[nwildmand]

Raphael,

its only a forum, when one truly expresses himself you will attract much attention.

and im drunk.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raphael', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'T')here definately is a connection between smoking grass and not remembering dreams.

[Matrim]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')ey Matrim. Yes it is nice to remember dreams. Maybe instead of thinking of stop smoking permanently, you could just give it a rest for a week or two now and then.

[PenultimateManStanding]

Matrim, I think that when people smoke grass almost daily for decades of their lives, they wind up losing a lot. For some, like the ones I know, they get kind of dried out, wasted, empty. kind of zombiefied. lights are on, but nobody home. There are all kinds of medications that say "for occasional use only". I would say that if one likes the stuff, that it should definately be in that category. Another effect of long-term use is the kind displayed by Raph. it's a sort of deluded mental deterioration, a peculiar "craziness". Ten more years going down that road and he's going to be ready for the rubber room. He's not there yet, but I don't think the human mind is really meant for a lifetime of being stoned.

[AirlinePilot]

Some quotes for Raphael to think a bit harder about.....

"Namaste, how I always sign off means the spirit in me respects the spirit in you."

I think if that were really true you would not spout the drivel that follows.......

"The anti-pot smoker is a fool.
You are the fools who cannot see through the haze."

"PMS I have done enough travelling in my 49 years to see America for the failure and imposter she is. The sooner America implodes the sooner the world gets better. "

"Bad people doing bad things to good people...no not the crooks...your fucking politicians.
America is fucked up."

Your a weak drug addicted hypocrite.

"And I believe without a doubt that the myrrh-ijuana has lead me to the understanding I have in regards to symbols...seeing what others don't."

Yeah Ive heard this one before. Why is it that weaker individuals who abuse and or are addicted to drugs need to justify their addiction? I would never suppose to judge who can "see" or "understand" more than I do. It's arrogant and condescending on several levels. I frankly don't know how anyone can possibly make such a claim.

Raphael, you are entitled to your spew. But please don't lump us into some category just because we live within the borders of some other country. Someone as "enlightened" as you can do far better than this. Interesting hypocrisy.

Personally, I really like Canada. If you had truly "traveled" here in the states, you might have a differing opinion of where you had been. Maybe If you hadn't smoked so much weed you might just get a different perspective.

[Last_Laff]

I'm boycotting and anti-amerikan. Yet, Im scared... well, not scared but, living ahead in those times... I'd be concerned what will the outcome by the Amerikans will be like affecting Canadians.

When will the party be over? Then the time to powerdown...?

My career is on the line...

And Rapheal, you seem to be strange.

But it's ok cuz I think you're a-ok.

It's cool to be strange cuz being that, is unique.

Can't we all get a bong?

[holmes]

Its true weed makes u insane. I smoke but limited. and I dont smoke when Im doing dangerous stuff. The night before dont smoke either. However it does open up gates for me when done in moderation. I dont drink tho. Im allergic so its either heroin or pot. Im choosing the pot.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('holmes', 'I')ts true weed makes u insane. I smoke but limited. and I dont smoke when Im doing dangerous stuff. The night before dont smoke either. However it does open up gates for me when done in moderation. I dont drink tho. Im allergic so its either heroin or pot. Im choosing the pot.

[threadbear]

I hate pot--anxiety attacks, extreme introversion, physically exhausting muscle tension. Perhaps I'm just physiologically different, but it's a really unpleasant experience.

Pot has taught me one thing, very clearly--that the universe is composed of matter, anti-matter and ,most importantly,-- doesn't-matter.

Freed from the constraints of sanity and survival issues, our minds latch on to the doesn't-matter all around us and the doesn't-matter that seems to crawl out of the cracks in the sidewalks of our own minds.

Everything fraught with meaning, every dust bunny a cosmos, every cartoon on television an epic myth. I yearn for a life raft of mundanity when I'm lost in a churning broiling sea of meaning. Too horrid for words.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', '
')Everything fraught with meaning, every dust bunny a cosmos, every cartoon on television an epic myth. I yearn for a life raft of mundanity when I'm lost in a churning broiling sea of meaning. Too horrid for words.

