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Re: Palestinians prefer death to Palestine

Unread postby Miki » Fri 01 Sep 2006, 11:22:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'O')ne of these days, rog, Islamic fanatics are going to blow themselves up in New Zealand. They'll kill a bunch of Kiwis and you will ask yourself, "why?" It sure isn't because of America. It's just what they do.


PMS,

The fact is that the countries targeted so far have all been US/Israel allies that have participated in the slaughter of Muslim civilians and in the invasion of Arab territory.

The terrorists will never atack NZ, as long as NZ continues to respect their sovereignity.

Bush and the American government are the main cause of terrorism in the world. Here is a European website that explains how all the terrorist atacks in Europe have been related to US & allies' foreign policies in the ME.

Link: UK Muslims and Terrorism

[web]http://www.eurolegal.org/isterbrit.shtml[/web]
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Bleak Ramadan for Palestine

Unread postby Specop_007 » Sat 23 Sep 2006, 21:30:13

Reap what you sow Obscenity deleted.. Someone must have forgot to tell you the Great Satan (America) pays your Obscenity deleted. bills.

Hope your happy with Hamas and terrorizing The West. :lol: Click

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip Sep 23, 2006 (AP)— Gaza's children used to light colorful lanterns to mark Ramadan, the Islamic holy month of fasting. But this year, many parents can't afford those small $1 toys as the coastal strip sinks deeper into poverty amid an aid cutoff to punish the Hamas-led government. "These days, I just want to cry," said Umm Emad, a mother of six. The only lantern in her house is a paraffin lamp she keeps for Gaza's frequent power cuts.

Ramadan, which began Saturday in the West Bank and Gaza and other parts of the Muslim world, is a time of fasting from dawn to dusk, piety and giving to the poor. It's also a festive month, with large family meals after sundown, social get-togethers and new clothes for everyone.

But Gaza is poorer than ever, and many will not be able to observe all Ramadan traditions. The U.N. feeds some 1 million of Gaza's 1.4 million people. One of the U.N. agencies, the World Food Program, added some 60,000 needy people for a total of 220,000 to its roster in September alone.

Foreign aid, which helped prop up the Palestinian Authority for more than a decade, dried up in March after the Islamic militant group Hamas came to power. For long periods, Gaza also was cut off from the world, particularly after Hamas-allied militants kidnapped an Israeli soldier in June.

In the past three months, Israeli incursions to stop rocket fire and find smuggling tunnels have killed more than 200 Palestinians, most of them militants. Electricity is rationed, in six-hour blocks, after Israel's military bombed Gaza's main power plant following the kidnapping of the soldier.
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Re: Bleak Ramadan for Palestine

Unread postby nwildmand » Sat 23 Sep 2006, 21:45:10

nice to see you havent lost your charm spec.

you havent been posting much latley. why?
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Re: Bleak Ramadan for Palestine

Unread postby NEOPO » Sat 23 Sep 2006, 22:11:32

He has succumbed to the charm of his own chains and the comfort of his cage.
He has a 10 year supply of blue pills and bullets.
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Re: Bleak Ramadan for Palestine

Unread postby Jack » Sat 23 Sep 2006, 22:59:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'B')ut Gaza is poorer than ever, and many will not be able to observe all Ramadan traditions. The U.N. feeds some 1 million of Gaza's 1.4 million people.


Therein lies the problem. Reduce the surplus population and they wouldn't have these problems.
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Re: Bleak Ramadan for Palestine

Unread postby eastbay » Sat 23 Sep 2006, 23:31:06

Jack,

I believe reducing the population of Palestine is the Palestinians #1 objective.
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Re: Bleak Ramadan for Palestine

Unread postby kam30en » Sun 24 Sep 2006, 00:47:27

The muslims don't know when to stop breeding. Gaza is fenced in, and they are still breeding like rabbits. Don't they realize they are going to all starve to death once international aid stops coming.
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Re: Bleak Ramadan for Palestine

Unread postby Ayame » Sun 24 Sep 2006, 04:35:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')"Umm Emad, a mother of six


Says it all really.
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Re: Bleak Ramadan for Palestine

Unread postby gego » Sun 24 Sep 2006, 04:43:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', '
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Ramadan, which began Saturday in the West Bank and Gaza and other parts of the Muslim world, is a time of fasting from dawn to dusk, piety and giving to the poor.


