[gnm]

Yup. so in short we're fscked....

900,00 years of fossil storage used every year? Yikes....!

-G

[Exponent]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('grabby', 'E')very person takes 2 kwh per day average in the US. That is electricy.

but each person drives 2 gallons per day in the us of gasoline or diesel aveage.

each gallon has 35 kwh per gallon
so in gasoline use we use 70 kwh per day

So I have a great idea.

lets take you average joe using 2 kwh per day and give him an electric car, which he can pulg into the grid and charge it up.

suddenly joe sucks 35 time more electricity from the grid than he used to.

(this also would help the electric stressed grid to straighten up)
whats with all these brown outs, I think if we just increase our electriciy use 35 times it would really help all the problems of peak oil and grid overload, dont you?

sure lets try it, never know what is going to happen till you try it.

[some_math_guy]

Ontario's power consumption reached record highs Tuesday, reaching 26,854 megawatts by 4 p.m., smashing the old record of 26,160 megawatts set last year on July 13.
The electricity use prompted the Independent Electricity System Operator to issue a "power warning" and asked residents to cut back until 8 p.m. to prevent brownouts or rotating blackouts.
"That's what we're trying to avoid today, is having to cut voltage or having to cut power in certain parts of the province," IESO spokesperson Terry Young said.
"But that's why we need people's help as well, to cut back on their own demand and try and relieve that strain."

More here: news

[Troyboy1208]

I hear its going to be worse tomorrow

[SILENTTODD]

How many air-conditioners do you have up there?! California reached something like 56,000 Megawatts during our recent heat wave (it has cooled off to a pleasant 80 degrees here in So Cal this week). But we have something like 10 % of the U.S. population and some true desert areas that reached over 110 degrees Fahrenheit!

[Armageddon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('some_math_guy', 'O')ntario's power consumption reached record highs Tuesday, reaching 26,854 megawatts by 4 p.m., smashing the old record of 26,160 megawatts set last year on July 13. The electricity use prompted the Independent Electricity System Operator to issue a "power warning" and asked residents to cut back until 8 p.m. to prevent brownouts or rotating blackouts. "That's what we're trying to avoid today, is having to cut voltage or having to cut power in certain parts of the province," IESO spokesperson Terry Young said. "But that's why we need people's help as well, to cut back on their own demand and try and relieve that strain."
More here: news

[rwwff]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'c')ome to st.louis and we will show you humidity.

[Armageddon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rwwff', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'c')ome to st.louis and we will show you humidity.

[DantesPeak]

A technical fault in Water and Power Development Authority (WAPDA) triggered a nationwide blackout in Pakistan on Sunday.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')akistan hit by major power outage Sun 24 Sep 2006
ISLAMABAD: A technical fault in Water and Power Development Authority (WAPDA) triggered a nationwide blackout in Pakistan on Sunday, a spokesman for the country’s main power utility said. He ruled out sabotage.
"It is a national blackout and we`re trying to find out the fault," said Shafqat Jalil of Pakistan`s Water and Power Development Authority.
"There is no chance of sabotage because had it been so, it would have been reported to us by now," he told media.

[pup55]

It's only a matter of time. Musharraf stuck his neck way out by supporting the US at the time of 9-11, in exchange for some untold number of billions in bribes and/or threats. This is a chaotic land anyway, with some percentage of the nation under control of the warlords who won't let even the Pakistani army in, some percentage under control of the Taliban, Osama quite popular in the streets, and a big, (165 million) hungry, poor population.
CIA factbook

The only compelling reason to pay any attention to them at all is that they are the poster child for what happens to you after you use what little resources you have to develop nuclear weapons. You get political respect that you otherwise would not, you get the opportunity, if you want, to proliferate them to terrorist groups in exchange for oil-derived money, and the hostile neighbors, namely India, leave you alone.

[Heineken]

Pakistan appears to be destabilizing. Its coerced, phoney-baloney "alliance" with the US is as fragile as an eggshell.

[DantesPeak]

Even before today's blackout (whether intentional or not), Stratfor says Musharraf faced more domestic opposition lately, which has lead to a new agreement with the US and possible US military intervention: $this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')eopolitical Diary: Musharraf Girds for a U.S. Operation 22 Sep 2006 ... Musharraf is also desperate to boost his image at home. He hit one of the lowest points in his presidential career following the recent killing of a popular rebel leader that set off a fresh wave of domestic dissent. The United States took the opportunity to swoop in and deliver an ultimatum to Musharraf: give U.S. forces greater access to operate in the region, or be left to fend for himself against a growing opposition. In return for Musharraf's cooperation, the Bush administration would pull some strings to strengthen Musharraf's political standing and regain some lost clout in the government.

It appears that this deal between Washington and Islamabad is well in progress. Musharraf recently announced a peace agreement he made with tribal elders in North Waziristan Agency in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas, which critics worldwide claimed would provide sanctuary to pro-Taliban militants. In spite of these concerns, the Bush administration went out of its way to praise Musharraf for his counterterrorism cooperation, and is even expected to give Pakistan a hefty discount on the sale of F-16 fighter jets and defense equipment during Musharraf's visit to Washington.

He is trying to create plausible deniability in the event of a major U.S. military action on Pakistani soil; he can later claim, he hopes, that Washington had threatened as much and conducted the operations on its own accord. It is not likely to work. Musharraf has been able stay in power by holding himself up as the only one who can protect Pakistan from foreign aggression and navigate the troubled international waters after 9/11. A large-scale U.S. operation on Pakistani soil would nullify that perception, resulting in a severe political backlash. Musharraf would lose a great deal of support as Pakistanis rallied around a campaign to denounce him for selling out to the Americans.

[grink1tt3n]

Power cuts strike western Europe http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6117880.stm]BBC
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')ierre Bornard told the French news agency AFP that two German high-voltage transmission lines failed, causing problems across western Europe. This triggered a "house of cards" style system breakdown, he said. Automatic security systems cut supplies to some customers to avoid a complete blackout. Italy, Belgium and Spain were also affected by the power cuts.

[Free]

Wow thanks, so this was what made the lights flicker - just for a second, but it left me wondering...

[morph]

goodjob the security systems did cut the power. we had a powercut this morning but only after some vandals broke into a substation and wrecked it

[davep]

Oddly, it now appears it was a result of an initial power surge on the grid from German wind turbines due to high winds.

Como seemed to be unaffected though...

[Anthrobus]

we experienced the blackout in munich. It must have been the first time i experienced a blackout since being po-aware and had a very bad feeling when the lights went out suddenly and silently. Flashlight, candles and matches will be arranged better the next time.

Last winter there was a blackout in a small area in germany that lastet for several days in winter. The power companys had to scramble a lot with mobile generators and service teams to avoid the ugliest inconveniences for the ppl. But this is already largely forgotten.

[Starvid]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Anthrobus', 'L')ast winter there was a blackout in a small area in germany that lastet for several days in winter. The power companys had to scramble a lot with mobile generators and service teams to avoid the ugliest inconveniences for the ppl. But this is already largely forgotten.

[Newsseeker]

Richard Duncan has moved the cliff event up to 2007. It will be interesting to see what next year holds.

[TorrKing]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newsseeker', 'R')ichard Duncan has moved the cliff event up to 2007. It will be interesting to see what next year holds.