[Gigashadow]

"Bush and Vincente Fox, an admitted Jew"

uh, is there something wrong with being a jew?

[oowolf]

"This country is not now and never was what it used to be."

[Miki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gigashadow', '"')Bush and Vincente Fox, an admitted Jew"

uh, is there something wrong with being a jew?

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Miki', '
')I agree. In Lebanon, we take care of each other, the elderly are taken care of by their kids; kids live with their parents until they marry; we borrow money from each other; we stop to help when we see an accident in the high way; 90% of people are friends with their neighbor; we visit our extended family often; we know all our cousins; etc

Community cohesion is very important, and it will be even more important when people start needing to cooperate with each other again in order to survive. I think that will be a positive change for everyone, if the world goes in that direction.

[Novus]

The great economic reckoning is no accident. It is being talked about and planned the rich and powerfull. I am not talking about doomers here but successfull business people.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')http://finance.yahoo.com/columnist/arti ... icher/9775

Only the Rich will Survive.

Most Americans also still think our government will protect them. The world is changing at an alarming rate, yet most people here waddle stubbornly through the crosswalk, so to speak, still believing that this country has the right of way and that our political institutions are still sound.

What about Medicare, which is running in the red? And what about Social Security, which will soon be running in the red? In case you don't know how in trouble both programs are, as of 2004, Medicare's long-term fiscal gap is over $60 trillion, while Social Security reportedly has a $10 trillion shortfall.

In the next five years, the United States and the world will go through some of the most financially disturbing times in the history of the world. Once again, the rich will become very, very, rich, and the unsuspecting will be left like the passengers on the S.S. Titanic, heading straight for an economic iceberg.

[qwerty]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', 'T')he great economic reckoning is no accident. It is being talked about and planned the rich and powerfull. I am not talking about doomers here but successfull business people.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')http://finance.yahoo.com/columnist/arti ... icher/9775

Only the Rich will Survive.

Most Americans also still think our government will protect them. The world is changing at an alarming rate, yet most people here waddle stubbornly through the crosswalk, so to speak, still believing that this country has the right of way and that our political institutions are still sound.

What about Medicare, which is running in the red? And what about Social Security, which will soon be running in the red? In case you don't know how in trouble both programs are, as of 2004, Medicare's long-term fiscal gap is over $60 trillion, while Social Security reportedly has a $10 trillion shortfall.

In the next five years, the United States and the world will go through some of the most financially disturbing times in the history of the world. Once again, the rich will become very, very, rich, and the unsuspecting will be left like the passengers on the S.S. Titanic, heading straight for an economic iceberg.

[KhanCEO]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', 'I')s this thread anything more than just doomer porn?

The US Federal Government complete with an electoral-college-elected president, a Senate, Supreme Court, Army, Department of Transportation and Department of Agriculture will still exist in 2056.

You may never hear from them, but they will exist.

[Denny]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('qwerty', '
')
I do wonder however, when TSHTF and America economically crashes and collapses, when the masses for the first time in 250 years of American history realize this is for real, and this time its forever, what they will think and how they will react?

Its one thing to have an economic depression like the late 1920's, buts its entirely a different think for the masses to wake up to a new reality, a darker, harder, poorer, colder, meaner reality. American Dream gone, the fanciful ideas of democracy, capitalism, God and prosperity all exposed as the lies they always were, the scams and illusions they stood for, when all of this happens in the blink of an eye, will the average American simple go crazy?

What effects will this have on the American pysche? Will they finally admit and accept defeat, from the world and from mother nature? or will they rise up in ever more denial and try to accomplish the impossible?

Everywhere I go I see people still 'believing' in America, the land of oppurtunity, the dreams that hard work and thrift can bring. Its all lies, all of it. I wonder the most how the Government will explain this to the people in a desperate attempt to appease the massess.

It will be interesting in the next few years to say the least....

[rwwff]

In Costa Rica it would not be considered normal to spend a million dollars keeping someone aged 75 alive an extra six months. In the US that is par for the course.

In Costa Rica, no one is under any delusion about being able to sue for millions of dollars over any medical outcome that is less than perfect, even if there is no error on the part of a doctor or company.

In Costa Rica, the citizens do not expect the government to subsidize them in a twenty year long retirement travel spree.

The US system can not be fixed without goring the heck out of the lawyers, taking away much extravagent procedures, raising taxes by huge amounts, and setting back the retirement age a decade.

[sciencegirl]

Their is one financial Guru that posts on the kitco.com site that likes to post about American economic collapse, his name is Richard Daughty, "Mogambo".

Here is a link, http://www.kitco.com/ind/Daughty/sep212006.html

I think that America will last but that within 5 years it will no longer be a superpower.

[Denny]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rwwff', '
')The US system can not be fixed without goring the heck out of the lawyers, taking away much extravagent procedures, raising taxes by huge amounts, and setting back the retirement age a decade.