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New Peak Oil Ad

Unread postby Serendipity » Mon 07 Aug 2006, 07:59:18

Went to the theather this week end. Some trailers and ad before the beginning of the movie.

Large shot about the Easter Island with Moais. No voice over yet.

Being a good peakoiler, every time I see something about Easter Island I think about die off, canibalism and other nice things.

Since this was before a Walt Disney movie, I expected it was about a car, a watch or whatever..

But it was about * Peak oil *. Gasp !

There was a small summary about the crash of the Maois civilization, they explicitely talked about the lack of wood, and then more generally than all energy ressources were not infinite. They didn't say oil or gas specifically but that was pretty transparent. The closing lines were that EDF invested in renewable energy.

( I don't know if this ad is on TV since I don't have one. )

Unfortunaltely the video are in French only, I haven't found a subtitled one.

If anyone find a good translation of the voice over, feel free to post.


I am pretty shocked in fact. You go to see a family movie and an ad about Peak Oil pops up. My doomerosity level has suddenly increased.. a lot !

It means that the situation is that bad...

Link to the video :
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/se ... deo/274833

Link to the site :
http://www.edf.fr/html/paques/Internet/index.html
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Re: New Peak Oil Ad

Unread postby Leanan » Mon 07 Aug 2006, 09:04:58

Interesting.

I saw a new ad about global warming on TV this morning. It was sponsored by several different groups. One was an environmental group, one was Pat Robertson, the rightwing Christian evangelist. (He's seen the light on global warming after the recent heat wave.)

It shows a man standing in front of an oncoming train. The narrator says something about global warming not being a serious problem for 30 years, so "It won't affect me." The man steps out of the path of the train, and you see that standing behind him, hidden from view until then, is a little girl, with the train bearing down on her.

EDIT: You can see the ad here.
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Re: New Peak Oil Ad

Unread postby Doly » Mon 07 Aug 2006, 09:18:15

So EDF is peak oil and gas aware.

That explains why they have been sending me all those offers that I've immediately joined as a good peaker, like fixed prices for a couple of years, and then metering my electricity more exactly.

The interesting thing is that this advert seems specifically targeted to peakers. Your average clueless person would probably not get so quickly what the advert is about. Or maybe they're targeting people that are half-aware, to convince them that what their partner/friend/close relative is saying is actually correct.

You know, I always said that peak oil awareness would dawn gradually on people, because there would be no official announcement, just more and more comments about it on the media.

What I never foresaw is that big companies would do part of the awareness campaign.

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Re: New Peak Oil Ad

Unread postby Grifter » Mon 07 Aug 2006, 18:14:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', '
')You know, I always said that peak oil awareness would dawn gradually on people, because there would be no official announcement, just more and more comments about it on the media.



I am glad you said that. I think people generally wont be peak oil aware, even with the odd ad like that.

I hope you're right.
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Re: New Peak Oil Ad

Unread postby sameu » Mon 07 Aug 2006, 22:31:50

this is scary :-)

just a couple of weeks ago I was talking to a friend about po and another friend told her the story of the eastern islands

now this 8O

and it's true, most people won't grasp the true message, namely, our society is at risk, we face a possible similar catastrophe like on the easterns islands, we're in deep shit

in a way funny, they're bringing the po news in such a way nobody will notice how dire this message in fact is
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Re: New Peak Oil Ad

Unread postby lorenzo » Wed 09 Aug 2006, 11:58:42

To those who have read Jared Diamond's "Collapse": have you also read chapter 9, about Tokugawa Japan, the Papuan highlanders, Tikopia?

And if so, is there any reason to believe that we will not succeed? Why would the only option be disaster, doom and Easter island?
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Re: New Peak Oil Ad

Unread postby rwwff » Wed 09 Aug 2006, 12:13:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lorenzo', 'W')hy would the only option be disaster, doom and Easter island?


