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Should "Peak Oil" book writers be sued?

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Re: Should "Peak Oil" book writers be sued?

Unread postby Battle_Scarred_Galactico » Tue 12 Sep 2006, 06:52:36

Yes because we don't want anyone going against the status quo and reducing their oil use do we ?

This is the last time I click on anything involving Lorenzo, what a complete tool.
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Re: Should "Peak Oil" book writers be sued?

Unread postby DesertBear2 » Tue 12 Sep 2006, 08:26:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('strider3700', '
')I'm often worried that people can be so radically wrong and perhaps we are wrong about peakoil. Then I remember peakoil is physics, dow 50,000 is economics.


The above book is typical of generic American wild thinking.

This level of craziness in the American sphere goes right back to the beginning of the Republic and includes every type of religious nut groups, self-help cults, snake oil health cults, conspiracy theories, eutopian sexual communities, mid-west crankery. McCarthyism can probably be lumped in here.

It's just normal background noise in the USA and all of this crank thinking gets exploited by sharp operators who try to make a fast buck off the herd.

Peak oil is different. There are some extremists associated with the movement ie a different approach to end-times and profit takers. But overall, peak oil theory is hard rational thinking.

I am saying this as an ex petroleum geologist who has worked in the field for decades.
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Re: Should "Peak Oil" book writers be sued?

Unread postby PolestaR » Tue 12 Sep 2006, 09:08:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MattSavinar', 'M')y business model is such: people get 5 updates a week and about 1 original article per month for free. 1 out of every 300-600 visitors buys something from the store. For some items, I have prices lower than even Amazon which is like having prices lower than Wal-Mart.

The problem with this is?


I dont really care about your business model, selling stories and howtos is an ok endeavor to make money in my books. Again you feel the need to "defend" yourself against my "allegations" that you are in it for the money, you are, so there is no need to defend this (as I said previously it wouldnt bother me if you were pimping animal sex) .

My problem with what you do only exists if you succeed in getting a lot of people aware (and I mean doomer aware... not just visitors). There is only a small chance people of your ilk will achieve any sort of critical mass (and in the scheme of things youre only a smaller part of this small problem) but why there is a chance I still wont personally appreciate your efforts or think that you are doing the right thing by me. In fact in a way, you are attacking me (and other worthy survivors), but at the moment only in the way that a fly could.. nothing worth worrying about....yet.

Ruppert is scared... hes moved.... Kunstler is finding his hideout in NZ... will you be next Matthew?
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Re: Should "Peak Oil" book writers be sued?

Unread postby Aaron » Tue 12 Sep 2006, 09:25:46

All Lorenzo threads devolve into a biofuels debate.

All Savinar threads devolve into profit motive debate.

In closing I'd like to say...

Hitler, 911, child porn, Global Warming, NWO, Roswell...

Did I say Hitler?
The problem is, of course, that not only is economics bankrupt, but it has always been nothing more than politics in disguise... economics is a form of brain damage.

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Re: Should "Peak Oil" book writers be sued?

Unread postby strider3700 » Tue 12 Sep 2006, 11:34:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', '
')In closing I'd like to say...

Hitler, 911, child porn, Global Warming, NWO, Roswell...



been hanging out on freenet lately?
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Re: Should "Peak Oil" book writers be sued?

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Tue 12 Sep 2006, 12:42:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'a')int americans zany? we think the most crazy nutty things :)
yeah, but it's a lovable zany, crazy nutty. to all you people in the big world out there who hate americans, you know it's a love/hate thing, c'mon admit it. our pop divas and cool movies, and every athelete in the world wants to beat our baseball/basketball whatever team. all of greece was celebrating they beat america in the basketball championship, it mattered more than winning the damn thing, heh heh. for every hand-wringing intellectual there are a thousand ordinary folks that would like to come here, :P
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Re: Should "Peak Oil" book writers be sued?

Unread postby MattSavinar » Tue 12 Sep 2006, 14:55:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PolestaR', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MattSavinar', 'M')y business model is such: people get 5 updates a week and about 1 original article per month for free. 1 out of every 300-600 visitors buys something from the store. For some items, I have prices lower than even Amazon which is like having prices lower than Wal-Mart.

The problem with this is?


I dont really care about your business model, selling stories and howtos is an ok endeavor to make money in my books. Again you feel the need to "defend" yourself against my "allegations" that you are in it for the money, you are, so there is no need to defend this (as I said previously it wouldnt bother me if you were pimping animal sex) .

My problem with what you do only exists if you succeed in getting a lot of people aware (and I mean doomer aware... not just visitors). There is only a small chance people of your ilk will achieve any sort of critical mass (and in the scheme of things youre only a smaller part of this small problem) but why there is a chance I still wont personally appreciate your efforts or think that you are doing the right thing by me. In fact in a way, you are attacking me (and other worthy survivors), but at the moment only in the way that a fly could.. nothing worth worrying about....yet.

Ruppert is scared... hes moved.... Kunstler is finding his hideout in NZ... will you be next Matthew?


my sense is you have issues that go way beyond peak oil.
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Re: Should "Peak Oil" book writers be sued?

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Tue 12 Sep 2006, 15:40:28

yeah, polestar, and he's got real fine tuned antennae for that sort of thing. He can spot 'em a mile off! 8)
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Re: Should "Peak Oil" book writers be sued?

Unread postby Atlantean_Relic » Wed 13 Sep 2006, 01:21:15

You know I think Polestar has a severe chronic allergy to his fellow Homo sapiens.
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Re: Should "Peak Oil" book writers be sued?

Unread postby PolestaR » Wed 13 Sep 2006, 04:37:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MattSavinar', 'm')y sense is you have issues that go way beyond peak oil.


Are you sensing something else Matt? Maybe today I will face challenges and overcome them? :lol:

Seriously... who doesnt have issues? I can sort of see how you had to learn those techniques from charlatans to sell your stuff. ;) If you have something to say dont generalize it shows ignorance and maybe a lack of maturity.
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Re: Should "Peak Oil" book writers be sued?

Unread postby PolestaR » Wed 13 Sep 2006, 04:43:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Atlantean_Relic', 'Y')ou know I think Polestar has a severe chronic allergy to his fellow Homo sapiens.


I love intelligent humans, conversely I hate dumbos. Since probably only 10-15% of the current population would meet my standards you could say hating the majority of humans makes me a general human hater... I guess.

I dont think "crazy" stuff like you that a smart Jew or a smart african doesnt have attributes which are valuable to a community. I'm discriminating using talent and ability as my compass.
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Re: Should "Peak Oil" book writers be sued?

Unread postby Atlantean_Relic » Wed 13 Sep 2006, 09:23:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PolestaR', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Atlantean_Relic', 'Y')ou know I think Polestar has a severe chronic allergy to his fellow Homo sapiens.


I love intelligent humans, conversely I hate dumbos. Since probably only 10-15% of the current population would meet my standards you could say hating the majority of humans makes me a general human hater... I guess.

I dont think "crazy" stuff like you that a smart Jew or a smart african doesnt have attributes which are valuable to a community. I'm discriminating using talent and ability as my compass.


Excuse me, I don't believe that crazy stuff. I do have that crazy belief in a Omnipotent entity surrounding everything. If I'm to be called crazy I prefer it to be based on factual facts.
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