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WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME ABOUT THIS.... GET OFF UR ASSES

Postby sert » Fri 25 Aug 2006, 15:22:31

WHY DID I HAVE TO FIND OUT ABOUT PEAK OIL ALL ON MY OWN? I JUST HAPPENED TO STUMPLE INTO IT, I KINDA HEARD ABOUT IT B4 BUT I DIDN'T KNOW ITS EFFECTS WAS THIS BAD!! WHEN I STARTED READING IT ONLY THEN DID I FIND OUT THE TRUTH!! IM SO SHOCKED THAT YHIS COMMUNITY DID NOT INFORM ME QUICKER!!! WHY SO LATE, WE ONLY HAVE A FEW MORE YEARS LEFT!!! WHY NOTHING IN THE MEDIA?? WHY ISN'T ANYONE ON THE STREETS BEING MADE AWARE OF THIS!! IM VERY DISAPPOINTED IN THIS COMMUNITY!! :x :x :x :x U SHOULD DO MORE TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT THERE, AS SOON AS I FOUND OUT I HAVE BEEN ALL OVER THE PLACE TRYING TO TELL AS MANY PEOPLE AS I CAN!! THIS IS A MESSAGE WHICH NEEDS TO REACH THE WHOLE WORLD!! SO FOR GOD SAKE PLEASE GET OF UR ASSES AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS!!!! INFORM THE PUBLIC!! GET ORGANIZED!!!!!!!!!!! :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:
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Re: WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME ABOUT THIS.... GET OFF UR ASSE

Postby strider3700 » Fri 25 Aug 2006, 15:45:22

what would telling the entire world actually accomplish?
shame on us, doomed from the start
god have mercy on our dirty little hearts
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Re: WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME ABOUT THIS.... GET OFF UR ASSE

Postby NEOPO » Fri 25 Aug 2006, 15:45:49

welcome to the club ;-)

You are not so different then us.
try to Understand that we are all addicted.

try to Understand that this forum is just one of many ways to get the word out.

try to Understand that some people do not want to get the word out because they believe that there is only so much room upon the hill and that they may be right.

Many of us have chosen to be the messenger of peak oil.
Many of us have suffered yet most continue.

Now go do your share of suffering and come back so we can discuss.
This way we can all learn just how perfectly insane people truly are and what if anything can be done about it.

You assume way too much - careful with assuming.
It is easier to enslave a people that wish to remain free then it is to free a people who wish to remain enslaved.
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Re: WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME ABOUT THIS.... GET OFF UR ASSE

Postby RonMN » Fri 25 Aug 2006, 15:52:53

Give Sert a week...he'll understand once he's shunned by every person he ever knew...when they look at him like a freak...when they see him walking down the street & bolt their doors & windows :lol:
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Re: WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME ABOUT THIS.... GET OFF UR ASSE

Postby Pops » Fri 25 Aug 2006, 15:54:04

Don’t shout, please, it is impolite.

What exactly should we organize?
The legitimate object of government, is to do for a community of people, whatever they need to have done, but can not do, at all, or can not, so well do, for themselves -- in their separate, and individual capacities.
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Postby Dreamtwister » Fri 25 Aug 2006, 15:59:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('strider3700', 'w')hat would telling the entire world actually accomplish?


You mean besides total anarchy?

Sert, you are freaking out right now, and rightfully so. Now, imagine if everyone in the industrialized world were freaking out right now, just like you are.

Frightening picture, isn't it? Now you know why word is spreading so slowly. Dropping a PR bomb on a billion people like that can only cause chaos.
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Re: WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME ABOUT THIS.... GET OFF UR ASSE

Postby EnergyUnlimited » Fri 25 Aug 2006, 16:05:14

Why don't I go and say everywhere about PO?
1. Very few would listen.
2. Many would consider me to be a maniac or something...
3. Peoples hate bad news (in past they often shot messanger of bad news, or at least lashed him).
4. This knowledge will not help the public much. If it was widely distributed and officially endorsed, massive panic would result faster, than need to be. No positive gain under this scenario.
5. Authorities DO KNOW about this, therefore some preparations are already made (for example Dick Cheney sold big part of his dollar denominated assets and purchased those denominated in Swiss franks...I love to be sarcastic sometimes).
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Re: WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME ABOUT THIS.... GET OFF UR ASSE

Postby Seraphim » Fri 25 Aug 2006, 16:06:07

I've tried several times to convince my own family. Most don't consider it possible, or they act like it's just not important. Because after all the goverment will fix it right? :cry:

My father thinks it's a load of crock and 'We aren't running out of oil.'

