[pimptaddy]

this peak oil thing smells of liberalism gone wild. ALl you people whine about wastes of energy, yet if you had wealth it would not matter. It's always rich man wastes this, and the rich are burning 3 plasma tv.s. Blah blah..... This is indeed a liberal apocalypse. Human nature is at play here. If all of you were making 200k a year, you would leave this site and spend money. You would buy a new SUV and huge home. Get those status symbols to attract the golddiggers and get lots of women. Bottom line here is this: It's only wasting when someone else is doing it. If you are using(wasting) then its fine. Anything to attract a mate with your wealth and use(waste) of energy. Either way, the rich will never stop, and the U.S. government will never do anything. Firstly, they can't and they won't until it starts to hurt the rich. The poor will get smacked down by demand destruction and no one will care outside of that group. Most of you are here on this site because this will hurt you. You are more than likely not making a huge salary. But if you were making 200k a year, you would be in some huge house, with 2 SUVs and 3 plasmas. You would be with that hot girl that is golddigging on you. But you dont care, do you? You can't beat human nature, it always predicts the next move. Enjoy the great descent into the mad max future. Just remember, the rich dude that has all that stuff, will not even care if you starve.

[clueless]

Can't say I disagree with you !

Anybody else out there fiddling on the Titanic ?

[shakespear1]

I suspect you are only partly right. People need to live and at the same time notice that something is wrong with the way things are going. Some jump off the train, others hang on and shout, others just stay on the train deep in sleep.

Such is life. At least here those that see a problem have a chance to exchange view and allow others to stumbl on the converstation.

[Bas]

I have alot of affinity with liberal philosophy, but I also know american Liberalism has little to do with this.

This planning for the future seems pretty useless to me, and I believe more in marketforces changing people's behavior than in lecturing or politics doing it. (well, ok Europe has had huge taxes on gas for ages, and I do think not wasting too much is a personal virtue as long as it doesn't become neurotic)...

[JoeW]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pimptaddy', 't')his peak oil thing smells of liberalism gone wild. ALl you people whine about wastes of energy, yet if you had wealth it would not matter. It's always rich man wastes this, and the rich are burning 3 plasma tv.s.

[Gigashadow]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pimptaddy', 't')his peak oil thing smells of liberalism gone wild. ALl you people whine about wastes of energy, yet if you had wealth it would not matter. It's always rich man wastes this, and the rich are burning 3 plasma tv.s. Blah blah..... This is indeed a liberal apocalypse. Human nature is at play here. If all of you were making 200k a year, you would leave this site and spend money. You would buy a new SUV and huge home. Get those status symbols to attract the golddiggers and get lots of women. Bottom line here is this: It's only wasting when someone else is doing it. If you are using(wasting) then its fine. Anything to attract a mate with your wealth and use(waste) of energy. Either way, the rich will never stop, and the U.S. government will never do anything. Firstly, they can't and they won't until it starts to hurt the rich. The poor will get smacked down by demand destruction and no one will care outside of that group. Most of you are here on this site because this will hurt you. You are more than likely not making a huge salary. But if you were making 200k a year, you would be in some huge house, with 2 SUVs and 3 plasmas. You would be with that hot girl that is golddigging on you. But you dont care, do you? You can't beat human nature, it always predicts the next move. Enjoy the great descent into the mad max future. Just remember, the rich dude that has all that stuff, will not even care if you starve.

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JoeW', 'T')he rich are burning plasma TV's???
Those bastards.

[hippiegunlover]

Yep Roger, and I think that's what's wrong with pimptaddy, too many toxic fumes from burning up those tvs. Stupid rich people, they are for watching, not burning.

So I'm a woman, does that mean I would still get "hot girls" or can I opt for a man? Maybe I will get a job

[mekrob]

Pimptaddy,

I'm one of the biggest doomers here (I think). While I myself am not wealthy, I am definately connected. Most of my outer family is very wealthy, makes more than 100k a year. My uncle is easily a multimillionaire and probably makes more than a million dollar a year. He's offered to help get me 100k + jobs for the first year and I'm only 19. So I'd definately say that if I wanted money, I could easily get it, and plenty of it. I'm not just secure now, but even in the most doomerish scenario. Or if we find a way out, I'm still good.

But you know what? I don't want it. Instead I keep my laptop on the lowest power setting, keep the lights off, don't use that much heat/air, hardly ever drive, and I try my best to not eat so much meat (less energy intensive) and instead eat more rice, grains, noodles, veggies, etc.

