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Re: Stop Drinking Coke

Unread postby qwerty » Thu 28 Sep 2006, 22:42:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EndOfSewers', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('uNkNowN ElEmEnt', 'b')ack on topic though:... kinda, I hear that aspartame is bad on the sex drive. it fills you with so much toxin and makes you generally ill. I also heard that it can make you fat because your body stores fat top dilute the toxins.


This is comedy gold right here. Whoever you heard this from needs a punch in the nuts for being so stupid, and whoever believes it needs the same for being so gullible. Also a few courses in physiology and biochemistry so they'll have enough knowledge to recognize rank, gibbering horse shit when they hear it. Which would save them from deserving a punch in the nuts.


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OPEN up your eyelids and SHUT your trap.
Start reading and quit yapping...
There is no respect in being a spokemans for the EVIL SATANIC COKE Co. and no honor in talking fictional shit...

COKE EVIL

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')oca-Cola Declares War on Water

Your body needs water, and lots of it! But if you're drinking water, according to the way Coca-Cola once thought, you're not drinking a Coke, and that's bad for business. The solution? Declare war on water.

August, 2001: Coca-Cola announces the launch of an assault against tap water in restaurants, code-named "H2No." (No, I'm not making this up...) They begin with the Olive Garden restaurants, describing customers' ordering of water as a kind of affliction. From their own site, "Olive Garden restaurants... were facing a high water incidence rate." (emphasis added).

A "high water incidence rate?" Sounds bad, doesn't it? Sounds like an insidious anthrax attack. To combat this threat, they came up with their "water reduction plan." This plan involved the re-education of waiters to suggest a "profitable beverage" in place of water. Olive Garden restaurants, according to the Coke site, liked the program so much that they incorporated it into their monthly skills training exercises. "Here's a new skill, folks, we're going to force all our customer to order a coke before they die of thirst..."

Believe it or not, they even developed an employee incentive contest, based on how much Coke the restaurant servers could get customers to drink. The program was called, "Just Say No to H2O" and it's sort of like a college frat game where you see how much beer you can get the new pledges to drink in one night, without actually killing them. (Because if they're dead, you can't force them to clean up the frat house the next morning...)

If it sounds like madness, you're right! Giving consumers a choice of drinks is considered polite; declaring war on water is something altogether different. The slogans chosen by Coca-Cola weren't pro-Coke, they were anti-water. "Just Say No to H2O" sounds sort of like the cry of a political rally. Just imagine a herd of overweight Coca-cola executives marching around outside Olive Garden restaurants, holding up signs and declaring that water is actually BAD for you.

As waiters were selling more Coke to customers, profits were flowing into the restaurants -- and into Coca-Cola's coffers -- but what about the health cost of drinking soft drinks? It is well known that consumption of soft drinks is a strong contributing factor in obesity -- a condition that, according to former Surgeon General David Satcher, causes 300,000 deaths each year and $117 billion in unnecessary health bills from diseases like diabetes and clogged arteries. Heck, that's almost as much as Coca-cola spends on advertising and celebrity endorsements! "Hi, I'm a well known sports celebrity with the brain of a naked mole rat. And I drink Coke!"

Today, there's really no question that soft drink consumption directly promotes a variety of chronic diseases. For starters, here's evidence of how soft drink consumption multiplies a person's risk of diabetes. (See http://www.newstarget.com/001614.html for a summary.)

And just this year, new research was published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition linking the consumption of high-fructose corn syrup (the primary sweetener in soft drinks) with both diabetes and obesity: http://www.newstarget.com/001054.html

Clearly, soft drinks are a hazard to the health of any individual (intelligent or otherwise) who chooses to consume them. Some of the other health effects now being attributed to soft drinks include loss of bone density, blood acidosis, kidney stress, immune system suppression, ADHD and even dramatic mood swings -- these are the claims by well-known health and nutrition authors, including many prominent MDs.

As the profits flow into Coca-Cola, who pays the cost for the health effects caused by Coca-Cola products? You guessed it: you do. The consumer foots the bill not only for the product, but also for the doctor, hospital and insurance costs that inevitably appear as a result of consuming this health-harming beverage. I'm just guessing, but for every dollar a person spends on soft drinks, there might be as much as $4 - $5 in long-term costs to society.

