[AgentR]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ElijahJones', 'B')ut who would lie about their IQ? Maybe it was the anecdotes next to the scores that we responded to. Next to the 140 bin is the statements "I'm wicked smart baby." Everyone thinks they are wicked smart, the number means nothing.

[evilmonkeyspanker]

I don't need to lie about my IQ, or my penis size. I test in the top 99.95%, maybe it doesn't mean anything, but I don't care. I don't have much else to be proud of so I hold up for that. For those of you attacking people for claiming High IQ's regardless of truth or not, are letting others know of your inferiority complex. So get bent out of shape, if people are dishonest, just let it be. At the end of the day, I don't know you and you don't know me or anyone else on here really.

How many here actually know for a fact who someone else on here is? Have you ever met any of these people?

If I were to guess; for the most part, both answers would be no.

just let it go, and don't sweat the small stuff.

Lets just worry about the future and were we are going, Everything else will sort itself out.

[AgentR]

I've never understood the day care thing either, cept maybe for the case of the single parent with kids, and no additional family support available. But instead, people are using daycare to allow both to work in order to support a lifestyle that mimics the rich and famous.

Kids don't need a big house or fancy toys, they need parental TIME.

[smiley]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')t's much easier to rationalize why we "need" to work two jobs. laugh and cry when I see the neighbors, who "have" to work 2 jobs, dump their kids off at daycare in 40k cars. I drive a car that's worth about 600 bucks. Runs great, had it for a decade, maintain it well. Oh yeah. And I raise my own children.

[MD]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smiley', ' ')....... Genius comes with a price.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gideon', 'Y')ou go AgentR!

The thing is, once you bait enough people in, they become hard pressed to view it differently.

That is, if you can get young parents to dump their kids in for a few years, those parents because immune to the realization that they are copping out on their responsibity and trading parenting for material crap.

Not only do they have to buy your argument, they then also have to acknowledge that they let their children down.

It's much easier to rationalize why we "need" to work two jobs. I laugh and cry when I see the neighbors, who "have" to work 2 jobs, dump their kids off at daycare in 40k cars. I drive a car that's worth about 600 bucks. Runs great, had it for a decade, maintain it well. Oh yeah. And I raise my own children.

[The_Toecutter]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'a')n extremely high percentage of those in the 140+ bracket suffer from autism and/or social disorders.

[threadbear]

Gideon, If you live in a coastal city, where homes have gone up 100% or more in the last decade, you and your mate NEED to work. The alternative is to live in a real slum neighbourhood, with crack houses and drive-by shootings. All you have to do is look at affordability stats. When you talk about practical downsizing in this kind of urban environment, you can't ignore the implications.

Having worked in day-care, I agree that home with parent is the best situation. But, you know, that's only some homes and some parents. Many parents truly suck at parenting, and shouldn't have kids, period.

[threadbear]

Well, that brings us to an interesting point. How many people living in these coastal cities need to be there? What if that truly is the only place they can find work, and what if their parents, representing their only real reciprocal safety net, are there? I do agree that if people can they should leave these expensive places. No argument. I also agree that there are many things people can do to reduce their standard of living and their costs. I've done them all, but I was free to live wherever I wanted.

[Tyler_JC]

Gideon, for the love of God, please learn how to use the quote icon!

Or even just read the following.

First type [quote]

Add in whatever the other person said.

Then end with a [\quote] (The slanted bar should go the other way)

[Tyler_JC]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gideon', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')yler, I will if you tell me that my posts are confusing to read and I get corroborating evidence

[smiley]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') don't know how true or false this statement is, but I find it funny that someone would mention this.

[JustinFrankl]

Intelligence is only part of the system, part of the experience of being human.

"Intelligence" is part memory, part patten recognition and prediction, part discrimination. And in each one of these areas, people will still vary in their aptitudes to language, formal logic, mathematics, complex abstraction, spatial relations. Up to here is what "IQ" attempts to measure.

But all of this is yet filtered through a person's perceptions. You cannot claim someone has a low spatial IQ if the diagrams were all in red and green and the person is color-blind. While IQ tests will account for some perceptual deficiencies like this one, they won't account for all of them.

Beyond intelligence is the emotional weight that an experience has. I get hungry, which is unpleasant, therefore food is important. How do I get food? Steal, get money, buy food. Oh, I don't like jail. Avoid getting caught or get a job? I can't avoid getting caught forever, so get a job. Flowers are pretty, I like flowers. How do I get flowers? Not sure yet, not that important, figure it out later. Flowers can help get me laid? Here's a list of 20 florists in my area, their hours and their inventories. I know virtually nothing about the process of upholstering furniture, not important, not relevant, no opinion. Upholstery can get me laid? Never heard that before, so I don't believe you.

Through the course of a person's life, they will learn hundreds of thousands of things, each with some personal emotional relevance about pain, pleasure, hunger, thirst, survival, friendship, responsibility, trust, betrayal, envy, honor, duty, motivation, fear, love, hatred, and a myriad others, and the situations surrounding them, all of which interact, build, and impact each other's relevance on an ongoing basis. Looking through this emotional/experiential "lens" is also required when evaluating intelligence, as someone's poor performance in a particular area can also indicate a belief that they aren't good at writing/math/quantum mechanics, that they can't be a physicist or a doctor, solely because several people they trusted told them so. Generations of women didn't enter executive and/or scientific professions for this reason, certainly not because of lack of skill, talent, or intelligence.

For those of you who think that being freaky smart is all chitlins and gravy, it isn't. "Be glad you're not a genius, it's a lonely life."

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JustinFrankl', '
')
For those of you who think that being freaky smart is all chitlins and gravy, it isn't. "Be glad you're not a genius, it's a lonely life."

[The_Toecutter]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')ee for yourself. Go to the local university and look how many people fit the description below:

[Vexed]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JustinFrankl', '
')
For those of you who think that being freaky smart is all chitlins and gravy, it isn't. "Be glad you're not a genius, it's a lonely life."

[emersonbiggins]

Hmmmm.....no need for me to lie about a test I took 12 years ago. I specifically remember my school counselor relaying my score to me. If any of you would like, I could probably look him up, have him scan the test in and post it online.

Those tests are meaningless, because even with all the pattern recognition problems, I still have a hard time jumping a battery.

[The_Toecutter]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')mmmm.....no need for me to lie about a test I took 12 years ago. I specifically remember my school counselor relaying my score to me. If any of you would like, I could probably look him up, have him scan the test in and post it online.