Low-energy > SUV & McMansion

[PrairieMule]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pimptaddy', 't')his peak oil thing smells of liberalism gone wild. ALl you people whine about wastes of energy, yet if you had wealth it would not matter. It's always rich man wastes this, and the rich are burning 3 plasma tv.s. Blah blah..... This is indeed a liberal apocalypse. Human nature is at play here. If all of you were making 200k a year, you would leave this site and spend money. You would buy a new SUV and huge home. Get those status symbols to attract the golddiggers and get lots of women. Bottom line here is this: It's only wasting when someone else is doing it. If you are using(wasting) then its fine. Anything to attract a mate with your wealth and use(waste) of energy. Either way, the rich will never stop, and the U.S. government will never do anything. Firstly, they can't and they won't until it starts to hurt the rich. The poor will get smacked down by demand destruction and no one will care outside of that group. Most of you are here on this site because this will hurt you. You are more than likely not making a huge salary. But if you were making 200k a year, you would be in some huge house, with 2 SUVs and 3 plasmas. You would be with that hot girl that is golddigging on you. But you dont care, do you? You can't beat human nature, it always predicts the next move. Enjoy the great descent into the mad max future. Just remember, the rich dude that has all that stuff, will not even care if you starve.

[jupiters_release]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mekrob', '
')I'm one of the biggest doomers here (I think).

I'm not just secure now, but even in the most doomerish scenario.

[Kingcoal]

This is a dumb topic. On this site we discuss hydrocarbons, how they are the very air our society breathes and how our society will react to suffocation. This site has nothing to do with class warfare or environmentalism, those are different topics. For instance, I'm a peaker who is living it up. I burn barrels of oil in my backyard parties. I drive huge, fuel guzzling vehicles and spend all my money on fast women, gambling and booze.

[Tyler_JC]

First off, Mekrob, take the money and use it for the greater good. Donate whatever you consider to be excessive compensation.

More to the point...

Clearly the term Purchasing Power Parity is largely absent from the general consciousness.

Purchasing Power Parity is extremely important when discussing issues of class divide. The cost of living of different countries and locations inside of countries is huge! What is considered poverty line in the United States is considered a decent wage in some European countries. $100,000 a year in Southern California gets you a much lower standard of living than that same amount earned in Kansas.

When people call 100k a year rich, they just aren't living in reality. In San Diego, the average house costs around $750,000.

If you have a fixed rate mortgage at 6% and a downpayment of $50,000, you will likely pay in excess of $50,000 a year for the mortgage alone!

Meaning, you would be left with around $30,000 a year after taxes to pay for all of your expenses...yeah...not rich.

[emersonbiggins]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', 'W')hen people call 100k a year rich, they just aren't living in reality. In San Diego, the average house costs around $750,000.

If you have a fixed rate mortgage at 6% and a downpayment of $50,000, you will likely pay in excess of $50,000 a year for the mortgage alone!

[mekrob]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jupiters_release', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mekrob', '
')I'm one of the biggest doomers here (I think).

I'm not just secure now, but even in the most doomerish scenario.

[rwwff]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', 'W')hen people call 100k a year rich, they just aren't living in reality. In San Diego, the average house costs around $750,000.

If you have a fixed rate mortgage at 6% and a downpayment of $50,000, you will likely pay in excess of $50,000 a year for the mortgage alone

[PrairieMule]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', ' ') $100,000 a year in Southern California gets you a much lower standard of living than that same amount earned in Kansas.

When people call 100k a year rich, they just aren't living in reality. In San Diego, the average house costs around $750,000.

If you have a fixed rate mortgage at 6% and a downpayment of $50,000, you will likely pay in excess of $50,000 a year for the mortgage alone!

Meaning, you would be left with around $30,000 a year after taxes to pay for all of your expenses...yeah...not rich.

[Tyler_JC]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rwwff', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', 'W')hen people call 100k a year rich, they just aren't living in reality. In San Diego, the average house costs around $750,000.

If you have a fixed rate mortgage at 6% and a downpayment of $50,000, you will likely pay in excess of $50,000 a year for the mortgage alone

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrairieMule', 'O')ne day the music will stop and will not be enough chairs for all those that live in California...

[rwwff]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rwwff', 'N')ope. Its San Diego that isn't living in reality. I'd never pay more than $100,000 for a house. If I couldn't buy one for that, I'd leave the area. I'd rather work at some McDonalds somewhere than make $100k a year and have to just give it all to the bank.

But hey, if some folks like being slaves to bankers, I suppose its their perogative.