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I've been wondering...

Unread postby cubes » Fri 21 Jul 2006, 15:04:59

Not exactly PO related but...

When the base rate (or whatever it's called in the states) goes up... why does my mortgage rate (if it's not fixed) go up as well?

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Re: I've been wondering...

Unread postby rwwff » Fri 21 Jul 2006, 15:21:08

Because thats what the mortgage contract that you signed says its supposed to do.
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Re: I've been wondering...

Unread postby cubes » Fri 21 Jul 2006, 18:41:38

But it doesn't. It changes whenever the bank feels like it...

I was just wondering why it happens that way. Do the banks have increased costs when it happens? Or are they just trying to make a few more pounds out of me?
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Re: I've been wondering...

Unread postby rwwff » Fri 21 Jul 2006, 19:09:15

Ok.. short answer not good enough. Its a balance between administrative cost vs increased interest yield.

Your loan contract, (which I've not read), probably says something to the effect that your interest rate is to be not more than x% + prime as published in some newspaper on some page (or a maximum over a set period). It may say something about when your payments are to be adjusted to match the new rates. It may say the bank can change the effective rate at will as long as it is less than or equal to x% + prime.

I doubt your bank has violated your mortgage contract. If they have, you really can sue them and win.

The basic fact is that no one can answer your question authoritatively without spending an hour or three reading your loan contract; we can only guess as to what is in there.
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Re: I've been wondering...

Unread postby cubes » Sat 22 Jul 2006, 04:50:35

I don't want to sue the bank. I just want to know why loan rates go up in general - I was using my mortgage as an example.
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Re: I've been wondering...

Unread postby americandream » Sat 22 Jul 2006, 05:55:12

To use a wholesale/retail analogy, the base rate is the wholesale cost to the high street banks for BOE debt funding. Your mortagage is the retail cost you bear to your high street bank for access to that funding (think of your bank as the retailer between you and the BOE)...the rates in other words are a cost for use of money, wholesaled and then retailed. Hope that makes sense.
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Re: I've been wondering...

Unread postby cubes » Sat 22 Jul 2006, 06:19:58

Ok, thanks. Makes enough sense for me to find more info :)
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Re: I've been wondering...

Unread postby Tanada » Sat 22 Jul 2006, 06:33:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cubes', 'I') don't want to sue the bank. I just want to know why loan rates go up in general - I was using my mortgage as an example.


Banks and other lending institutions exchange money with the Federal Reserve or Central bank (depending on which country you live in) frequently, often on a daily basis. In essence the financial institutions borrow money from the central/fed bank and loan it out to you. When the central/fed bank raises rates the lending institution has to pay more for the money they borrow and they pass those costs on to you, the consumer.

The fed/central bank managment use this effect to boost/restrict the money supply in the hands of the consumers indirectly, if you are paying a higher mortgage payment then you are less able to spend money on impulse buying and the economy slows. If your mortgage is low you have more disposible income and spend on impulse buys, boosting the economy accordingly.

That's the theory behind it any how.
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