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Modern serfdom i.e feudal rule will be back...
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Modern serfdom i.e feudal rule will be back...
by neocone » Sun 15 Oct 2006, 01:23:10
The start of it all began when the US shifted from a manufacturing economy to a service economy. By leaving the creation of consumer goods to other countries, it left us in the position of becoming a debtor nation since most of the services we now “produce” are only used locally and have no international market. The common wisdom of the least few decades is that the American citizen has their retirement wealth tied up in their homes. If there were a way to steal that wealth, then the middle class for all intents and purposes could be eliminated, and all that wealth could revert to the bankers and corporations. Hence the creation of HELOCS, and low rate refi’s. Give them the money and they will spend it foolishly. Which they did. The result of all this will be a standard of living similar to serfdom..debt that can never be repaid, wages at a subsistence level that can barely buy food and medical care, and no hope for upward mobility. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. We just got fooled again.
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Re: Modern serfdom i.e feudal rule will be back...
by AgentR » Sun 15 Oct 2006, 01:49:17
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he result of all this will be a standard of living similar to serfdom.
I don't think you quite grasp the scale of exactly how bad the serfs had it during most of that period. Even bereft of most oil, we can still easily live better than the serfs did.
And why are middle class people signing loans that are designed for people making a half million a year in a very uneven stream of income?
If you're middle class, you need to be buying one and only one house, at a price that you can afford on nothing worse than a 30 year fixed rate, and preferably a 15 year fixed rate.
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Re: Modern serfdom i.e feudal rule will be back...
by evilgenius » Sun 15 Oct 2006, 03:02:19
We are serfs tied to the prosperity of each of the mid to large scale corporations that most of us work for. It is those corps that have almost all of the political power. The Federal Reserve makes policy based upon what is in their best interest. The Repugnicans continually oppose any national health system so that the workers will remain tied to their bosses and not agitate for higher wages. To top it off we go around introducing ourselves to each other as if what we did for a living, which fuedal lord we served, truly defined us as human beings.
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Re: Modern serfdom i.e feudal rule will be back...
by chris-h » Sun 15 Oct 2006, 06:47:26
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('neocone', 'T')he start of it all began when the US shifted from a manufacturing economy to a service economy..
Here is when it started much much earlier say 1900 ... Empty Children=serfs
http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/chapters/18p.htm
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'E')mpty Children
Not far to go now. Here is my recipe for empty children. If you want to cook whole children, as I suspect we all do, just contradict these stages in the formula:
1. Remove children from the business of the world until time has passed for them to learn how to self-teach.
2. Age-grade them so that past and future both are muted and become irrelevant.
3. Take all religion out of their lives except the hidden civil religion of appetite, and positive/negative reinforcement schedules.
4. Remove all significant functions from home and family life except its role as dormitory and casual companionship. Make parents unpaid agents of the State; recruit them into partnerships to monitor the conformity of children to an official agenda.
5. Keep children under surveillance every minute from dawn to dusk. Give no private space or time. Fill time with collective activities. Record behavior quantitatively.
6. Addict the young to machinery and electronic displays. Teach that these are desirable to recreation and learning both.
7. Use designed games and commercial entertainment to teach preplanned habits, attitudes, and language usage.
8. Pair the selling of merchandise with attractive females in their prime childbearing years so that the valences of lovemaking and mothering can be transferred intact to the goods vended.
9. Remove as much private ritual as possible from young lives, such as the rituals of food preparation and family dining.
10. Keep both parents employed with the business of strangers. Discourage independent livelihoods with low start-up costs. Make labor for others and outside obligations first priority, self-development second.
11. Grade, evaluate, and assess children constantly and publicly. Begin early. Make sure everyone knows his or her rank.
12. Honor the highly graded. Keep grading and real world accomplishment as strictly separate as possible so that a false meritocracy, dependent on the support of authority to continue, is created. Push the most independent kids to the margin; do not tolerate real argument.
13. Forbid the efficient transmission of useful knowledge, such as how to build a house, repair a car, make a dress.
14. Reward dependency in many forms. Call it "teamwork."
15. Establish visually degraded group environments called "schools" and arrange mass movements through these environments at regular intervals. Encourage a level of fluctuating noise (aperiodic negative reinforcement) so that concentration, habits of civil discourse, and intellectual investigation are gradually extinguished from the behavioral repertoire.
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Re: Modern serfdom i.e feudal rule will be back...
by Ludi » Sun 15 Oct 2006, 11:51:05
Hmm. Need to work on the religion aspect more if you're going to develop those empty children. Religion is huge here in the central US.
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Re: Modern serfdom i.e feudal rule will be back...
by NEOPO » Sun 15 Oct 2006, 12:42:46
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he result of all this will be a standard of living similar to serfdom.
I don't think you quite grasp the scale of exactly how bad the serfs had it during most of that period. Even bereft of most oil, we can still easily live better than the serfs did.
And why are middle class people signing loans that are designed for people making a half million a year in a very uneven stream of income?
If you're middle class, you need to be buying one and only one house, at a price that you can afford on nothing worse than a 30 year fixed rate, and preferably a 15 year fixed rate.
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