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Waitresses

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Thu 20 Jul 2006, 00:38:30

Oh man, I'm going to miss this job in the restaurant. There's two cute waitresses working there now and it is such a joy to talk with them. I turned one of them on to jazz last night. She'd never heard such music before. Today, the other one was telling me about her life. Her father, that she and her sister adored died of a heroin overdose. Her mother who makes good money has a new husband who trashes his wife while not working a job and sitting around watching TV and drinking beer. The poor girl told me that "women are crazy". She confronted her stupid mom and mom just shrugged it off. Working in a restaraunt is an interesting window to the world. This second waitress had a boyfriend since she was 15, (she is 25 now) who was very attractive but nuts. He's in jail now for ripping a phone out of the wall at a bar and breaking all the windows of the girls grandmother's car. She's got a restraining order from the courts for when the crazed idiot gets out of jail. She's in therapy for her problems. Some women are gluttons for punishmentand and will accept denigration with gladness or something. I play the wise old humorous chap and they tell me stuff. It's nice.
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Re: Waitresses

Unread postby Kylon » Thu 20 Jul 2006, 01:39:27

The reason she probably chose that kinda guy, was simply because he reminded her of her dad. Her dad was a heroin addict(and thus probably a jerk off criminal type) and so she had formed positive associations between the criminal image and her dad(unfortunately).

Therefore she went after him, because subconciously, he reminded her of her dad.

It's sad really.
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Re: Waitresses

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Thu 20 Jul 2006, 02:20:14

I like this young woman. She told me about the boys who chase her. She's a pretty blond with a voluptuous bosom. She knows all about the negative programming and how she is inclined against her will to pick losers.
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Re: Waitresses

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Thu 20 Jul 2006, 02:35:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'b')ut she still does it because it is an addiction? love and beauty and melodrama are addictive.
yeah, pretty much that's how it is. I told her today that I'm glad to be 52. She has an older sister that is in her 30's. The sister says she woulndn't want to be 20 again, too much pain.
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Re: Waitresses

Unread postby Kylon » Thu 20 Jul 2006, 02:54:31

Hmmm, in order to end the cycle of dating jerk offs we must define, and understand the problem.

Here is my belief-

When people are immature(around high school age) the qualities selected for in a mate tend to be that of primal qualities, which includes all the bad qualities we don't want in people.

Girls end up dating these guys, getting pregnant, and then they are forced together.

Then daughter grows up with the positive association of her jerk off dad, and so chooses another jerk off.

Thus, the cycle continues.

This isn't necessarily restricted to high school, this can extend to any period of time, and depends on how fast the woman matures emotionally.

The bad part about this is that it causes the people who do this to have an evolutionary advantage, due to the fact that younger women have higher fertility, and the jerk offs are the ones who are most likely to impregnate them in their youth.

Also, when people are immature, they don't fully realize the difficulty in raising a child, the amount of resources it takes, and the stress it puts on the person. So they tend to make more of them.

So ultimately, unless the evolutionary problem is addressed with, every generation after the solution is applied will adapt more and more back towards the way things were, until that solution is ineffective.

So the solution is to try to get women to wait before they get pregnant(give them lots of contraception) to prevent them from getting pregnant with just any jerk(perhaps give them a free permanent contraception(until they want to undue it, and then they can have it undone for free)).

Perhaps we could also work on ways of increasing women's fertility, and creating women's co-op child rearing centers. Essentially, a place where women can raise children and pool their collective knowledge and resources into raising the children, so that the quality of the offspring will be much better, because as a group they can delegate different people to collect information on different subjects pertaining to child development(one could focus on emotionally development, and another diet ect...), and a network of these groups could easily develop a fantastic strategy for raising children effectively.

This would decrease the stress load, as if you had a child, and you wanted to go out to a movie, and there was someone there who was trusted(there would have to be some sort of quality control to prevent wackos from joining the center), then you could go out to see a movie, while your friend watched your child, while watching hers, and then you could go off and do whatever you want for a while, then when you came back she could go do whatever she wanted, and watch the children as so forth and so on, reducing the time needed to focus solely on guarding the children.

Another thing would be an increase in the economies of scale of production of certain things like food. If one woman cooked ten meals at a time(which is possible, a common strategy of housewives was to cook four or five things at once, the more you cook, the less work per dish it is to produce), then women could focus on other task.

Essentially the whole center would take advantage of pooled resources, pooled knowledge, specialization, economies of scale, and the fact that this would increase the socialization of children at an earlier age. In fact, the center could be setup to have a sort of homeschool type environment of early education, this idea has all sorts of possibilities.

The only major possible problems I can see-

1) Feminist get a hold of this, and turn it into a recruiting ground for militant feminist who hate men(feminist who want to improve women's equality, without stealing from men directly or indirectly, are okay though). Man hating women are bad. Men and women should complement each other, not try and destroy/compete with one other.