I wish daddy was right... :(
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Re: WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME ABOUT THIS.... GET OFF UR ASSE

Postby caliginousface » Fri 25 Aug 2006, 16:09:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RonMN', 'G')ive Sert a week...he'll understand once he's shunned by every person he ever knew...when they look at him like a freak...when they see him walking down the street & bolt their doors & windows :lol:


Parents, friends, and schoolmates gave me crap for talking about such gibberish!

:-D

Ah well, what can one do.
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Re: WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME ABOUT THIS.... GET OFF UR ASSE

Postby strider3700 » Fri 25 Aug 2006, 16:15:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dreamtwister', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('strider3700', 'w')hat would telling the entire world actually accomplish?


You mean besides total anarchy?


Possibly we'd get anarchy, however I'd put my money on a collective "meh" from the world as they changed the channel looking for something more interesting like a friends rerun or maybe the new season of survivor.
shame on us, doomed from the start
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Re: WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME ABOUT THIS.... GET OFF UR ASSE

Postby eastbay » Fri 25 Aug 2006, 16:16:11

You will find soon discover why we don't tell very many people.

I mention it to fewer and fewer all the time. In fact, I don't recall the last person I mentioned it to.

Anyhow, it isn't worth the grief and ill-will. Simmon's Four Horsemen are getting ready to saddle-up, so everyone will find out pretty soon regardless.
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Re: WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME ABOUT THIS.... GET OFF UR ASSE

Postby BigTex » Fri 25 Aug 2006, 16:19:27

As clear as it is once it comes into focus, PO is a remarkably difficult concept to convey to people WHO ARE NOT READY TO HEAR IT. There are many theories about why people are resistant to the message, but it's not unlike finding out there is no Santa Claus (sorry if I ruined it for anyone)--at first (age 8 or 9 maybe) you suspect that there may be something fishy about it but you merrily go along with it because you get a bunch of extra presents every year.

Most people are at the 8 or 9 year old Santa Claus with cheap oil and telling them how it really is is often perceived as being a hurtful thing to do. They're like "look, I like the imaginary world I live in and YOU are trying to ruin it, you pessimist doomer."

"No", I say, "I am just trying to start a conversation about the issue and if there is anything I have missed maybe you can help me clear it up. It may not be that bad, just show me the flaw in the reasoning. I'm interested."

They look at me as if to say "You no good pessimist doomer. This is America. Our way of life is not negotiable."

Sigh.
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Re: WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME ABOUT THIS.... GET OFF UR ASSE

Postby rostov » Fri 25 Aug 2006, 16:21:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sert', 'I')M SO SHOCKED THAT YHIS COMMUNITY DID NOT INFORM ME QUICKER!!! WHY SO LATE, WE ONLY HAVE A FEW MORE YEARS LEFT!!!


Ah Fuck. Another survivalist wannabe to contend with post-PO.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')HY NOTHING IN THE MEDIA?? WHY ISN'T ANYONE ON THE STREETS BEING MADE AWARE OF THIS!!


We are not the media, and vice versa.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')M VERY DISAPPOINTED IN THIS COMMUNITY!! :x :x :x :x


Our fault? Ours?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'U') SHOULD DO MORE TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT THERE, AS SOON AS I FOUND OUT I HAVE BEEN ALL OVER THE PLACE TRYING TO TELL AS MANY PEOPLE AS I CAN!! THIS IS A MESSAGE WHICH NEEDS TO REACH THE WHOLE WORLD!! SO FOR GOD SAKE PLEASE GET OF UR ASSES AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS!!!! INFORM THE PUBLIC!! GET ORGANIZED!!!!!!!!!!! :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:


Been there done that.

Let me know if you manage to hit about 10% success rate of getting someone to listen to you, and hit about 1% success rate of someone doing something about it.

Cold beer awaits you here in PO.com to share your woes.
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Re: WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME ABOUT THIS.... GET OFF UR ASSE

Postby Grifter » Fri 25 Aug 2006, 16:21:04

There are 13943 registered members on this site out of millions of people connected to the net.

How many members are on myspace? I honestly don't know the answer but just think about that.

And yeah, everyones gonna think you're crazy. Learn from some of the people here. Try to be subtle and don't type in capitals.

good luck
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Postby rwwff » Fri 25 Aug 2006, 16:28:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', 'Y')ou will find soon discover why we don't tell very many people.


Don't tell anyone. Sheesh. You just end up looking like a loony; and the problem that there is a serious overlap between PO folks and CT folks only makes it that much worse.

Just make accomodations in your preperations for those you care about. When the time comes, it'll look like your small "hobbies" just accidently turned out to be really useful. Don't say to them, "I told you so.", just smile and be happy that you get to help the people you love survive in a time when survival is not guaranteed.