[AirlinePilot]

It's kind of sad really. Raphael is likely a pretty intelligent person and although he believes his vista is broadened, I think in fact the opposite is the case.

I can relate to Thread's experience with pot. Tried it a few times in school and it didn't do anything really positive for me so I never revisited it.

Raph,

Nothing was meant as an ad hominem there, just pointing out what could be considered some holes in your logic and thoughts. They don't seem to have consistency. Not meant as an attack, more an observation is all.

You keep on keepin on, it's at least entertaining!

[Daculling]

Well, one thing I have learned from the many years I have spent not taking psychedelic drugs is that any revelations brought on by said drugs pertain exclusively to your own mind. Do you want to expand your mind/consciousness? Go ahead and smoke a boat load or pot or drop LSD every weekend but in the end the only delusions or revelations you will receive are about you yourself as a person. They have no relation to the world outside the expanded consciousness. While I can read between the lines concerning Raph's post I only hope that his posts are done in an intoxicated state because if they are not there is a more serious problem a foot.

[PenultimateManStanding]

Well, he's been doing it for 35 years and hasn't figured it out yet.

[Daculling]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'W')ell, he's been doing it for 35 years and hasn't figured it out yet.

[NEOPO]

I have been watching and waiting....patiently...stalking my prey.....so they can get it all out......to see their second and third wave of logic come springing forth like weeds in MY motherfuc$ing garden!

screw you and pulling punches...the gloves are off.....

Tares....

Pay attention like you often wish your squishy headed students would.
and you can keep your inch cause I am bringin a MILE!!!

Compulsory education is like tossing spaghetti against the wall hoping some of it will stick just so you know when it is DONE....
Its a brain wash with no soap!
Its a governmental mandatory cattle prod dumbing down imagination devouring beast!!!
Only the strongest will survives!!!!

It's truth is often times nothing but the constant reineration of the generally accepted and agreed upon dogma of madness and history is the record of this madness as agreed upon by TPTB.
From day one repetition repetition - practice makes perfect - just as long as we can pass the "test" that says someone gets paid.....

I really dont know what todays student would do if not for learning by repetition.
My daughter is brilliant and except for a few credits doesnt have to attend her final year at high school yet she agrees its a bunch of repetitious BS.
She knows I smoke but she doesnt smoke - so much for that peer theory as she respects me highly and this is evident as NEOPO tries not to shit himself in the real world as well as in the online world.

She is the one who knew about PO before her father did!!!!

Yep its zombie Mind numbing.....and having to sit still when they are children!!!
inhuman.
and sticking them all together???
Oh how the genius as well as the subgenius suffers until a point where he/she can differentiate themselves according to the laws of this strange place......

Maybe thats why we have so many damn idiots today.
Idiots who think they are smart no less!
and the only people HERE that dont know what I am talking about ARE the IDIOTS here

Some people do not remember their dreams that do not smoke pot......yet who am I to think you are smart enough to do alittle research before making a prejudgemental decision, stuffing it into your logic canon and then shooting it at Raph................
Raph even bought it - BUT I havent...............

Those that abuse were abused but not all that were abused.... abuse.
My grandfather never remember shit either when he was drunk - I wonder if he dreamed? - stupid mono conclusions..............
This is the fatal flaw within your final wave of logic.

"hey guys lets all look at PO but lets not consider depletion and demand ok - come on it will be fun!!"

You may come close but fail to recognize the truth.
Those who are always awake and always dreaming do not need to dream while they are resting.
I see this as a point in mankinds evolution.
One day mankind will not waste energy dreaming while asleep and if Neitzsche has it right we will overcome much more then simple dreams.
If evolution is not the reason then please you attempt to explain why mankind has developed a THC receptor site.....................yet we dont have a cocaine site - no alcohol site - no heroine site .....no nicoteine site and on and on.......

Furthermore my brain works somewhat like a machine - useless irrelevant nonsensical big picture data is often times discarded to make room for more important blocks of data.
No wait - what was that you just said?