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Re: New Peak Oil Ad

Unread postby Ingenuity_Gap » Wed 09 Aug 2006, 12:38:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lorenzo', 'T')o those who have read Jared Diamond's "Collapse": have you also read chapter 9, about Tokugawa Japan, the Papuan highlanders, Tikopia?

And if so, is there any reason to believe that we will not succeed? Why would the only option be disaster, doom and Easter island?


Because people like you still think that technology will save us, so we don't have to give up our twisted way of life.

Just replace oil with ethanol, biodiesel, coal, etc. and we are back in business.
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Re: New Peak Oil Ad

Unread postby grabby » Wed 09 Aug 2006, 12:48:12

PEAK OIL is the end of CHEAP OIL

Biofuels cannot give us back cheap oil.


They can't even change when we run a little lower on real oil.

When that happens they are not going to have block parties in the street/
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Re: New Peak Oil Ad

Unread postby mekrob » Wed 09 Aug 2006, 12:49:11

Sameu:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'e')asterns islands


I believe it was "Easter Island", no?
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Re: New Peak Oil Ad

Unread postby Ludi » Wed 09 Aug 2006, 12:59:23

oops
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Re: New Peak Oil Ad

Unread postby Ludi » Wed 09 Aug 2006, 12:59:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lorenzo', 'T')o those who have read Jared Diamond's "Collapse": have you also read chapter 9, about Tokugawa Japan, the Papuan highlanders, Tikopia?

And if so, is there any reason to believe that we will not succeed? Why would the only option be disaster, doom and Easter island?


Yes, there is every reason to believe we will succeed if we are willing to adjust our way of life to the LIMITS of our planet, as the Tikopians adjusted their behaviors to the LIMITS of their small island.

If we do not adjust our behavior to the LIMITS of this finite planet, then we are guaranteed doom and disaster.

(As Monte and many others have pointed out over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over - to YOU, lorenzo)
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Re: New Peak Oil Ad

Unread postby Leanan » Wed 09 Aug 2006, 16:31:42

The reason I think we will not succeed is that we are not Tikopia.

All of the Diamond's "successful" societies were isolated. They were all on islands, with little contact with the outside world.

You can see how this would be an advantage. If you are sustainable, and your neighbors are not, it won't be long before they'll use their unsustainable guns, tanks, helicopter gunships, nuclear bombs, and sheer numbers to overwhelm you and take your resources.

Societies in conflict are forced into an unsustainable arm race. Only societies which are isolated from other societies can avoid it.

Unfortunately, no society is isolated these days.
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Re: New Peak Oil Ad

Unread postby sameu » Wed 09 Aug 2006, 20:40:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mekrob', 'S')ameu:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'e')asterns islands


I believe it was "Easter Island", no?


well yes that's the one I meant
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Re: New Peak Oil Ad

Unread postby peaker_2005 » Thu 10 Aug 2006, 10:30:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Leanan', 'T')he reason I think we will not succeed is that we are not Tikopia.

All of the Diamond's "successful" societies were isolated. They were all on islands, with little contact with the outside world.

You can see how this would be an advantage. If you are sustainable, and your neighbors are not, it won't be long before they'll use their unsustainable guns, tanks, helicopter gunships, nuclear bombs, and sheer numbers to overwhelm you and take your resources.

Societies in conflict are forced into an unsustainable arm race. Only societies which are isolated from other societies can avoid it.

Unfortunately, no society is isolated these days.


True, but the effects of Peak Oil are going to reimpose isolation on some parts of the world.

Australia's probably one of them. I figure it has a decent chance of making it through. Will there be a correction? Absolutely!

But ultimately I think we'll pull through. It'll take some time though, and the road there's gonna be mighty rough...

I don't see anybody new trying to conquer the place. There's a reason the Aborigines were left alone for so long... 60% + of the place is desert.

A corrected population would probably be able to grow enough food and generate power for itself (Australia happens to be the world's mine atm. We have just about everything you can think of. Just not much oil.
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