Not surprisingly, Coca-Cola's "H2No" web pages didn't stay on their site for very long. They were taken down on August 2, 2001 and haven't re-appeared since. Apparently, they no longer want to be known as the "anti-water" company. Because that would be, well, stupid. More importantly, it would go against their brand spankin' new product offering -- get this -- water!


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')oke: the drink of a dumbed-down population

All I can say is that the lower your IQ, the more likely you are to consume large quantities of soft drinks. In my opinion, coke is the drink of the dumbed-down; the elixir of ignorance, the beverage of boneheads. Smart people drink far more sophisticated drinks -- like Starbucks coffee. (And you can tell they're smart by how they happily pay four bucks for a fifty-cent cup of java.) And the really smart people in society drink red wine. Did I say smart? I meant snotty.

Regardless, Coca-Cola maintains a prominent place in American history. It's pure Americana. After all, what could better describe American culture than a heavily marketed beverage originally based on hard drugs that now contributes to the diabetes and obesity of an entire nation? It's the classic American saga: a lean, healthy immigrant comes to America, settles down in the Bronx, starts buying soft drinks, and pretty soon gives birth to an entire generation of overweight children who chug coke and occasionally get outside to participate in the "Walk for the Diabetes Cure," also sponsored by coke.

What could be more American than that?
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Re: Stop Drinking Coke

Unread postby EndOfSewers » Thu 28 Sep 2006, 23:05:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('qwerty', '
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OPEN up your eyelids and SHUT your trap.
Start reading and quit yapping...
There is no respect in being a spokemans for the EVIL SATANIC COKE Co. and no honor in talking fictional shit...


Reading comprehension is hard, isn't it qwerty? I wasn't talking about Coca-Cola's business practices or what they do in 3rd world countries. I was specifically talking about the "aspartame is poison" bullshit, and the marvelous idea that the body will pack on bodyfat to "dilute the toxin".

If you'd like to argue that aspartame, in sane and rational amounts not 1000X the amount any real person would consume, is in fact a poison, then feel free to present your data. Real studies from PubMed, not hysterical media articles. I await your incisive response.
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Re: Stop Drinking Coke

Unread postby qwerty » Thu 28 Sep 2006, 23:08:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EndOfSewers', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('qwerty', '
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OPEN up your eyelids and SHUT your trap.
Start reading and quit yapping...
There is no respect in being a spokemans for the EVIL SATANIC COKE Co. and no honor in talking fictional shit...


Reading comprehension is hard, isn't it qwerty? I wasn't talking about Coca-Cola's business practices or what they do in 3rd world countries. I was specifically talking about the "aspartame is poison" bullshit, and the marvelous idea that the body will pack on bodyfat to "dilute the toxin".

If you'd like to argue that aspartame, in sane and rational amounts not 1000X the amount any real person would consume, is in fact a poison, then feel free to present your data. Real studies from PubMed, not hysterical media articles. I await your incisive response.



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Re: Stop Drinking Coke

Unread postby uNkNowN ElEmEnt » Thu 28 Sep 2006, 23:28:16

Even ad a prison guard in a super maximum male remand center, I never resorted topunching a guy in the nuts (or kicking for that matter). Good heavens!

Everything is bad for you if you take too much of it in. but when you consider the toxic dosing we are getting from all the chemicals in our environment and daily life its not like you are only ingesting/absorbing one chemical like a little rat in a lab.

There are 75,000 new chemicals on the market since th esecond world war. Of those, the EPA only has the toxic effects on 4,500 of those (in 1980) on humans. You do realize that humans don't react the same to certain chemicals than even our closest biological counter parts right?

In a 1980 report to the US President by the Toxic Substances Strategy Committee it was revealed that classified studies showed that 80-90% of all cancers are caused by chemicals you use in your home, not industrial chemicals, they mean the ones under you kitchen cupboard. A woman who works in the home is 3-5 times more likely to get cancer than someone who works outside the house.

