[Miki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 't')hats right you dont know the difference between war and crime

[nwildmand]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bas', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('nwildmand', '
')
thats right you dont know the difference between war and crime

[Bas]

.......they call it collateral damage. Though only a small part of the total destruction imposed by us (the west) we still manage to kill ten times the number of civilians that the terrorists do....like late Jim Morrison..."the west is the best"




*sarcasm alert*

[da23]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rogerhb', 'T')he ever broad-minded and well travelled Spec (he's been to two states) needn't worry. The third world will be coming to America.

[nwildmand]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Miki', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 't')hats right you dont know the difference between war and crime

[Bas]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('nwildmand', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Miki', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 't')hats right you dont know the difference between war and crime

[Miki]

*mod edit for flaming in inappropriate forum*

[Gorm]

If a military aircraft bombs civilians intentionally, that is within the concept of war, and for that there is intrenatonally rules.

If someone blows up a military truck disgiused as a civilian, they are considered spies, infiltrators or terorrist, and for them, there are no rules.

If a nation is attaced from another nation, it is, in act, a declaration of war. Israel was attaced from lebanon. The lebanese army and goverment showed no ability to stop the attacks but still clamied sumpremacy over the area, and therefore Israel was at war with Lebanon. Not formally but practically. They chose to deal with the situation according to the ruels of war.

If israel had responded by plcacing out carboms, sending in sucidebombers dressed as mullas blowing themselfs up in mosks, and stuff like that, yes, they would have been terrorists.

One migth think that killing civlians when the enemy fighters disgiues among them and are hiding among them is wrong. I do not agree. The fault is on the behalf of those who uses civilans as shielding. And when the civilans helps to hide them, they are no loger cilvilans, no matter what.

[Jack]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrairieMule', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', '
')Look at the bright side - this is, in essence, urban renewal. Older structures are cleared away, creating a shining opportunity to rebuild better than before. That should stimulate business activity and good levels of profits all 'round.

As for the smell - let me suggest strawberry incense. You'll find that the odor of strawberries overwhelms most odors. Given the temperature over there, I wouldn't imagine that odor would be a long-term problem.

In all things, you should look at the bright side. You'll be happier if you do.

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('nwildmand', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Miki', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 't')hats right you dont know the difference between war and crime

[azreal60]

I don't think it was being argued that using civilians as shields was a bad idea. I think, from reading her posts, that she said it never happened. Personally, I think this is a funny new way of terming collateral damage.

"what 100 civilians where killed with that air strike? They must have wanted to jump in front of terrorists to save them, there for they are all terrorists"

You would think that was funny, but I gaurentee you, a better worded version of that is being used right now to exscuse airstrikes in a crowded metropolis. Israel has one of the best commando forces in the world. If they really knew for sure there where hezbollah or other forces in the area, going in and taking them out would be a exersise they could handle. Instead, they choose carpet bombing. To me, this shows a lack of restraint any nation should be wary of using. The USA learned this in vietnam. Soviets learned this in afganistan. Anytime you use the weapons of war against a civilian population, all you get is a losing war. They are kicking their asses now, but like the US learned in iraq, they are making sure there is no one around to Like them afterwards. And commited religious maniacs have alot more patience than the average mother wondering why her son had to die today.

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('azreal60', 'c')ommited religious maniacs have alot more patience than...

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Miki', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Miki', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '2').5 I betchya. We can ship'm some illegals, they'll have that airport back up and runnin in no time for half the cost of anyone else.

[Bas]

10 times the civilians dudes and that's a fact.

[Jack]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bas', '1')0 times the civilians dudes and that's a fact.

[Bas]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bas', '1')0 times the civilians dudes and that's a fact.

[Jack]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bas', '
')I don't think so.

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', 'S')o, since shorter wars are better than longer wars, perhaps the West is following a wise course.

[Jack]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rogerhb', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', 'S')o, since shorter wars are better than longer wars, perhaps the West is following a wise course.

[Bas]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bas', '
')I don't think so.