$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', 'Y')ou're obviously too young to know anything about Atlantis. Although I notice HBO occasionally shows Goodfellas.
To the East Africa was a neighbour, across a short strait of sea miles.
The great Egyptian age is but a remnant of The Atlantian culture.
The antediluvian kings colonised the world
All the Gods who play in the mythological dramas
In all legends from all lands were from fair Atlantis.
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Ice Age!
Re: Ice Age!
by basil_hayden » Tue 17 Oct 2006, 09:23:05
You're obviously too old to incorporate new information.
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Re: Ice Age!
by TheDude » Tue 17 Oct 2006, 13:55:43
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raphael', 'T')he West Coast being a south coast at one time may help explain why the West Coast Haida Indian share a similar dialect to the Sumerians.
And it also helps explain why there exist similarities between Judaism and the Indian Medicine Wheel, the Aztec and the Inca.
And it also helps explain why there exist similarities between Judaism and the Indian Medicine Wheel, the Aztec and the Inca.
Might I suggest a simpler device for such cross-cultural parellels, namely, the boat?
Light up some banana peels and coze up with a Barry Fell book!
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Re: Ice Age!
by Lawmage » Tue 17 Oct 2006, 15:28:52
While Raphael seems more than moderately unhinged, there is something to the possibility of sudden global climate change and the rapid onset of a a period of glaciation. The Pentagon has been spun up on this topic for some time now. I posted a link to an ONA write up on it several weeks ago.
Indeed, the geological/archeological record is pretty clear that the Earth (and presumably humanity) has undergone other periods of sudden climate change.
While its not exactly relevant to the topic of Ice Age!, the most recent Scientific American (Oct 2006) has a very interesting article about mass extinction events. It is conventional wisdom that MEEs are related to bolide impacts but it appears that conventional wisdom is not nearly as wise as some think. A new theory is emerging, one that holds these MEEs are related to climate change. As the world heats up, the ability of the oceans to hold disolved oxygen is impaired. Sort of like how a warmed coke looses its carbonation. As the volume of O2 in the oceans decreases, the chemocline rises closer to the surface. If the warming is sufficient, the chemocline actually breachs the surface and in the process releases enormous quantities of H2S into the atmosphere. Marine plant and animal life as well as terrestrial plant and animal life is devestated in the process.
Global warming plays a part in such a scenario, obviously. The study discussed in the SciAm article has a benchmark. When atmospheric carbon 13 reachs 1000ppm, the switch appears to be thrown. Right now, the readings are at about 325ppm with a 2ppm annual increase. At that rate, we have about 200 years...assuming the Ice Age does not come first...
As an aside, Raphael, have you read Graham Hancock's Underworld. Its absolutely fascinating.
Indeed, the geological/archeological record is pretty clear that the Earth (and presumably humanity) has undergone other periods of sudden climate change.
While its not exactly relevant to the topic of Ice Age!, the most recent Scientific American (Oct 2006) has a very interesting article about mass extinction events. It is conventional wisdom that MEEs are related to bolide impacts but it appears that conventional wisdom is not nearly as wise as some think. A new theory is emerging, one that holds these MEEs are related to climate change. As the world heats up, the ability of the oceans to hold disolved oxygen is impaired. Sort of like how a warmed coke looses its carbonation. As the volume of O2 in the oceans decreases, the chemocline rises closer to the surface. If the warming is sufficient, the chemocline actually breachs the surface and in the process releases enormous quantities of H2S into the atmosphere. Marine plant and animal life as well as terrestrial plant and animal life is devestated in the process.
Global warming plays a part in such a scenario, obviously. The study discussed in the SciAm article has a benchmark. When atmospheric carbon 13 reachs 1000ppm, the switch appears to be thrown. Right now, the readings are at about 325ppm with a 2ppm annual increase. At that rate, we have about 200 years...assuming the Ice Age does not come first...
As an aside, Raphael, have you read Graham Hancock's Underworld. Its absolutely fascinating.
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Re: Ice Age!
by basil_hayden » Tue 17 Oct 2006, 16:50:24
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raphael', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('basil_hayden', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', 'Y')ou're obviously too young to know anything about Atlantis. Although I notice HBO occasionally shows Goodfellas.
To the East Africa was a neighbour, across a short strait of sea miles.
The great Egyptian age is but a remnant of The Atlantian culture.
The antediluvian kings colonised the world
All the Gods who play in the mythological dramas
In all legends from all lands were from fair Atlantis.
To the East Africa was a neighbour, across a short strait of sea miles.
