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The Yibal Model - Does it Apply to Ghawar, Burgan, etc.?

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The Yibal Model - Does it Apply to Ghawar, Burgan, etc.?

Unread postby GreyZone » Fri 07 Jul 2006, 17:07:24

I am extensively quoting "DuncanK", a commentor over at The Oil Drum

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')I agree with other posters that HL plots may not necessarily be good predictors of either future production or URR.

However, IMO, the HL plots are more likely to be too optimistic.

Let me illustrate this with an example of a fictional oil producing country called "Sudia".

In this example, Sudia is blessed with a fair amount of oil in a small number of super giant and giant, shallow oil fields. The initial estimates of these fields predicts a URR of about 170Gb.

Here is the complete graph of the 30 year history of Sudia Oil Production:

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Here's what happened:

Initially, production was ramped up fairly quickly due to the shallow wells and initial high pressure in the fields.

By year 8 production has reached almost 6Gb/yr, but pressures are dropping and by year 10 production appears to be plateauing.

At this point the Sudians discover water injecion and the pressure in the fields is maintained. Production from smaller fields is added in the following years allowing production to grow to over 11Gb/yr in year 22.

All this time the oil columns in their super giant fields are getting smaller and smaller, but by managing the water injection carefully, the Sudians keep the production at what appear to be indestructible levels.

But in the 22nd year of production (when they are at their Peak), disaster strikes as most of the largest Sudian fields completely water out as their oil columns disappear.

Sudian oil production then collapses as only the very small fields are left, and by year 30 it's all over.

Now the HL plot of this entire production would look like this:

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But let's assume we are only looking at the graph up to their peak in the 22nd year (Q=140Gb). The line I added to the graph would appear to fit the HL plot up to that point, and seems to predict a URR of 400Gb (which the Sudians themselves believe and publicly announce that their reserves have actually 'grown' to this new figure).

However, the sudden collapse of these fields means that the actual URR ends up being only 180Gb.

The trouble I have is that most of the 'mature' HL plots (ones that plot fields that have gone to completion) are based on production that has had only very late help from advanced EOR techniques. I believe that these techniques produce non-symmetrical production curves with sudden collapses. This is essentially what Matt Simmons in predicting.

If the bulk of the world oil supply is coming from fields that will exhibit this behaviour, then the world HL plot could be misleading us into thinking that we've still got a fair amount of oil to extract.

Anyway, I'd be interested in peoples thoughts on this. I'm going to bed now (3am), so I'll check back tomorrow.


My response to this was:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')ther people have said similar things but have not made the case quite as clearly as you have just done. Thank you for that effort. I happen to worry that EOR techniques may produce exactly the effect you are describing but so far, I am not aware of any large fields that have produced the kind of production profile that you are proposing. Your comments are appealing in an intuitive way. What remains is to see if any fields ultimately behave as you speculate they might. At the moment, this sudden dropoff effect is just a speculative worry, lacking substantial data to support it. I share your concern but am not sure if there is any way to "prove" it short of it actually occurring, at which point we're in much bigger trouble than we previously thought.


Followed by:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') just realized that there is a candidate field for evaluating this - if we can get full production numbers for Yibal. Yibal crashed dramatically like this and is down about 2/3rds from it's late 1990s (1997?) peak.

I did some quick Google searches but I have been unable to locate annual production data about Yibal. Does anyone else have such data or know where we can get it?


At which point Leanan found the relevant plot, by Laherrere.
(WARNING! PDF!)
Laherrere's Yibal production plot


Now, since extensive water injection has been used in many of the largest production fields around the world, why would we not expect a similarly spectacular crash in production from such fields? I am curious as to why Ghawar, Burgan, or Cantarell would be different or exempt from this behavior pattern. As Khebab noted over at The Oil Drum, Yibal peaked at 72% of URR and crashed precipitously thereafter!

Looking at the Yibal graph and realizing that similar EOR techniques have been applied to Ghawar marks another "OH CRAP" moment in my peak oil journey.
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Re: The Yibal Model - Does it Apply to Ghawar, Burgan, etc.?

Unread postby Tanada » Fri 07 Jul 2006, 19:39:21

If the Yibal projection is correct then it takes just 8 years from onset of terminal depletion to end of production. That is a terrifying thought, if true. Imagine the next 8 years if Saudi, Kuwait and Mexico all have those kind of mega field losses!
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Re: The Yibal Model - Does it Apply to Ghawar, Burgan, etc.?

Unread postby pup55 » Sun 09 Jul 2006, 08:41:05

I imagine the exact decline curve is going to be related to geological structure. I get the idea that a "field" consists of some distribution of extractable chambers within the field, caused by the structure of whatever the sediment was at the time it was laid down. At one point, a while back, there was an excellent illustration of this posted.

But if you have a "field" with a lot of nooks and crannies and places for oil to hole up, it is going to decline at a different rate than a "field" with a nice uniform size and shape and no obstructions for the oil to go around while you are pumping it out.

So, maybe somebody can refresh us on the geology of these fields and tell us if this is the case?
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Re: The Yibal Model - Does it Apply to Ghawar, Burgan, etc.?

Unread postby Aaron » Sun 09 Jul 2006, 10:12:36

At the very least Ybel is an object lesson in how modern extraction technologies can affect depletion rates.

North Sea production declines seem to echo this sentiment.

Much more important IMO is the possibility that significant damage has been done to key fields which employ various intrusive extraction technologies.

The speculation being that today's aggressive extraction rates may be at the expense of future decline rates. By maintaining the high-pressure extraction environments, it's very possible many of these large fields have been compromised and may experience very steep decline rates...

...or perhaps already are.
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Re: The Yibal Model - Does it Apply to Ghawar, Burgan, etc.?

Unread postby delonewolf » Sun 09 Jul 2006, 11:54:24

'most solutions to a problem only make the problem worse.' comes to mind.

i often see the argument used that future technology will allow us to increase the extraction rates for the next X years, never do they follow this up with what this will do to the inevitable decline rate.

the more agressively we go after what's left of the oil the higher and steaper the bell curve will be. this is what is scary and makes a soft landing seem more and more inprobable with every bit of 'good news' about world or local oil production.
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Re: The Yibal Model - Does it Apply to Ghawar, Burgan, etc.?

Unread postby SoothSayer » Sun 09 Jul 2006, 12:00:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', 'I')f the Yibal projection is correct then it takes just 8 years from onset of terminal depletion to end of production. That is a terrifying thought, if true. Imagine the next 8 years if Saudi, Kuwait and Mexico all have those kind of mega field losses!

Excellent point.

We have had very dedicated threads here focussing on Saudi's reserves etc ... but all the time Cantarell and Kuwait and probably others have been creeping up on us.

I feel that it doesn't really matter when any specific major field will peak ... one or more will probably go offline when we least expect it.

We should simply plan for the general case of a sudden global decline in oil output over the next few years.
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