If a relative brings it up, just nod and smile, and ask them if they want to help you plant some more fruit trees this winter....
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Re: WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME ABOUT THIS.... GET OFF UR ASSE

Postby sert » Fri 25 Aug 2006, 16:45:04

ok people i understand all that your saying, but i haven't come accross the type of people ur talkinga bout, i personally have done it online i find it makes more sense to people when u can provide the matierial instantly and the videos and so on. i use msn to convey the message. add as many people as u can to ur msn, and make them see the message!! i have told about 16 people so far, and i have supplied them with the evidence and information needed to 1. shock them 2. they can successfully shock the next person they tell.
and i believe this model will work for us, only if we become organized, imagine if just 25% of that go tell another 16 people, sooner or later we will get a lot of people in a short space of time. i found this on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QovBLFZhQME
scared some of the people, PERFECT :twisted: , it wakes them up.

yes so, i think go to myspace , make friends get e-mails and spread the message. its easier to do it online.
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Postby Grifter » Fri 25 Aug 2006, 16:51:34

:lol: :lol:

That video is BRILLIANT.
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Postby sert » Fri 25 Aug 2006, 16:58:46

grifter i know, i have watched over and over again like 10 times, its funny but all true, i love that video.

and u said that people will think im crazy, actually they didn't think i was crazy i just told them about what will happen, and why and gave them the evidence, the key is to make them scared enough for them to want to read what ever u got, then when they read and find out its not a lie, then we have a new messenger, and we go on from there, i actually found that most of the people i infromed and told to pass on the message have past it on, so i got to say people are willing to listen its just how u tell them.
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Postby Grifter » Fri 25 Aug 2006, 17:10:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sert', 'g')rifter i know, i have watched over and over again like 10 times, its funny but all true, i love that video.

and u said that people will think im crazy, actually they didn't think i was crazy i just told them about what will happen, and why and gave them the evidence, the key is to make them scared enough for them to want to read what ever u got, then when they read and find out its not a lie, then we have a new messenger, and we go on from there, i actually found that most of the people i infromed and told to pass on the message have past it on, so i got to say people are willing to listen its just how u tell them.


Hey thats all good, I think :?

The world is gonna get very local in the future. I made a mistake of talking to people I know about it in full on doomer mode, even in a board room man! sheesh, I look back and feel embarrassed. But I think it important that those closest to you are with you on some level.

But its done and I am not called crazy now. I'm thought of as a bit strange but then maybe I am. I still have a job.

What you're doing is ok I think. Do try to imagine what it would be like if everyone knew about it right now though. spreading the word feels like the right thing to do but may not necessarily be so.
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Re: WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME ABOUT THIS.... GET OFF UR ASSE

Postby EnergyHog » Fri 25 Aug 2006, 17:28:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sert', 'W')HY DID I HAVE TO FIND OUT ABOUT PEAK OIL ALL ON MY OWN? I JUST HAPPENED TO STUMPLE INTO IT, I KINDA HEARD ABOUT IT B4 BUT I DIDN'T KNOW ITS EFFECTS WAS THIS BAD!! WHEN I STARTED READING IT ONLY THEN DID I FIND OUT THE TRUTH!! IM SO SHOCKED THAT YHIS COMMUNITY DID NOT INFORM ME QUICKER!!! WHY SO LATE, WE ONLY HAVE A FEW MORE YEARS LEFT!!! WHY NOTHING IN THE MEDIA?? WHY ISN'T ANYONE ON THE STREETS BEING MADE AWARE OF THIS!! IM VERY DISAPPOINTED IN THIS COMMUNITY!! :x :x :x :x U SHOULD DO MORE TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT THERE, AS SOON AS I FOUND OUT I HAVE BEEN ALL OVER THE PLACE TRYING TO TELL AS MANY PEOPLE AS I CAN!! THIS IS A MESSAGE WHICH NEEDS TO REACH THE WHOLE WORLD!! SO FOR GOD SAKE PLEASE GET OF UR ASSES AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS!!!! INFORM THE PUBLIC!! GET ORGANIZED!!!!!!!!!!! :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:



Of course you just stumbled onto it, how do you think the rest of us found out?

You will soon find that telling everyone just makes them dislike your crazy ass. You'll be called a doomsayer, a skeptic, negative, chicken little, etc. They'll tell you that oil runs out about every 20 years. They'll tell you there's a million solutions. They'll do anything but listen because now that you believe in PO, you are officially CRAZY. So welcome to the club.

I would bet that less than half of 1 percent of the population will ever do anything because of or related to averting the consequences of peak oil.

By the way, easy on the caps lock.
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