So who's gullible? and who needs to look things up? Everything can be bad for you, once you are born, you start dying so WTF. Now who needs to get laid?
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Re: Stop Drinking Coke

Unread postby EndOfSewers » Thu 28 Sep 2006, 23:36:31

Yeah, dorway.com is a REALLY valid reference. There have been almost a thousand studies on aspartame; posting links carefully chosen by the dorway nutters doesn't exactly constitute a real review of the data.

Reread what I posted about correlation does not equal causation, and about dosage, etc. Any nutbar with an agenda can pick one thing (in this case, aspartame), and correlate it with any number of conditions. Also realize that rodent studies have a tenuous connection at best with what happens in humans. Anyone can have a reaction to a food additive of any kind, and there are conditions such as phenylketonuria which definitely preclude aspartame intake. This does not mean that aspartame is toxic, and I'll repeat myself because you seem to have trouble with this, in sane and realistic doses. By the way, you don't seem to know that aspartame is composed of two common amino acids, aspartate and phenylalanine. Any time you eat something containing protein you are getting far more of these substances than you could ever get from consuming aspartame.

Now this time actually go to pubmed and read for yourself instead of just regurgitating nonsense fed to you by a special interest group.
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Re: Stop Drinking Coke

Unread postby qwerty » Thu 28 Sep 2006, 23:57:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EndOfSewers', 'Y')eah, dorway.com is a REALLY valid reference. There have been almost a thousand studies on aspartame; posting links carefully chosen by the dorway nutters doesn't exactly constitute a real review of the data.

Reread what I posted about correlation does not equal causation, and about dosage, etc. Any nutbar with an agenda can pick one thing (in this case, aspartame), and correlate it with any number of conditions. Also realize that rodent studies have a tenuous connection at best with what happens in humans. Anyone can have a reaction to a food additive of any kind, and there are conditions such as phenylketonuria which definitely preclude aspartame intake. This does not mean that aspartame is toxic, and I'll repeat myself because you seem to have trouble with this, in sane and realistic doses. By the way, you don't seem to know that aspartame is composed of two common amino acids, aspartate and phenylalanine. Any time you eat something containing protein you are getting far more of these substances than you could ever get from consuming aspartame.

Now this time actually go to pubmed and read for yourself instead of just regurgitating nonsense fed to you by a special interest group.


No, YOU can eat all the aspartame you want EndOfSewers,
in fact its better that you DO. it just pisses me off that evil doers like you wish to misinform others, to purposely harm the health of other people who do NOT wish to end up dead like you.

I could care less what you ate, I am clearing up the BS and misinformation that HYPOCRITES and DEVILs like you wish to use to confuse innocent unknowning individuals, giving them a false sense of assurance, an empty 'security' to yeah go ahead and eat and consume all these deadly toxic chemicals and don't bother eating natural healthy organic genuine foods..... yeah EndOfSewers, go ahead and spill your shit...... I could care less.

So those of you reading this beware, beware of COKE, beware of Sugar, beware of artificial shit like aspartame, and most of all beware of Weapons of Mass Disinformation and people like EndOfSewers. These are the DEVIL. Stay FAR FAR AWAY. for your own good....
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Re: Stop Drinking Coke

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Fri 29 Sep 2006, 00:07:56

And HAMBURGERS! VILE, WICKED!!!!!!!! You can eat all the hamburgers you want you filthy piece of HUMAN SCUM! You should be dragged behind a Hummer for SIX BLOCKS you degenerate EVIL DEVIL! By CHAINS! And Pickles! You know how much SALT they put in pickles? One pickle has enough salt for an entire African family for three years! Do you know HOW MUCH WATER you have to drink to counteract all that salt and keep from DYING of hypertension? IT'S ENOUGH WATER TO DRAIN THREE WELLS in India that privide water for HUNDREDS OF FAMILIES! All for a little flavor indulgence while eating your WICKED Hamburger. SATAN!
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Re: Stop Drinking Coke

Unread postby EndOfSewers » Fri 29 Sep 2006, 00:18:24

Yes, PubMed and peer reviewed studies are weapons of mass disinformation.

