$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'u')hm what?
So yer saying that we are unable to objectively discuss peak oil etc etc because we are unable to take our own private positions and previous life experiences out of the equation?
I do not know if this exactly applies yet I find that most people are unable to overcome their own deficiencies long enough to believe that someone else has indeed overcome them and is therefore thinking on a higher level.
For instance - altruism - most believe it is impossible to reach such a state of mind yet it appears that that is exactly why most can never believe nor ever attain this level of thought.
They believe it is impossible and thus for them at least.... it is.
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Zen And The Art Of Debate
Re: Zen And The Art Of Debate
by BigTex » Thu 31 Aug 2006, 19:21:21
NEOPO, assuming you are correctly summarizing the relevance to PO of the original mind bender in this thread, I think there is something to the idea that people tend to see what they want to see in a given situation. Thus, there are people who are basically pessimistic about everything, and they tend to see the negative side of everything. There are people who go through life looking for a fight, and they find many fights. You get the point. But the other side of this idea is reflected in the saying "just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not after you." In other words, even if someone has a predisposition to doom, that doesn't mean doom is not in the works. It may only mean that those predisposed to seeing doom have more finely calibrated pre-doom detectors (kind of like the animals before bad weather).
In sum, I don't think that the preconceptions of people who are interested in doomer type scenarios like PO offers any insight into the probability or reasonableness of a given doom scenario.
In any case, I don't think the PO problem is going to go away by bending up a bunch of doomers' minds with self-doubt.
"If PO occurred and no doomer was aware of it because his mind was bent up with self doubt, would it make a noise?" Yes, it would make a loud noise.
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