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Re: Bleak Ramadan for Palestine

Unread postby Lawmage » Sun 24 Sep 2006, 07:01:38

While I agree that the Palestinians are more than partially responsible for their own misfortunes, delighting in their misfortunes is not helpful.

The Palestinians need some help...Of course, they also need to help themselves. They could do that most successfully by rejecting terrorism and deciding to behave like human beings instead of savages...

The Israelis have not treated the Pals well or fairly. A bleak Ramadan is merely symptomatic of the problems in the region. A pity the Palestinians seem unable to recognize their own complicity in those problems...
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Re: Bleak Ramadan for Palestine

Unread postby Specop_007 » Sun 24 Sep 2006, 11:20:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('nwildmand', 'n')ice to see you havent lost your charm spec.

you havent been posting much latley. why?


Things to do, things to do. Summers winding down, been enjoying whats left of it. :)
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Re: Bleak Ramadan for Palestine

Unread postby Polemic » Sun 24 Sep 2006, 12:42:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lawmage', 'W')hile I agree that the Palestinians are more than partially responsible for their own misfortunes, delighting in their misfortunes is not helpful.

The Palestinians need some help...Of course, they also need to help themselves. They could do that most successfully by rejecting terrorism and deciding to behave like human beings instead of savages...


The Palestinians are guilty of having too many children, as can be said for most non-White populations on the planet. They are not unique in that respect.

They are also guilty of asymmetric warfare against the Israeli Jews whose ultimate aim is to take their land and expel them. I can hardly blame them for not graciously surrendering their homes and land. Many Palestinians are prepared to accept the Israeli state at its pre-1967 borders.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Israelis have not treated the Pals well or fairly. A bleak Ramadan is merely symptomatic of the problems in the region. A pity the Palestinians seem unable to recognize their own complicity in those problems...


That cuts both ways. It's an even bigger pity that Americans seem unable to recognize the complicity of both America and Israel in these problems. Since the problem is not recognized or understood, it seems unlikely to go away.
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Palestinians Kill Each Other.....

Unread postby kam30en » Sun 01 Oct 2006, 20:30:14

Here, this is what arabs do....if they take over Israel, this is what you can expect, endless fighting and barbarism. I guess since gaza is sealed off, they can only fight amongst themselves.

ARABS KILL EACH OTHER

But can you imagine morons like this actually being able to defeat Israel, a nation with more scientists per capita than any other nation in the world.
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Re: Palestinians Kill Each Other.....

Unread postby mekrob » Mon 02 Oct 2006, 00:16:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')ere, this is what arabs do


Yes, they kill people. Guess what? EVERY RACE AND ETHNICITY KILLS OTHERS AND THEMSELVES. It's called being human! 8 people die in these clashes and they are barbarians? What about the hundreds of thousands that died in the US Civil War? I guess all Americans are barbarians for that aren't they? Same with the Spanish Civil War? Do you call every ethnicity "barbarians" when there is violence in their society amongst themselves?

Jews are included in the group of murders as well.

Bigotry and outbursts of violence aren't solely Muslim nor Christian tendencies.
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Re: Palestinians Kill Each Other.....

Unread postby Miki » Mon 02 Oct 2006, 14:14:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kam30en', 'H')ere, this is what arabs do....if they take over Israel, this is what you can expect, endless fighting and barbarism. I guess since gaza is sealed off, they can only fight amongst themselves.

ARABS KILL EACH OTHER

But can you imagine morons like this actually being able to defeat Israel, a nation with more scientists per capita than any other nation in the world.


For the record, the recent fights are a direct result of the fact that the US and Europe are starving the Palestinians by withdrawing foreign aid as a punishment for electing the wrong party in the democratic elections.

The government of Israel has aggravated the situation by witholding federal money that belonged to the Occupied Territories.

