[Bobbotov]

"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country... Corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money-power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed"

Abraham Lincoln

"If fascism came to America it would be on a program of Americanism"

Huey Long

"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism, since it is the merger of state and corporate power"

Benito Mussolini

"The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders . . . All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism."

Hermann Goering

"It also gives us a very special, secret pleasure to see how unaware the people around us are of what is really happening to them."

Adolf Hitler

"Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play."

Joseph Goebbels

"It is not the public who votes that determines a country's destiny but rather the ones who count the votes."

Joseph Stalin

[gg3]

That last quote is particularly ironic in light of the latest news of yet another fatal security hole found in Diebold voting machines:

You put a little program on a flash drive, then discretely plug it into the USB port on the machine, and your little program walks right into the stored folders in the MS Access database and rearranges the votes in whatever way you like. Then you remove your flash drive, walk away, and wash your hands.

That McGovern guy who stood up to Rumsfeld was a senior CIA analyst during the Bush Senior admin who was responsible for Bush's morning intel briefings. Not what I'd call a flaming liberal.

And the fact that he did it, and he held Rumsfeld's feet to the fire, and the whole thing was broadcast on national television, was IMHO not a sign of the end of democracy, but a sign of its continued strength and vigor.

We shall overcome this band of military incompetent, fiscally imprudent (Republicans just increased the national debt ceiling to TEN TRILLION DOLLARS), kleptocratic, lawbreaking, wanna-be tyrants, and they will go down in history as the worst Administration this nation has ever had to suffer. And we will move on.

[max_power29]

It looks like Rummy let a little bit of truth slip..oopsy! What do you all think of this?

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/143607/ru ... onfession/

[LadyRuby]

Means diddly.

[max_power29]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('LadyRuby', 'M')eans diddly.

[gnm]

Actually Bush said the he saw the video of the plane hitting the second tower.. He said it after it had actually hit the tower but well before any video had been available of it actually hitting the second tower. I think thats what you were referring to..

-G

[max_power29]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gnm', 'A')ctually Bush said the he saw the video of the plane hitting the second tower.. He said it after it had actually hit the tower but well before any video had been available of it actually hitting the second tower. I think thats what you were referring to..

-G

[jeezlouise]

When is this from? It's very telling. Any speech or body language analysts out there who wanna give this one a shot??

And just for the record.. I think he said he saw the 1st plane crash (into the North tower) when the only footage of that wasn't available until the next day, but my guess is that he was just mixed up as usual.

[max_power29]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jeezlouise', 'W')hen is this from? It's very telling. Any speech or body language analysts out there who wanna give this one a shot??

And just for the record.. I think he said he saw the 1st plane crash (into the North tower) when the only footage of that wasn't available until the next day, but my guess is that he was just mixed up as usual.

[AlCzervik]

Here is some stuff on the Bush slip up. I think his drug-addled brain just has everything mixed-up, but maybe there is more to it.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/bushlie.html
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/bushflub.htm

[Atlantean_Relic]

I think Bush could get up and devulge his plans for world domination and nothing would happen. You know as long as I'm safe from furry little terrorists in my SUV, It's all good.

[max_power29]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Atlantean_Relic', 'I') think Bush could get up and devulge his plans for world domination and nothing would happen. You know as long as I'm safe from furry little terrorists in my SUV, It's all good.

[qwerty]

Rummy MUST RETIRE!!


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hree retired military officers who served in Iraq called today for the resignation of Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, telling a Democratic "oversight hearing" on Capitol Hill that the Pentagon chief bungled planning for the U.S. invasion, dismissed the prospect of an insurgency and sent American troops into the fray with inadequate equipment.

The testimony by the three --two retired Army major generals and a former Marine colonel -- came a day after disclosure of a classified intelligence assessment that concluded the war in Iraq has fueled recruitment of violent Islamic extremists, helping to create a new generation of potential terrorists around the world and worsening the U.S. position.

[Zardoz]

I think this qualifies as a "bombshell":

Papers sold to military: ‘Rumsfeld must go’

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'J')ust days after President Bush publicly affirmed Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's job security through the end of his term, a family of publications catering to the military will publish an editorial calling for the defense secretary's removal...

...The editorial will appear just one day before the midterm election, in which GOP candidates have been losing ground, according to recent polls.

"This is not about the midterm elections," continued the editorial, which will appear in the Army Times, Air Force Times, Navy Times, and Marine Corps Times on Monday. "Regardless of which party wins Nov. 7, the time has come, Mr. President, to face the hard bruising truth: Donald Rumsfeld must go."

[Dreamtwister]

I applaud them for standing up to the administration, but I need to temper that with a phrase:

Military coup

As much as I may not like Bush, I like the idea of President Keating* a whole lot less.

*Admiral Timothy Keating is the Commander of USNORTHCOM and NATO. Since the JCS falls outside the normal chain of command, Keating (Or perhaps General James Cartwright, Commander of USSTRATCOM) seem the most likely to take over in the event of a coup.

[NEOPO]

Is keating a neocon bohemian grove skull and bones person?;-)

[DantesPeak]

It has been said Rumsfeld has previously offered to resign on more than one occasion, but 'stay the course' GWB won't accept that.

While a military coup to me is a very bad idea, as long as GWB doesn't order a nuclear attack on Iran or North Korea, the military might be able to stall GWB and hang on for another two years in Iraq - until the next President comes in. But that also might be risky - I expect eventually radical Islam will assert itself even more in Iraq or somewhere else in the Persian Gulf region. This could put the strained US military even in more of a corner.

[AgentR]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DantesPeak', 'I')t has been said Rumsfeld has previously offered to resign on more than one occasion, but 'stay the course' GWB won't accept that.

[Dreamtwister]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'I')s keating a neocon bohemian grove skull and bones person?;-)

[Dreamtwister]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shannymara', 'Y')ou mean... gulp... we have to save ourselves?