[AgentR]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', 'B')ottem line is do you think the Replicans will sweap congress? If the Republicans loose then this conspiracy is nothing but a lie.

[nwildmand]

i originally wrote this up in neos timewasting "po members are timewasters thread" before the thread disappeared but it is just as relevant here.



$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'Y')ou better get a dictionary buddy.

[Mesuge]

Pelosi is the enemy from within that's clear.
I just can't stand that stupid #$#%#, eh person.

What is also clear with very high scientific probability is that 2000 and 2004 were stolen. The discrepancy between exit polls and actual results around 5% has not been meassured anywhere in the world before and after those US elections. It's a scientific conclusion, deal with it.

That doesn't mean the B team: Gore and nazi Lieberman or later Kerry would make a substantial difference in comparison to the bushevics..

[Specop_007]

I love watching people get alll worked up about the whole "Stolen election!" idea.

Its most humorous.

[AgentR]

I just find it funny that people would trust an exit poll, which is subject to a large amount of surveyed group self-selection and avoidance, and then has to be balanced with statistical weighting according to self reported datapoints; vs something that conceivably could count each and every vote individually.

Exit polls are moderately useful for news media guys who need a reasonable guestimate and reassurance that things are going as anticipated. They suck royally when vote totals are close.

[Mesuge]

For fact challenged individuals, precision of exit polls is used in many countries to announce the winners, the final count usually just rubber stamps the results or decides very narrow elections (less then 1%).

That's how it works in Germany, Bulgaria or Iran. It's very amusing that the areas plagued with problems are places like Ohio, New Mexico etc..

To call the election system in the US basically a 3rd world standard would be still very polite evaluation..

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Since this has been explained in the material covered by this very thread one can assume that such an incurious flat earthism is indeed a very powerfull type of mindset given we are already on the page #2

[Zentric]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR', 'I') just find it funny that people would trust an exit poll, which is subject to a large amount of surveyed group self-selection and avoidance, and then has to be balanced with statistical weighting according to self reported datapoints; vs something that conceivably could count each and every vote individually.

Exit polls are moderately useful for news media guys who need a reasonable guestimate and reassurance that things are going as anticipated. They suck royally when vote totals are close.

[AgentR]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zentric', 'S')peaking of which, I'm still waiting for you to answer the question I asked on where I also posed that you are a waster of other peoples' time. Let's here back from you on this.

[NEOPO]

nwildmand wrote:a bunch of shit.
Heres a new word for you billy bob:Ad hominem

Thats hilarious - only at PO.COM would someone feebly attempt to say someone like LorenzHO is a dissident!!!
ahahahah why does the almighty constantly point these people in my direction?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'i') like having lorenzo around, he puts his best effort forth espousing biofuels only to have his arguments crushed over and over again. he is helping our side. the rebuttals to his arguments have only made me more doomeristic.

[Gridlock]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') just find it funny that people would trust an exit poll,

[AgentR]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Mesuge', 'T')hat's how it works in Germany, Bulgaria or Iran. It's very amusing that the areas plagued with problems are places like Ohio, New Mexico etc..

[nwildmand]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'A')d hominem

[NEOPO]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 't')hat because you still dont understand. i have said nothing in your thread pertaining to deibold.... your just avoiding my questions.

[nwildmand]

very weak of you neo. you hijack threads with your CT crap everyday.

is that another thing only commies are alowed to do?

[NEOPO]

WILDMAN
i just realized this stuff a few short weeks ago.

hijack?
what you and rwwff do is exactly that billy bob.

aw you mean where someone says something about voting and I say diebold?

aw you mean where someone like biofuels lorenzo your "buddy" constantly spews biofuel dreams and caviar wishes and I call him an idiot?

PMS AND ME- You dont know the history and you dont want to know - stand down soldier!!

Just because I am picking up on it and you happen to relate to these turds does not mean I am wrong bily bob.

Now dont go away mad - just go away
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my..... just look at all those links to pissed off disenfranchised voters.
google - diebold+election+fraud

yep - that man is not our president - come out of the white house with your hands up!!!!

[AgentR]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'h')ijack?
what you and rwwff do is exactly that billy bob.
aw you mean where someone says something about voting and I say diebold?

[evilgenius]

Don't forget this works both ways. With the NSA computing power at their disposal the Repugnicans can chose which seats to hand to the Dems. Having turned over only those seats in districts where because of their snooping they know the base is more conservative they guarantee a Repugnican sweep in '08. All they have to do is encourage the Dems to be a little liberal. That would be enough to piss off those constituencies. It would especially cater to my theory that the Repugnicans plan on laying the mess after we withdraw from Iraq at the Dems door. The newly elected Dems, not being enough (funny that) to impeach, will secondarily choose to leave Iraq. The Repugnicans can easily make Iraq boil over at that point and say to the people, "see what happens when you leave us strong talkers and listen to a bunch of pussies." Of course the fools won't be able to leave Iraq alone at that point. They will go back in thinking to show the country their strength. That is when the reckoning will come.

[JustinFrankl]

I found it unusual that in two of the videos, they make the claim that access to very few voting machines (typically only one, the central tabulator, or through a virus that would infect the tabulator) would be necessary to steal an election. The elections would be typically stolen 51-49.

But then the Votergate video seems to advise everyone to just go out and vote, with little attention being paid to investigating the voting process, under the guise of "the more people who vote, the harder it is to steal an election", which two of the videos refute rather well.

For a half hour video entitled "Votergate", they spent a lot of time showing what a great mom that lady was, how much fun she had driving around to different states, but they couldn't spare 30 seconds for:
- These are the things to do before election day, on the day of the election, and after the election to ensure an accurate vote ...
- These are the things you can do to request manual tallies and paper ballots ...
- These are the things you can do to avoid having to drop trou and bend over ...

Instead what we got was:

"Keep your eyes and ears open on election day!"
"Be a soldier and march to the ballot box!"
"The electorate needs to be electrified!"
"Everyone needs to get out and vote!"

which are such weak, unspecific, vague, and pathetic warnings and admonitions that they might as well be

"Drink responsibly!"
or
"Think before you drink!"

The more people who vote in a two-person race, the greater the statistical likelihood that results will be nearer to a middle 50-50, making a 51-49 steal even easier and less suspicious.

The Princeton U video was good. So was the programmer's testimony. Votergate is a sham, the suggestions on the website are similarly weak. The video was made by people who are probably actually concerned, but likely backed and directed by a handler, so that nothing substantive or significant actually gets done ...

... except to herd the sheep into the election booths.

edit: it used to be I couldn't spell 'programmer', now I are one

[NEOPO]

well you know people can know the truth yet still pretend they do not i.e. PEAK OIL and denial.

Sure these vid's are not backed and produced by paramount or such.
Yep the message might be the wrong message.

Yet and ultimately its an eye opener for a slumbering nation hopefully.
I am left with the feeling that the republic has died and my vote WILL NOT count either way.
I think about kerry in 2004 and now I dont think we had a choice wether the fix was on or not.

I think what they expect is 65%-0 70%+ percent of the people to show up - people vote democrat and then see a huge part of the population realize the truth...the rest I will leave to imagination........

The Videos on the first page of this thread speak for themselves.

[dukey]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... feed&hl=en