[Specop_007]

Good read. And probably alot of truth to it. I dont think we'll see an end to the fighting anytime soon

Article

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')HIS IS JUST THE START OF A SHOWDOWN BETWEEN THE WEST AND THE REST
by Amir Taheri
The Times, London
August 2, 2006


MANY IN THE WEST see the mini-war between Israel and Hezbollah, now in its fourth week, as another episode in a tedious saga of an Arab-Jewish conflict that began with the creation of the state of Israel in 1948, a political version of the "original sin". The conventional wisdom in the West is that the whole tale would end if Israel were to return the occupied territories to the Palestinians, allowing them to create a state of their own.

But that analysis does not reflect the Middle East's new realities. All the wars in that region of the past century, including the one between Iran and Iraq in the 1980s, revolved around secular issues — border disputes, the control of territory and water resources, security and diplomatic relations. Although fought in the name of nationalism or pan-Arab aspirations, none had a messianic dimension.

[Gigashadow]

"The first two wars of the new century in the Middle East, however, were ideological ones. The United States toppled the Taleban in Afghanistan and the Saddamites in Iraq not in pursuit of territory but in the name of an idea: democracy."

ahahahahaha! How can anyone believe this crap? The US is not interested in spreading democracy. If it were, there are plenty of other places it could have started, that weren't anywhere near oil resources. It also would not ever have overthrown elected governments it didn't happen to like.

[lateralus]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gigashadow', 't')he Saddamites

[rwwff]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lateralus', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gigashadow', 't')he Saddamites

[lateralus]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rwwff', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lateralus', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gigashadow', 't')he Saddamites

[Battle_Scarred_Galactico]

Needs to include oil, everything revolves around it.

[Miki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', '
')
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A') westernised, democratic Lebanon, on the other hand, could become the graveyard of Hezbollah and its messianic ideology.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Miki', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', '
')
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A') westernised, democratic Lebanon, on the other hand, could become the graveyard of Hezbollah and its messianic ideology.

[Gigashadow]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', '
')Course, another thing that hurts is the fact that the Koran specifically discusses killing non believers.

Religion of Peace my ass.

[PrairieMule]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gigashadow', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', '
')Course, another thing that hurts is the fact that the Koran specifically discusses killing non believers.

Religion of Peace my ass.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gigashadow', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', '
')Course, another thing that hurts is the fact that the Koran specifically discusses killing non believers.

Religion of Peace my ass.

[Miki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'T')he guy is Iranian.
I think he knows more about the situation then just about anyone..

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Miki', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'T')he guy is Iranian.
I think he knows more about the situation then just about anyone..

[Miki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gigashadow', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', '
')Course, another thing that hurts is the fact that the Koran specifically discusses killing non believers.

Religion of Peace my ass.

[Miki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'S')o we should assume you know all about whats going on in Lebanon just because your Lebanese?
Please.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Miki', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'S')o we should assume you know all about whats going on in Lebanon just because your Lebanese?
Please.

[Miki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'E')very day.
You continually telll us how Lebanon is not to blame, how Hezbollah are freedom fighters, how Israel is the aggressor. You tell us how terrible the war zone is, although you havent admitted to losing anyone or even seeing any of the damage for that matter. You still have electricity and internet connections.

[Bobbotov]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', ' ')Just because your from Lebanon doesnt mean you know what your talking about.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Miki', '
')It will be my pleasure Spec. Both the Bible and the Torah explicitly prompt people to kill non-believers, as manifested in this verse of the Old Testament/Torah:

Deuteronomy 13:6-10:If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which [is] as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; [Namely], of the gods of the people which [are] round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the [one] end of the earth even unto the [other] end of the earth; Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Miki', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'E')very day.
You continually telll us how Lebanon is not to blame, how Hezbollah are freedom fighters, how Israel is the aggressor. You tell us how terrible the war zone is, although you havent admitted to losing anyone or even seeing any of the damage for that matter. You still have electricity and internet connections.