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The big Domino's

Unread postby NEOPO » Sat 19 Aug 2006, 00:18:57

Talking about the only game in town folks.
Neocon strategy.

Read this and let us discuss please.
Iran-Iraq War

and we wonder why Iran hates us ;-)
So 20 years later we bust iraqs ass for contraband we gave them in the first place...good stuff...

Wow how soon we forget or in my case never really knew the whole story and that is not an attempt to suggest that Wiki is never wrong but it certainly was informative ;-)

Its almost as if Matt Savinar had made a webpage covering Iran Iraq ;-)

Reagan helped to start the shit then he ended it august of an election year hahah...

Your thoughts please and please only post if you have read all/most of the link page thanks.
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Re: The big Domino's

Unread postby rogerhb » Sat 19 Aug 2006, 02:49:12

Robert Fisk documents this well.

The West kept stoking the flames to keep it going.

Without the West's interference Iraq would have fallen to the revolutionary Iran, not deemed good for the West.
"Complex problems have simple, easy to understand, wrong answers." - Henry Louis Mencken
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Re: The big Domino's

Unread postby Miki » Sat 19 Aug 2006, 09:14:53

The US is known for those kinds of hypocritical manipulations. Everyone knows that they supported Bin Laden when it was convenient to them; they even allowed Iran to do lots of experiments with nuclear stuff right before the Iranian Revolution, and they supported Saddam while it was in their best interest to do so. A lot of people think that they have been instigating a civil war in Irak, as the chaos would make it easier to steal the oil and put their puppets in the government.

The US has *never* fought a war for democracy or human rights. On the contrary, they have fought/instigated several wars that undermined both democracy and human rights. Whenever they interfere in a conflict is because they have some interest behind it. The only ones that ignore that are the Americans. It is easy to brainwash people when they're too busy paying their debts to have the energy/time to take a critical look at their government's foreign policies.
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Re: The big Domino's

Unread postby Miki » Sat 19 Aug 2006, 12:00:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'T')alking about the only game in town folks.
Neocon strategy.

Read this and let us discuss please.
Iran-Iraq War

and we wonder why Iran hates us ;-)
So 20 years later we bust iraqs ass for contraband we gave them in the first place...good stuff...

Wow how soon we forget or in my case never really knew the whole story and that is not an attempt to suggest that Wiki is never wrong but it certainly was informative ;-)


Actually, it is much worse than that:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')our juvenile antics offered no context to your audience and completely neglected all relevant history. You did not mention that the much talked of democracy that President Bush allegedly wishes the Iranian people have was very much in evidence before then Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadegh was overthrown in a CIA coup in 1953. Objecting to Mossadegh's perfectly legal nationalization of Iranian oil, President Eisenhower replaced democracy with the Shah of Iran, who achieved a record of torture and murder that Amnesty International rated the worst in the world, while Iran nearly sank into the sea from the massive load of armaments sent on by Washington. After the Shah was overthrown, the U.S. backed Saddam Hussein's eight-year was against Iran, with hundreds of thousands of Iranians killed. I hope I'm not going out on a limb in suggesting that these policies just might have something to do with "why they hate us."

The boundless arrogance you displayed is similar to that evidenced by President Bush Senior after the U.S.S. Vincennes shot down an Iranian civilian plane in 1988, killing 290 people on board. Said Bush the Greater, "I'll never apologize for the United States of America. I don't care what the facts are."


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Re: The big Domino's

Unread postby Jack » Sat 19 Aug 2006, 15:57:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')resident Eisenhower replaced democracy with the Shah of Iran, who achieved a record of torture and murder that Amnesty International rated the worst in the world,


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Look into the kindly eyes of Shahanshah Arya-Mehr Riza Pahlavi. Surely you can see that this good man - the legitimate ruler of Iran - would never do such things. Tut, tut.

I can only say that I'm proud that America sold this saint of a man the arms he needed for legitimate self defense. If only we had sold him more, so he could have prevented the present usurpers from leading Iran astray.
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Re: The big Domino's

Unread postby Miki » Sat 19 Aug 2006, 16:55:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', 'I') can only say that I'm proud that America sold this saint of a man the arms he needed for legitimate self defense. If only we had sold him more, so he could have prevented the present usurpers from leading Iran astray.


