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A Modest Proposal

Unread postby WebHubbleTelescope » Wed 04 Oct 2006, 00:46:08

How to control WMD's: A Plan

So the Neocons started with a plan, a plan theoretical on paper and untested in practice. The Neocons now actually have lots of plans, all likely doomed to failure.

Then we read this:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')url=http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060928/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_audiotape;_ylt=Aiwjc08l6oAL9HjGTOn_1cSs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3OTB1amhuBHNlYwNtdHM-]Iraq terrorist calls scientists to jihad[/url]

Al-Qaida-in-Iraq's leader, in a chilling audiotape released Thursday, called for nuclear scientists to join his group's holy war and urged insurgents to kidnap Westerners so they could be traded for a blind Egyptian sheik who is serving a life sentence in a U.S. prison.

The fugitive terror chief said experts in the fields of "chemistry, physics, electronics, media and all other sciences — especially nuclear scientists and explosives experts" should join his group's jihad, or holy war, against the West.


So's I've got my own plan, played around in my mind and show-room-floor modeled in this post (and here). Rather concisely, my plan involves targetting all the scientists and engineers in fundamentalist, rapture-ready societies for special attention. I see the danger as too great and the consequences too dire for us to sit back and allow the leaders of these countries to try to advance their nuclear weapons capability. So the special attention I recommend involves a combination of (1) scaring the bat-sh*t out of every engineer that dares to get involved in the work and/or (2) actually rooting those people out with whatever means at our disposal.

I base my plan on the premise that engineers and scientists everywhere have enough technical acumen and awareness to understand current events. I presume some fraction of these educated folks would quickly comprehend that the civilized world has placed a huge bounty on their heads and would act accordingly. As an engineer myself, and associating with other engineers for years, I know that cowards and self-centered bastards fill our ranks -- independent of country of origin. The minute they get wind of Western society's plans to eliminate their line of work, entire development teams would start to disintegrate. They would quickly disperse like sheets to the wind. I find it hard to believe that the remaining engineers, no matter how intense their jihadist beliefs, could continue building nuclear weapons in their basement.

It really would not take much effort to throw a huge wrench in the works of any fundie-ruled country if we put such a plan in place. Why bomb a weapons plant when you could easily accomplish the same thing with psy-ops and special forces?

I could put the shoe on the other foot, and think how this would effect me if we turn the tables, and I and my fellow American engineers and scientists became targetted for the same treatment. Echoing Bush, I would say "bring it on". Deep down I believe that technologists that don't pursue rapture-relief objectives have a bit more cajones to stay the course. The other side would sooner piss their pants than support a cause that all their education contraindicates.

Guarantee that if we put such a plan in place, our fear of weapons of mass destruction (at least of the nuclear kind) would soon dissipate. Put the producers of the TV show 24 in charge, give them some funding, and we needn't worry. High tech weapons such as these do not exist without a stable cadre of well-educated technologists running the show. We could then start worrying about nuclear-equipped places like Pakistan that have ambiguous motivations for keeping their arsenal.

And before anyone criticizes my plan, just consider how much the Neocons have accomplished with their own brilliant plans. Not.

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Re: A Modest Proposal

Unread postby Lawmage » Wed 04 Oct 2006, 02:42:02

I like it but I suspect the rank and file here at Peak Oil will soundly lambast you for daring to suggest the use of violence in an effort to stop violent men...Good luck though.
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Re: A Modest Proposal

Unread postby Cloud9 » Wed 04 Oct 2006, 07:00:04

Kill all the scientist. Seems rather Luddite to me.
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Re: A Modest Proposal

Unread postby Aaron » Wed 04 Oct 2006, 07:05:01

1984
The problem is, of course, that not only is economics bankrupt, but it has always been nothing more than politics in disguise... economics is a form of brain damage.

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Re: A Modest Proposal

Unread postby Lawmage » Wed 04 Oct 2006, 07:14:43

Not sure I would call it Luddite. The plan is not predicated on opposition to science per se or to scientists but rather on specific individuals engaged in specif risky behaviors. Would you consider a plan to target chemists working with drug traffickers to be Luddite in outlook?
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Re: A Modest Proposal

Unread postby perdition79 » Wed 04 Oct 2006, 14:15:06

The title of this thread, "A Modest Proposal", had me reaching for the steak sauce. Thanks for the letdown.
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Re: A Modest Proposal

Unread postby Carlhole » Wed 04 Oct 2006, 14:32:54

Not simply insane, embarassingly insane.
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Re: A Modest Proposal

Unread postby The_Toecutter » Wed 04 Oct 2006, 19:46:12

The real problem doesn't rest with engineers and scientists, but with the politicians, bureaucrats, business executives, and lawyers who abuse and exploit them on a daily basis.
The unnecessary felling of a tree, perhaps the old growth of centuries, seems to me a crime little short of murder. ~Thomas Jefferson
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Re: A Modest Proposal

Unread postby WebHubbleTelescope » Wed 04 Oct 2006, 21:37:43

A few of you picked up on the Jonathan Swift title. I had to let that out of my system as I see the threat of loose nukes much scarier than the conventional threats and random school shootings. I had seen at least one commenter at TOD come up with the same premise and thought it interesting as a trial balloon, especially in light of Al Queda's recruitment of scientists. I really question whether the call to arms will gain much strength, as burying your head in technical work interferes with praying on your hands and knees to the holy land 100-times a day.

In the end I guess we can gain comfort knowing we are in the capable hands of Darth Cheney.
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Re: A Modest Proposal

Unread postby mekrob » Thu 05 Oct 2006, 01:30:44

This title as well made me think of Swift and the only idea that crossed my mind as to what the post could be about was a new process in which Irish children are turned into oil. But then I read it's about WMD's and now I have to cancel my Hummer. O well
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Re: A Modest Proposal

Unread postby max_power29 » Thu 05 Oct 2006, 03:59:09

the Neocons love WMD. Why would they want to limit them? I mean there arent even enough WMDs for the Neocons already so they have to lie about them/make them up.

For rich people War=more money and more power. They would not do anything to decrease the amount of war no matter how crazy or sane the ideas to decrease the amount of war are.
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Re: A Modest Proposal

Unread postby The_Toecutter » Thu 05 Oct 2006, 04:03:50

If our government can have certain weapons, then so should I. It's what our founders intended when they acknowledged in that constitution our right to bear arms.

If our government doesn't want people with assault rifles in their possession? The government should lead by example and not have any in their arsenal should they seek to restrict private ownership. I feel the exact same way about WMDs, including nuclear weapons. If the people have no business having it, then neither does their government.
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