Recently PO has me utilizing almost all of my RAM and plenty of HARDDRIVE space so I have had to DEFRAG and SCANDISK often.
This still does not prevent me from remembering almost every word we have exchanged here mr man and that goes for the song you keep asking me if I heard and i say no fool you are the one who showed me the lyrics remember??
I recall it is the ballad of hollis brown?
Dont fuckin try me - dont go for your gun and you will live to see tomorrow <spits on a scorpion> pilgrim

Perhaps you cling to your dreams because you have failed to realize any in the real world.
Considering the condition of the real world I would say this applies to many.
Maybe your dreams are the only place you can communicate with what most people see as the "other side" of this existence.
Perhaps life is less profound to only you right before you take a puff and then everything suddenly has meaning.

It is you I feel sorry for.
This life is my dream.
PO says it may soon become a nightmare.
Global warming is over here selling crack and saying the same thing.

anyways - I wonder what is the other side of life - without meaning and boring??
What is this thing you call sober?
Because I know how the human brain works I realize that I am never SOBER.
Sober is completely unattainable as long as you have a brain.
Like the concept of sober we often find the human monkey clinging to the concept of normal.
There is no "normal" there is only the average of the other monkeys.

You describe the recreational user and the effects of recreational use in some freudian if not a dalian light yet you want to debase the daily user as if VERY REAL MEDICAL uses for the drug do not exist.
Ever hear of self medication?
Can you even conceive that that is exactly what alot of people are doing yet even many of them do not understand that they are self medicating....

Pfft.... you even know of someone who has a medical issue and uses pot for that very reason yet here you are talking this shit.

You also do not understand or ignore the facts of how the human brain functions and furthermore and WHAT REALLY HURTS MY FEELINGS is that you apparently have not read the article that I posted entitled Marijauna and the human brain that sites very clearly PROVEN science that disputes the common myths of how pot effects the human brain.

How do I know this? because you wouldnt be talking out of your ASS-ahhh if you had read the article or you would otherwise be ignoring the facts and that in effect makes you ignorant and that is something I have not wanted to see in you - scott - but now - well.

Like lorenzo or others who take so many passing shots we all tend to take it easy on you or else we would be in your grill 1/1/24/7/52/365............ ya dig?

"yeah heheh what was he smokin"
"Yeah heheh wish I had some of that"
This is the call of the blue breasted asshole right after he hears something that does not jive with his logic.....or the assholesss if our example happens to be a female.......

Ooooh BLAH BLAH I dont do dangerous stuff when I am stoned blah cause I am a paranoid Puss boy..... thats why!!!

You have been conditioned and yes their is a stigma especially if you do dangerous work like I do - stoned the whole time.
but but how can you do dangerous work and and - because I de- or re-conditioned my mind and learned to work stoned and now I am calmer and more focused on my task yet still very accutely aware of my surroundings.

My safety record speaks for itself.

Perhaps it is because I was a kid the doctors said had "issues" and gave drugs to calm yet was it me or my environment?

most people wouldnt think to work stoned so if/when they do it can be a mind numbing experience but why?? because that is how they learned ......fuck why do I have to repeat myself;-)

Yeah a narrow minded conversation about pot - retitle this thread please.

The narrow minded view of some of the most profound thoughts mankind has ever had is not surprising either.

These poor fucks have been so consistently attacked by christianity and all of its derivatives they either give in or have their mind completely closed to any/all religion/spirituality/other - hope the religious people are happy.....

I had always thought it would be best to have a godless world.
Careful what you wish for even if you are an agnostic

oh no - now i am having the thought that it might be best if we have a mindless world!!!!

Look!! it happened!!!

I had better quit having thoughts and learn to STFU - obey - work - sleep - dream - obey - work - sleep - dream - rinse and repeat 21000 times or so and then die.

Yep - I feel let down - almost betrayed - trying to like ya but you make it so damn hard sometimes.

But really I mean whats an internet friend anyways right?

