter » Thu 26 Oct 2006, 17:24:09

Below is how the markets dealt with today's housing news:

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Re: New home price plunge biggest since '70

Unread postby emersonbiggins » Thu 26 Oct 2006, 17:26:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sabibaby', 'N')ot to hijack this thread but can anyone tell me why the housing bubble isn't effecting Las Vegas?


Oh, but it is... :twisted:
New 'Ghost Towns' Sprout up in Las Vegas

Vegas Market Cools off
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Re: New home price plunge biggest since '70

Unread postby ThunderSnow » Thu 26 Oct 2006, 17:56:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sabibaby', 'N')ot to hijack this thread but can anyone tell me why the housing bubble isn't effecting Las Vegas?


Oh, but it is... :twisted:
New 'Ghost Towns' Sprout up in Las Vegas

Vegas Market Cools off


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