The great Egyptian age is but a remnant of The Atlantian culture.
The antediluvian kings colonised the world
All the Gods who play in the mythological dramas
In all legends from all lands were from fair Atlantis.
You're obviously too old to incorporate new information.
You want some new thoughts Basil ... I love the smell of basil ... I love rubbing Basil between my fingers.
Did I say sinking Basil?
The PHYSICAL shifting or sliding of the poles has been documented many times in the past is what I said Basil…I would like to add the physical pole and its antipodal sister…because we rarely talk about the shift that takes place in the south.
So I am glad you responded confirming two things:
“So yes, the West Coast of Canada was at one time the Southern Coast of the North American continent”
and
“In fact, your best bet for crustal sinking would lie in an ice age not a warm age, where you can pile much ice on a continent and cause subsidence temporarily until the ice melts off”.
Is this the present scenario, is the ice melting off the ice shelfs?
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('basil_hayden', ' ')
What I detected was pure crap. But you're right, and deserve a finer explanation. Plate tectonics is the Earth's heat engine in motion and has nothing at all to do with the core, except that's the oven that gets plate movement rolling. Mantle plumes convect, plates are dragged away from spreading centers, toward convergent centers, and along transforms. Plumes not associated with a plate edge tend to form hot spots like Hawaii in the middle of the thin Pacific plate. So yes, the West Coast of Canada was at one time the Southern Coast of the North American continent. I'll even go further to say it was a dry, desert mesa environment prior to subduction of the Pacific and Juan de Fuca plates. But crustal sinking? LOL it's a density thing, Jeeves, crust is less dense than mantle, so until we change the densities, we have not a worry. In fact, your best bet for crustal sinking would lie in an ice age not a warm age, where you can pile much ice on a continent and cause subsidence temporarily until the ice melts off.
...I really really really want what you're smoking Raph, it would make life so much easier to be completely oblivious to reality and just put one's own spin on it.
First Basil nobody really knows what exists at the core of the earth…what I detect is pure crap.
PO doubters go here for the Theory of Crust Displacement not endorsed by the mainstream for what it potentially suggests.
Proof >>>>> http://www.crystalinks.com/crustal.html
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')n earth crust displacement is a movement of the entire crust as a single unit over the inner layers of our planet.
This theory was endorsed by Albert Einstein.
proof >>>> http://www.flem-ath.com/e-h.htm
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')Maybe Albert and I are smokin’ the same shit Basil?
I know Sagan and I shared a certain love of tokin’ and then doing some star-gazing, all three of us coming to the same conclusions and understanding that exists a higher power that connects us all.
I know how important it is here at PO to use the right terminology…due to the habit of a rush to judgment…I did use the words crust displacement.
The West Coast being a south coast at one time may help explain why the West Coast Haida Indian share a similar dialect to the Sumerians.
And it also helps explain why there exist similarities between Judaism and the Indian Medicine Wheel, the Aztec and the Inca.
Once I get my scanner going I will present sketches showing the connections between the cultures apparently separated by an ocean yet we have evidence of much earlier contact.
Using the most profound pre-historic symbol, the multi-talented, all-encompassing irreverent and reverent swastika. How easily the swastika and the square are used as the foundations to draw Solomon’s knot. The first Jewish king.
Basil I will suggest jumped to conclusions thinking I was going to suggest that beyond the Pillars of Hercules is out in the mid-Atlantic…nope.
Atlantis located in the World Ocean and is in fact Antarctica.
Get a globe … rotate it until the continent of Antarctica rests in the middle.
It sits in the middle of the World Ocean surrounded by a ring of land.
Basil these two quotes attributed to you …
“So yes, the West Coast of Canada was at one time the Southern Coast of the North American continent”
and
“In fact, your best bet for crustal sinking would lie in an ice age not a warm age, where you can pile much ice on a continent and cause subsidence temporarily until the ice melts off”.
…is actually information presented in a book called “When the Sky Fell, In Search of Atlantis” written by Rand and Rose Flem-Ath with an afterword by John Anthony West.
basil and Basil ... what are you smokin', drinkin' watchin'?
You speak of reality based on what Basil, I am to accept your 'reality'?
Who are you?
You have obviously been fed mainstream drival... science not unlike religion that has been directed to go in certain directions...
The truth will soon be revealed ... too late ... blub ... blub.
Like ice cubes plopping into the World Ocean ... and the UV rays will purify the oceans and you and me in preparation for a new golden age ... a new world order.
Duh.
namaste
Raphael
