[Guest]

This article paints it in a very cute way, some would scream something else....Either way FUNNY .

http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo. ... id=5360388

[The_Virginian]

FUNnny alright, kinda like a kick to the head funny. And here I thought the EU would be a Free trade zone. Why not just give pets a signed vet paper saying they got rabies shots?

Why a passport?

Cute picture, but sounds fishy to me.

[savethehumans]

I wanna see SNOOPY'S passport! And Woodstock's, if you can make one small and light enough to fit under a wing....

[gg3]

I see. And do I need a passport for my pet fish Eric?*







*special prize for anyone who gets the reference:-)

[Guest]

This is not a joke or funny, but the article misrepresents the facts.

It is not just a rabies thing, but also covers many other diseases that can be transmitted by animals. The word "passport" is misleading. It is a full medical history of the animal, with all types of vaccination, including the labels from the vaccines, showing the batch number. This document must be positively related to the animal, hence the microchip or tattooed number in the ear. Even though my dog has never travelled outside this country, he has his "passport" which was supplied free by the vet, as part of his general treatment.

The big advantage is in the control of strays. If an animal is caught with a tattoo or microchip ID, his owner can be contacted and the animal returned. Without ID, he will likely be put down after a few days, because strays are an unholy nuisance. It is also useful for breeding purposes, to ensure the sires and dams are pedigree and have the CACIB certification.

You Americans may think it funny, but, overall, it is a gret improvement in animal welfare.

[giengreen]

Well that's the problem, we Americans think it's funny because we read it in a EUROPEAN article that paints a cute and fuzzy picture of it all.


Of course having to chip your animals (thank you for the info.) is not funny to me. To me it speaks of a greater issue to come, the chipping of Humans....

[Guest]

I'm all for chipping humans. The practical advantage is ginormous. No ID, no driving licence, no credit cards, medical history instantaneously available, even when the patient is unconscious, criminal history instantaneously available, open sesame to all places where you have the right to access and shut sesame if you have no right to access. Your chip would even replace your car keys, and how many times have you got to the car only to remember you left the keys on the telephone table?

I would make a proviso. The chip would carry ONLY your ID number, so that the access to confidential info based on that number will remain ONLY with those authorised to do so and ONLY the info relevant to his/her professional needs.

[Giengreen]

Oh good.

For you the whip is entirely appropriate.

People in high positions will difine your rights as we see fit (not "Peers"). Those who have access to your info will include airline stewardeses, orderlies, gas station attendents (are you a criminal?), teachers, and other newly empowered taskmasters. Once this system has legs...the total SECURISTAN statre will be achieved.

This is going to be most enjoyable.

So yes sit back and relax whilst I massage your memory...

[k_semler]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Anonymous', 'I')'m all for chipping humans. The practical advantage is enormous. No ID, no driving licence, no credit cards, medical history instantaneously available, even when the patient is unconscious, criminal history instantaneously available, open sesame to all places where you have the right to access and shut sesame if you have no right to access. Your chip would even replace your car keys, and how many times have you got to the car only to remember you left the keys on the telephone table?

I would make a proviso. The chip would carry ONLY your ID number, so that the access to confidential info based on that number will remain ONLY with those authorized to do so and ONLY the info relevant to his/her professional needs.

[Guest]

That is a total non sequitur. Please explain to me how a chip bearing a number is a constitutional violation, any more than having a passport number or a social security number or an IRS number or a driver's license number or a number as a member of the armed forces or any other ID number or a bank account number or a credit card number? The only difference is that you won't have to remember it!

All the chip number will do is to allow those authorised to do so to find your file in a data base relevant to their duties, just the same as if you give the same person the appropriate number orally or in writing. Nothing more nor nothing less. It increases security a hundred-fold in many ways, while reducing lines at such places as airports, because you would simply walk past a reader, a computer would either open a gate or keep it closed, according to whether your number is whitelisted or blacklisted in immigration's data base. Much more reliable than a bloke trying to match your face to a photo and no need for the controversial biometrics.

No, I'm all for it. Provided each serrvice has its own data base, it would be a great advance.

[k_semler]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Anonymous', 'T')hat is a total non sequitur. Please explain to me how a chip bearing a number is a constitutional violation, any more than having a passport number or a social security number or an IRS number or a driver's license number or a number as a member of the armed forces or any other ID number or a bank account number or a credit card number? The only difference is that you won't have to remember it!

[Guest]

I've rarely heard such a rant of utter bullshit in all my life

[k_semler]

Then appearently you have not read enough case studies regarding the constitutinality of various matters. Also, it is better to question the motives, (and act with physical force if nessecary), of the individuals promoting such technology with this type of totalitarian potential. As Patrick Henry stated March 23, 1776 "Give me liberty, or give me death!"

You, on the other hand, would probably sell your right to privacy for a 10% discount off all purchases. Those who are willing to auction off thier liberty to the highest bidder, do not deserve the liberty that they have been granted. Your rights may be debatable to yourself, but mine are not, and I will fight to the death to protect them. I will not be assimilated by the communists and facists gradually taking down this nation.