FINAL RANT THOUGHT:
All of you who feel that pot is harmful.
"To save mankind from its own folly is to fill the world with fools"

and for all of you passive fence sitters.
"They came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. And then they came for me and by that time no one was left to speak up."

specop will like this one yet he will not understand how it applies to him besides the gun part dun dun duh...
"When they took the fourth amendment, I was silent because I don't deal drugs.
When they took the sixth amendment, I kept quiet because I know I'm innocent.
When they took the second amendment, I said nothing because I don't own a gun.
Now they've come for the first amendment, and I can't say anything at all."

and finally my defense of Raphael
"A sure sign of a genius is that all of the dunces are in a confederacy against him."

aint that oh so true - its sweet for me yet bitter for you - but aint it oh so true.......... and thats the end of my Fuc$in haiku!

PEAK OIL .........BITCHES!!!!

Before the show begins i want to address Dac and pyschadelics.
Come now - try not to define it as if it is as you say it is then it therefore has its own meaning

LSD - may be something else that I am very familiar with...I said may!!
Here is the truth - I used it or it used me - this is debateable - to break down mental barriers.

I realized Sex wasnt bad......... it was gooooood!
I realized that christians lie to themselves....... alot
I realized LSD was not for everyone
I realized Alcohol was probably the worst drug out there
I realized things were not as they seem
I realized that my government was not my friend
I realized most if not all organized religions were manipulations
I realized that the god of the bible was both good and evil
I realized that I had the ability to play chess with 2 people simulataneously and win almost every time.
I realized that I was god and so is everything and then I found the no thing and realized that it was a god also and have forever pondered this thought like many pray to their god
I realized alot of things and alot of those realizations were good and have most definately helped to make me the person i am today.
The responsible one who pays the bills, puts food on the table and otherwise does what everyone considers a good citizen should do but drugs.............

Surely I can see how the walking dead doing drugs isnt a good thing.
They are the ones who "freak out" because someones face melts and they cant keep their shit about themselves to remember they are high on acid.
They are the ones who's minds were so weak from the start that a sly devil like charles manson could seduce them into killing people.
They are the ones Jim Jones took to guyanna and gave poison.
Ah yes - a rotten apple doth spoil the barrel whole me thinks.....

Ok I am ill just thinking about how stupid and/or ignorant some people may be.
It hurts my mind to think of the vast mental distance that lays between their brain and mine.
Am I out there or are they in here............... we must ask ourselves.

Am I out there or are they in here......
Sometimes....its almost as if........<stares at you and wonders if you are real or if you are an illusion from the mist and fog that surrounds the vortex of truth>

Some people may ask "who is he talking about?" and I say "if you feel offended then it was you who I was talking about and if not then it was not you!"




And now for a little thing we like to call - mental images that are going off right now inside NEOPO's mind as it relates to how he feels after having had this unpleasant experience here this night - and we hope you like it.














Fin

[Last_Laff]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'I') have been watching and waiting....patiently...stalking my prey.....so they can get it all out......to see their second and third wave of logic come springing forth like weeds in MY motherfuc$ing garden!

screw you and pulling punches...the gloves are off.....

Tares....

Pay attention like you often wish your squishy headed students would.
and you can keep your inch cause I am bringin a MILE!!!

Compulsory education is like tossing spaghetti against the wall hoping some of it will stick just so you know when it is DONE....
Its a brain wash with no soap!
Its a governmental mandatory cattle prod dumbing down imagination devouring beast!!!
Only the strongest will survives!!!!

It's truth is often times nothing but the constant reineration of the generally accepted and agreed upon dogma of madness and history is the record of this madness as agreed upon by TPTB.
From day one repetition repetition - practice makes perfect - just as long as we can pass the "test" that says someone gets paid.....

I really dont know what todays student would do if not for learning by repetition.
My daughter is brilliant and except for a few credits doesnt have to attend her final year at high school yet she agrees its a bunch of repetitious BS.
She knows I smoke but she doesnt smoke - so much for that peer theory as she respects me highly and this is evident as NEOPO tries not to shit himself in the real world as well as in the online world.

She is the one who knew about PO before her father did!!!!

Yep its zombie Mind numbing.....and having to sit still when they are children!!!
inhuman.
and sticking them all together???
Oh how the genius as well as the subgenius suffers until a point where he/she can differentiate themselves according to the laws of this strange place......