I know. A democratically elected government that has the interests of the Arab people as a priority, controls a good part of the oil supply, and refuses to submit to US imperialism should be very threatening for America.

But don't worry. Bush & co. are making a great job of demonizing Ahmadinejad. Given that the US and Iran have not had any talks in the last 30 years, everything the Irani president says can be interpreted to fit the "war on terror" agenda. After all, he won't have any chance to explain his statements.

Hopefully, your predictions about Aug 22 are true, and the Irani president has some surprises left for America :).
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Re: The big Domino's

Unread postby erl » Sat 19 Aug 2006, 17:06:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Miki', 'B')ut don't worry. Bush & co. are making a great job of demonizing Ahmadinejad.


He doesn't need our help. He's doing a wonderful job of representing himself as a demon all on his own.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')opefully, your predictions about Aug 22 are true, and the Irani president has some surprises left for America :).


Thank you for your good wishes, Miki. Now, pat yourself on your little head and go back to being the chief propagandist for Hezbollah.

Support Al-Jazeera - because terrorists need a voice too.
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Re: The big Domino's

Unread postby Miki » Sat 19 Aug 2006, 17:24:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('erl', 'H')e doesn't need our help. He's doing a wonderful job of representing himself as a demon all on his own.


That's an interesting assertion. I listened to the comments from viewers after the CBS interview last week, and 80% of them had a positive view of the guy or felt that the US needed to talk to Iran (meaning that they felt the guy had something legitimate to say and a desire for peace negotiations). Now if that was the result of *one* interview by a biased Jew, who made it a point to ask as many leading questions as possible, I don't want to think what a few more interviews like those would do to potential American support of a preemptive war against Iran. In fact, the CBS interview received little promotion, just to make sure the message is not spread.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hank you for your good wishes, Miki. Now, pat yourself on your little head and go back to being the chief propagandist for Hezbollah.


No, thank you. Hisballah already won. We need to focus the PR on Iran now.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')i]Support Al-Jazeera - because terrorists need a voice too.


Yep. We all have a voice in Lebanon, even the terrorists. In America it's a little different. The mainstream media has lots of limitations on what they can and can't say. I understand your despair, but don't lose the faith. Maybe one day you'll be like us.
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Re: The big Domino's

Unread postby erl » Sun 20 Aug 2006, 01:36:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Miki', 'M')aybe one day you'll be like us.


Nice try.
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Re: The big Domino's

Unread postby NEOPO » Sun 20 Aug 2006, 22:15:20

erl's and anti erl's are a dime a dozen.
Allowing erl's to exist and prove their own idiocy makes you very special indeed ;-)

Furthermore Lets look at the long history of the country we know as Iraq:

History of Iraq

this part in particular caught my eye:

WIKI - During the latter part of the 1990s the UN considered relaxing the sanctions imposed because of the hardships suffered by ordinary Iraqis. According to UN estimates, between 500,000 and 1.2 million children died[5] during the years of the sanctions. The Unites States used its veto in the UN security council to block the proposal to lift the sanctions because of the continued failure of Iraq to verify disarmament. However, an oil for food program was established in 1996 to ease the effects of sanctions.

Highlighted by me.

Genocide is the Neocon solution it seems and Neocons rule more then just America.
Yeah we all know that those children were responsible for Iraq's non compliance with UN weapons inspectors trying desperately to find the same biological weapons that the U.S. and the rest of the world sold to Saddam.
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Re: The big Domino's

Unread postby erl » Sun 20 Aug 2006, 22:19:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'e')rl's and anti erl's are a dime a dozen.


My goodness, that's profound!

Ah, well, I'll leave you two to your mutual admiration society.
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Re: The big Domino's

Unread postby Miki » Mon 21 Aug 2006, 08:56:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('erl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Miki', 'M')aybe one day you'll be like us.


Nice try.


Hmm...I see that you have plenty of arguments to support your points. Perhaps you think that because you're American that makes you infallible, so you don't really need to explain anything?
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