Looks like poor qwerty got the homozygous recessive critical-thinking gene.
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Re: Stop Drinking Coke

Unread postby BlisteredWhippet » Fri 29 Sep 2006, 01:04:04

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Re: Stop Drinking Coke

Unread postby lateralus » Fri 29 Sep 2006, 01:11:48

If Coke is bad does that make Pepsi good?
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Re: Stop Drinking Coke

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Fri 29 Sep 2006, 01:16:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lateralus', 'I')f Coke is bad does that make Pepsi good?
No, Coke and Pepsi are the TWO HORN'S OF THE DEVIL! RC Cola is good. And Dr. Pepper.
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Re: Stop Drinking Coke

Unread postby BlisteredWhippet » Fri 29 Sep 2006, 03:16:54

My dad is trying to lose weight by forcing his body to glean moisture from a mixture of water, carbon dioxide, artificial flavor and color.

He still looks like a sack of potatoes.

He is an addict. Addicted to the concept that everything he puts in his mouth must be SWEET.

Water is so BORING, he says.

I suggest he work out by lifting weights.

Its BORING he says.
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Re: Stop Drinking Coke

Unread postby nwildmand » Fri 29 Sep 2006, 04:31:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('uNkNowN ElEmEnt', 'E')ven though holmes and I are close geographically, it would never work, see my great grandma was a JEW.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('uNkNowN ElEmEnt', 'I')t seems I do, I was sure you were one of those white supremacist guys.


i had the same thoughts myself. allthough i knew you were way off on the jew part... holmes has defended his jew friends on a couple of occasions. he has said he would fight for them. i would have had no idea that he shares their blood though.

if it makes you feel any better, i feel the jews should have as much of the middle east as they see fit, they are more deserving.

on another note. my first name is totally semitic and my last name i share with the jews also, though it is also german like myself. i did not know that until this year. who knows??? i may have some jew blood myself!

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('uNkNowN ElEmEnt', 'I')nfact, I totally agreed with the majority of your posts, thought you were quite articulate and made good points


yes he does, it seems he has changed his tune a little lately. holmes... please dont lose your pseudoneurotic rants, they are priceless.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('uNkNowN ElEmEnt', ' ')except for when you would go off about non-whites.


its not non whites.... its the certain arab population that will always exist that wants to convert the world by any/all means necessary. this realization tends to get a person worked up.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('uNkNowN ElEmEnt', 'I') have to admit I like provoking people at times too.

who doesnt? im sorry if i have offended you... im prone to speak my mind. it pisses people off when one has views like mine, but it makes them think.... wrong or right, good or bad. like that statement you found the need to respond to earlier in this thread, it made you think.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('uNkNowN ElEmEnt', 'I') like this format because then people react to my words not to how I look or how big my hooters are. :-)

so you are hot :roll:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('holmes', 'W')ell PMS and I have always liked u. ; - ) and it looks like the wildman does too! hahahaha.

holmes, my brother.. nice jab. i do like her also. very level headed... though i believe she holds back on her thoughts/feelings/opinions. unfortunately uNkNowN ElEmEnt knows my fascist qualitys and it skews her opinion of me. she thinks i am evil. i dont blame her but she knows not of the good thing i do in real life.

i bet if she knew i help a little old lady and a legless nam vet with their gardens, canning, household repairs in a selfless fashion she would think different of me regardless of my beliefs.

thats just a few of the many things. i am known for being there for people in the real world.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('holmes', 'I') dont mean a Lot of what I say. I say it to either get panties in a bunch or to defend the herd. ; - )

holmes, i know that. amd i can tell the difference unlike many around here. but know this, i am a very serious in all my posts here. it scares people like unknown. you know the feeling. i will retract nothing i have said here unless proven wrong. that being said i will finish this post quoting myself.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('nwildmand', 's')oft drinks are part of the consumeristic whore culture. i gave up drinking them years ago. i have only had 3 soft drinks this year.

keep being a whore, your part of the problem.

what a rant, i think i was being a little to defensive.
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Re: Stop Drinking Coke

Unread postby jupiters_release » Fri 29 Sep 2006, 04:38:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EndOfSewers', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jupiters_release', '[')How well will that coke taste after I tell you aspartame was developed as a neurotoxic warfare agent during WW II?