Maybe thats why we have so many damn idiots today.
Idiots who think they are smart no less!
and the only people HERE that dont know what I am talking about ARE the IDIOTS here

Some people do not remember their dreams that do not smoke pot......yet who am I to think you are smart enough to do alittle research before making a prejudgemental decision, stuffing it into your logic canon and then shooting it at Raph................
Raph even bought it - BUT I havent...............

Those that abuse were abused but not all that were abused.... abuse.
My grandfather never remember shit either when he was drunk - I wonder if he dreamed? - stupid mono conclusions..............
This is the fatal flaw within your final wave of logic.

"hey guys lets all look at PO but lets not consider depletion and demand ok - come on it will be fun!!"

You may come close but fail to recognize the truth.
Those who are always awake and always dreaming do not need to dream while they are resting.
I see this as a point in mankinds evolution.
One day mankind will not waste energy dreaming while asleep and if Neitzsche has it right we will overcome much more then simple dreams.
If evolution is not the reason then please you attempt to explain why mankind has developed a THC receptor site.....................yet we dont have a cocaine site - no alcohol site - no heroine site .....no nicoteine site and on and on.......

Furthermore my brain works somewhat like a machine - useless irrelevant nonsensical big picture data is often times discarded to make room for more important blocks of data.
No wait - what was that you just said?

Recently PO has me utilizing almost all of my RAM and plenty of HARDDRIVE space so I have had to DEFRAG and SCANDISK often.
This still does not prevent me from remembering almost every word we have exchanged here mr man and that goes for the song you keep asking me if I heard and i say no fool you are the one who showed me the lyrics remember??
I recall it is the ballad of hollis brown?
Dont fuckin try me - dont go for your gun and you will live to see tomorrow <spits on a scorpion> pilgrim

Perhaps you cling to your dreams because you have failed to realize any in the real world.
Considering the condition of the real world I would say this applies to many.
Maybe your dreams are the only place you can communicate with what most people see as the "other side" of this existence.
Perhaps life is less profound to only you right before you take a puff and then everything suddenly has meaning.

It is you I feel sorry for.
This life is my dream.
PO says it may soon become a nightmare.
Global warming is over here selling crack and saying the same thing.

anyways - I wonder what is the other side of life - without meaning and boring??
What is this thing you call sober?
Because I know how the human brain works I realize that I am never SOBER.
Sober is completely unattainable as long as you have a brain.
Like the concept of sober we often find the human monkey clinging to the concept of normal.
There is no "normal" there is only the average of the other monkeys.

You describe the recreational user and the effects of recreational use in some freudian if not a dalian light yet you want to debase the daily user as if VERY REAL MEDICAL uses for the drug do not exist.
Ever hear of self medication?
Can you even conceive that that is exactly what alot of people are doing yet even many of them do not understand that they are self medicating....

Pfft.... you even know of someone who has a medical issue and uses pot for that very reason yet here you are talking this shit.

You also do not understand or ignore the facts of how the human brain functions and furthermore and WHAT REALLY HURTS MY FEELINGS is that you apparently have not read the article that I posted entitled Marijauna and the human brain that sites very clearly PROVEN science that disputes the common myths of how pot effects the human brain.

How do I know this? because you wouldnt be talking out of your ASS-ahhh if you had read the article or you would otherwise be ignoring the facts and that in effect makes you ignorant and that is something I have not wanted to see in you - scott - but now - well.

Like lorenzo or others who take so many passing shots we all tend to take it easy on you or else we would be in your grill 1/1/24/7/52/365............ ya dig?

"yeah heheh what was he smokin"
"Yeah heheh wish I had some of that"
This is the call of the blue breasted asshole right after he hears something that does not jive with his logic.....or the assholesss if our example happens to be a female.......

Ooooh BLAH BLAH I dont do dangerous stuff when I am stoned blah cause I am a paranoid Puss boy..... thats why!!!

You have been conditioned and yes their is a stigma especially if you do dangerous work like I do - stoned the whole time.
but but how can you do dangerous work and and - because I de- or re-conditioned my mind and learned to work stoned and now I am calmer and more focused on my task yet still very accutely aware of my surroundings.