If this was not enough, US congressmen are asking for the UN to stop sending money to Palestine because the money is helping "supporters of Hamas". Given that Hamas is supported by most Palestinians, one can't help but to think that the congressmen are interested in starving the Palestinians so that they will turn against their democratically elected government.

Moreover, the US is preventing Arabs from helping the Palestinian people by cutting transactions with every Arab bank that processes donations to the Palestinians.

If the entitled citizens of Israel or America were subjected to these conditions, I presume there would also be some violent revolts and fights, no? Or maybe they are too civilized to fight because they are not being paid their salaries for months and they can't buy food for their families. Maybe.
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Re: Palestinians Kill Each Other.....

Unread postby nwildmand » Mon 02 Oct 2006, 15:21:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Miki', '
')For the record, the recent fights are a direct result of the fact that the US and Europe are starving the Palestinians by withdrawing foreign aid as a punishment for electing the wrong party in the democratic elections.


ohhh the great satan isint feeding us anymore. wa wa wa. looks like the pals finally figured it out. the terrorist wont feed them, we do. now they are doing somthing about it. hey pals, you want to get fed???? kick hamas out and support abbas.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Miki', 'T')he government of Israel has aggravated the situation by witholding federal money that belonged to the Occupied Territories.


your wrong, they took money from hamas, the group responsible for most of the suicide bombing israel has endured. the group thats goal is to see the end of the israeli state. seems like a fair tactic in my book.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Miki', 'I')f this was not enough, US congressmen are asking for the UN to stop sending money to Palestine because the money is helping "supporters of Hamas". Given that Hamas is supported by most Palestinians, one can't help but to think that the congressmen are interested in starving the Palestinians so that they will turn against their democratically elected government.


anything to defeat terrorists especially hamas. looks like its working too. tell me miki how many of your brothers have to die or starve to death before israel can exist? all of them?? you obviously know you cant win so whats the holdup???

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Miki', 'M')oreover, the US is preventing Arabs from helping the Palestinian people by cutting transactions with every Arab bank that processes donations to the Palestinians.


good we should stop the funding of terrorists wherever we can. we are getting there slowly know. we need hamas to die with a whimper.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Miki', 'I')f the entitled citizens of Israel or America were subjected to these conditions, I presume there would also be some violent revolts and fights, no?

you see we earned or grew our own food, you depend on hand me outs. oh and we would never be subjected to those conditions. we are self reliant. you are not. i say stop supporting the welfare states. let them fend for themselves.
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Re: Palestinians Kill Each Other.....

Unread postby kam30en » Mon 02 Oct 2006, 19:55:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')or the record, the recent fights are a direct result of the fact that the US and Europe are starving the Palestinians by withdrawing foreign aid as a punishment for electing the wrong party in the democratic elections.


Good, this is getting the palestinians ready for peak oil when they will really be starving. Gaza will experience a MASSIVE die-off. Probably 3/4 of the population will die. The rest will be expelled by Israel and die somewhere else. These brainless savages will not be able to take on the awesome thinking and strategic power that is the IDF and the jewish state. :twisted:
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Re: Palestinian Civil War, Why?

Unread postby Tyler_JC » Sun 17 Dec 2006, 16:36:35

I couldn't agree more!

If the Palestinians were united in non-violent protest against Israel, their situation would improve overnight.

Israel does not want to murder all of the Arabs in the Middle East, they merely want to be left alone.

If the Palestinians agreed to disarm, Israel would gladly give them back sovereignty. But so long as Jews are getting blown up by the bus load on a weekly basis, we will never see peace in the Middle East.

Hamas could win their war if they wanted to. All they need to do is tell the people not to resist with bombs and bullets but instead argue their case in a civilized manor.

If one hundred thousand Arabs marched on the streets of the Gaza Strip singing "Give Peace a Chance", think of what we could do...

The peoples of Israel and Palestine have far more to gain by peacefully co-existing than by continuing the bloodshed. I just don't understand why they can't figure that out.
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Re: Palestinian Civil War, Why?

Unread postby rogerhb » Sun 17 Dec 2006, 16:42:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', 'I')f the Palestinians agreed to disarm, Israel would gladly give them back sovereignty.


Give up the settlements in the West Bank?

Withdraw to 1967 borders?
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