How stupid do you feel for believing such utter bullshit? Seriously, do you believe every bit of woo-woo crap you read on the internet? The stuff you posted from the anti-aspartame nutter group is absolutely laughable. Repeat after me: correlation does NOT equal causation. Oil prices have also risen dramatically since the introduction of aspartame. Aspartame must be responsible for peak oil!



Reading is fundamental. If you click on the thumbnails in my previous post you can start learning. The article has never been posted on the internet until I scanned it myself from an Ecologist (http://www.theecologist.org/) magazine last year.

Overcoming fear and ignorance go hand in hand. It's never too late to stop ingesting aspartame and conventional gmo chemical food, until TSHTF that is.

I myself have mercury exposure ten fold of a person without amalgam dental fillings but cursing the next man isn't going to solve that problem.

Try being a little more constructive eh?
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Re: Stop Drinking Coke

Unread postby jupiters_release » Fri 29 Sep 2006, 04:44:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'A')nd HAMBURGERS! VILE, WICKED!!!!!!!! You can eat all the hamburgers you want you filthy piece of HUMAN SCUM! You should be dragged behind a Hummer for SIX BLOCKS you degenerate EVIL DEVIL! By CHAINS! And Pickles! You know how much SALT they put in pickles? One pickle has enough salt for an entire African family for three years! Do you know HOW MUCH WATER you have to drink to counteract all that salt and keep from DYING of hypertension? IT'S ENOUGH WATER TO DRAIN THREE WELLS in India that privide water for HUNDREDS OF FAMILIES! All for a little flavor indulgence while eating your WICKED Hamburger. SATAN!


What are you on about? Organic hamburgers are very healthy.

Calm down please no need to shout.
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Re: Stop Drinking Coke

Unread postby nwildmand » Fri 29 Sep 2006, 04:50:35

its called sarcasim jupiter.
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Re: Stop Drinking Coke

Unread postby Doly » Fri 29 Sep 2006, 06:20:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'D')o you know HOW MUCH WATER you have to drink to counteract all that salt and keep from DYING of hypertension? IT'S ENOUGH WATER TO DRAIN THREE WELLS in India that privide water for HUNDREDS OF FAMILIES! All for a little flavor indulgence while eating your WICKED Hamburger. SATAN!


Sarcasm aside, raising beef needs lots of water. So much that if California stopped eating hamburgers, their water problems would disappear.
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Re: Stop Drinking Coke

Unread postby mjdlight » Fri 29 Sep 2006, 09:16:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', '
')Sarcasm aside, raising beef needs lots of water. So much that if California stopped eating hamburgers, their water problems would disappear.


How dare you even suggest a restriction in our sacred freedoms, you pinkofrenchenviro-nutjesushater?! We are entitled to everything we ever want, always and forever. Nothing less. That is God's will, for us to establish hegemony over the rest of the world to service our needs. If we need more water, we'll buy, borrow, or steal it.

Sincerely,

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Re: Stop Drinking Coke

Unread postby EndOfSewers » Fri 29 Sep 2006, 09:20:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BlisteredWhippet', 'I') suggest he work out by lifting weights.

Its BORING he says.

Somehow you must convince him to work out. Then release bear or maybe a swarm of African bees into the gym, and laugh maniacally while screaming "ARE YOU STTILL BORED!!!"
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Re: Stop Drinking Coke

Unread postby EndOfSewers » Fri 29 Sep 2006, 09:27:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jupiters_release', 'R')eading is fundamental. If you click on the thumbnails in my previous post you can start learning. The article has never been posted on the internet until I scanned it myself from an Ecologist (http://www.theecologist.org/) magazine last year.


Your info is still just as false no matter what rag you scanned it from. Aspartame was developed by accident in 1965, during the manufacture of an anti-ulcer medication.

As for being constructive, I've told people where to find real data, not media blurbs and incoherent propaganda, told them of a few things to watch out for when evaluating that data, and generally encouraged the use of their critical faculties. Seems constructive enough to me. If I've also included my opinion on such lazy thinking as the True Believers like to indulge in, well that's just my style.
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