My safety record speaks for itself.

Perhaps it is because I was a kid the doctors said had "issues" and gave drugs to calm yet was it me or my environment?

most people wouldnt think to work stoned so if/when they do it can be a mind numbing experience but why?? because that is how they learned ......fuck why do I have to repeat myself;-)

Yeah a narrow minded conversation about pot - retitle this thread please.

The narrow minded view of some of the most profound thoughts mankind has ever had is not surprising either.

These poor fucks have been so consistently attacked by christianity and all of its derivatives they either give in or have their mind completely closed to any/all religion/spirituality/other - hope the religious people are happy.....

I had always thought it would be best to have a godless world.
Careful what you wish for even if you are an agnostic

oh no - now i am having the thought that it might be best if we have a mindless world!!!!

Look!! it happened!!!

I had better quit having thoughts and learn to STFU - obey - work - sleep - dream - obey - work - sleep - dream - rinse and repeat 21000 times or so and then die.

Yep - I feel let down - almost betrayed - trying to like ya but you make it so damn hard sometimes.

But really I mean whats an internet friend anyways right?

FINAL RANT THOUGHT:
All of you who feel that pot is harmful.
"To save mankind from its own folly is to fill the world with fools"

and for all of you passive fence sitters.
"They came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. And then they came for me and by that time no one was left to speak up."

specop will like this one yet he will not understand how it applies to him besides the gun part dun dun duh...
"When they took the fourth amendment, I was silent because I don't deal drugs.
When they took the sixth amendment, I kept quiet because I know I'm innocent.
When they took the second amendment, I said nothing because I don't own a gun.
Now they've come for the first amendment, and I can't say anything at all."

and finally my defense of Raphael
"A sure sign of a genius is that all of the dunces are in a confederacy against him."

aint that oh so true - its sweet for me yet bitter for you - but aint it oh so true.......... and thats the end of my Fuc$in haiku!

PEAK OIL .........BITCHES!!!!

Before the show begins i want to address Dac and pyschadelics.
Come now - try not to define it as if it is as you say it is then it therefore has its own meaning

LSD - may be something else that I am very familiar with...I said may!!
Here is the truth - I used it or it used me - this is debateable - to break down mental barriers.

I realized Sex wasnt bad......... it was gooooood!
I realized that christians lie to themselves....... alot
I realized LSD was not for everyone
I realized Alcohol was probably the worst drug out there
I realized things were not as they seem
I realized that my government was not my friend
I realized most if not all organized religions were manipulations
I realized that the god of the bible was both good and evil
I realized that I had the ability to play chess with 2 people simulataneously and win almost every time.
I realized that I was god and so is everything and then I found the no thing and realized that it was a god also and have forever pondered this thought like many pray to their god
I realized alot of things and alot of those realizations were good and have most definately helped to make me the person i am today.
The responsible one who pays the bills, puts food on the table and otherwise does what everyone considers a good citizen should do but drugs.............

Surely I can see how the walking dead doing drugs isnt a good thing.
They are the ones who "freak out" because someones face melts and they cant keep their shit about themselves to remember they are high on acid.
They are the ones who's minds were so weak from the start that a sly devil like charles manson could seduce them into killing people.
They are the ones Jim Jones took to guyanna and gave poison.
Ah yes - a rotten apple doth spoil the barrel whole me thinks.....

Ok I am ill just thinking about how stupid and/or ignorant some people may be.
It hurts my mind to think of the vast mental distance that lays between their brain and mine.
Am I out there or are they in here............... we must ask ourselves.

Am I out there or are they in here......
Sometimes....its almost as if........<stares at you and wonders if you are real or if you are an illusion from the mist and fog that surrounds the vortex of truth>

Some people may ask "who is he talking about?" and I say "if you feel offended then it was you who I was talking about and if not then it was not you!"




And now for a little thing we like to call - mental images that are going off right now inside NEOPO's mind as it relates to how he feels after having had this unpleasant experience here this night - and we hope you like it.














Fin

[PenultimateManStanding]

I was just sayin' for occasional use only. . .