2) Religious Fanatics/Ideologist get a hold of this and turn everybody into a zealot. That would be bad.

3) Mega Corporations take control of this, set this up, and essentially brainwash the next generation to be their willing servants(consumers). Also bad.

4) The Government gets a hold of this/does this, all the children come out praising the government. Extremely bad.

Now if one of the 4 possible disasters didn't happen, then it would be great.

Essentially, what I am proposing is a solution which reduces the stress of child rearing, so that a more emotionaly mature woman could rationally come to the conclusion of having more children, as it wouldn't be 1/2 the stress that it used to be to raise a child, leaving more room for the woman's education, career(that's another thing, the center in a sense would become(perhaps through it's natural evolution and practicality) a nexus of women's issues, and would take care of women's needs).

The fertility problem is still a problem. I can think of a few solutions, but it's late.

Probably post more later.
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Re: Waitresses

Unread postby perdition79 » Thu 20 Jul 2006, 05:17:01

Women like that are easy to get. All you have to do is treat them like crap. I've dated a stripper and two cashiers who were "damaged goods" like the waitress you describe.
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Re: Waitresses

Unread postby Doly » Thu 20 Jul 2006, 06:57:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'S')ome women are gluttons for punishmentand and will accept denigration with gladness or something.


No, they just don't know any better. In the circles where those girls move, you seldom find a guy that isn't a walking problem.
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Re: Waitresses

Unread postby Tanada » Thu 20 Jul 2006, 07:13:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'S')ome women are gluttons for punishmentand and will accept denigration with gladness or something.


No, they just don't know any better. In the circles where those girls move, you seldom find a guy that isn't a walking problem.


Not so, I have dated a couple women like that, and married one. Big mistake, in the long run they associate good manners and kindness with weakness and turn away from you. My first wife started sleeping with dirtbags on the side and I had to divorce her.
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Re: Waitresses

Unread postby Kylon » Thu 20 Jul 2006, 09:34:15

What we need then, is a mass education of the populace, to try and not associate cruelty with power. However, I'm not sure if that would work.
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Re: Waitresses

Unread postby holmes » Thu 20 Jul 2006, 14:40:35

major damged material. We truly are a broken nation, PMS. and they keep breeding.
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Re: Waitresses

Unread postby rogerhb » Thu 20 Jul 2006, 17:20:05

"Complex problems have simple, easy to understand, wrong answers." - Henry Louis Mencken
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Re: Waitresses

Unread postby oowolf » Thu 20 Jul 2006, 18:25:36

Ah, life among the super-redundant...
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Re: Waitresses

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Fri 21 Jul 2006, 01:36:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oowolf', 'A')h, life among the super-redundant...
You do know that you have a very cruel streak don't you wolfman? Who are you to say who is redundant?
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Re: Waitresses

Unread postby oowolf » Fri 21 Jul 2006, 16:59:49

Veritas vulnero.....?
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Re: Waitresses

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Fri 21 Jul 2006, 19:11:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oowolf', 'V')eritas vulnero.....?
yes, it does. Are you no less superfluous?
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Re: Waitresses

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Fri 21 Jul 2006, 21:34:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'S')ome women are gluttons for punishmentand and will accept denigration with gladness or something.


No, they just don't know any better. In the circles where those girls move, you seldom find a guy that isn't a walking problem.
BTW doly, the girl described has just completed her Bachelors degree in Political Science at UCSD, an upscale University, and is next setting her sights on being a lawyer. She's a surfer girl and a Christian. She meets plenty of guys, many who are nice too. These kinds of problems are not confined to trailer trash by any means. I think you missed a crucial clue that I alluded too: her relationship-challenged mother makes good money. Do you see how that that is part of the overall picture? I told her that there must be something that her mom's deadbeat husband is good for. She rolled her eyes and said, "I don't want to know about it."
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Re: Waitresses

Unread postby Kylon » Fri 21 Jul 2006, 22:28:14

There is a good article by some woman who dates a "thug" called "thug passion". I think it describes from a woman's perspective why a woman might go after that kind of guy.

I wonder during the die off will these thugs be more or less valuable?
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Re: Waitresses

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Fri 21 Jul 2006, 22:33:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kylon', 'T')here is a good article by some woman who dates a "thug" called "thug passion". I think it describes from a woman's perspective why a woman might go after that kind of guy.

I wonder during the die off will these thugs be more or less valuable?
It's really just a mirror image of why guys are attracted to sluts. It's a libido thing. We all know how hard it is to resist libidinal callings. Candygram. "Don't get too close to the Candyman uh huh, he'll put a stick o' candy in your hand, uh huh!" Pity the boys and girls.
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