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Post-Apocalyptic films

Unread postby TheDude » Sat 08 Jul 2006, 03:34:38

Been on a roll watching these. A good few are in the mail, perhaps you can tell me what I'm in for! I love watching a good disaster, call me a nut.

I think the Mad Max movies are about it for post-PO per se. One reviewer pointed out that in the first there's been some sort of bioweapons disaster - there really aren't that many people around, I'd never noticed that.

I've watched the new War of the Worlds about five times. Tom Cruise I just zone out, the flabby human interest plot. How about those traffic jams, the guy with the .45 commandering Tom's Astrovan? People being sprayed with backwash from the ferry while it rips the dock away? The tripods steal the show.

Back to reality, I found the DVD of the Day After at Fred Meyer, who occasionally surprise - they have Eraserhead, too. The DA's a pretty powerful flick, people found plenty to complain about of course (read about it at the IMDB), with nuke movies these are often technical quibbles. For instance I looked up another early 80's nuke movie, Countdown to Looking Glass, and then found some criticisms of it by who other but Tom Clancy! Tom thought these films were nothing but kneejerk leftist prop, too.
Anyone seen Countdown to Looking Glass? Scott Glenn's in it, a Canadian production but HBO showed it and reputedly it's on TV occasionally. I found a very dodgy site that offers a DVD for 25$ money order/PayPal but the proprietor's broken English makes him seem like a bit of a con man ("If you wonted go to PayPal and use account amalia@citlink.net and follow instruction. Thanks Duddo")
Threads was a BBC production from around then, covered more time than the DA and was quite the grim show apparently. All these are early 80's, I caught Red Dawn the other day on HBO, good if you want something a bit more gung-ho/ridiculous. The Cuban officer is played by Ron O'Neal - Superfly!
Red Dawn also has Powers Boothe, who was in an early 90s HBO production, By Dawn's Early Light, more of a military/action movie perhaps. Dated elements include FEMA actually working...it was adapted from a novel, Trinity's Child. Great cast - Martin Landau, Rip Torn, James Earl Jones (who plays an Air Force officer who spends the whole movie airborne...sound familiar?).
Testament was another Reagan-era post-nuker, less graphic than some of these others they say. The Trigger Effect is from a few years back, the power goes out - and stays out...Without Warning is another huge-rocks-from-space flick. I've these three coming in the mail, anybody seen them? I'm deliberating getting Threads and Countdown to LG, too, even though they're a bit spendy.
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic films

Unread postby some_math_guy » Sat 08 Jul 2006, 06:42:40

'On the Beach' (2000) is an excellent made-for-TV remake of the 1957 film about the crew of a submarine after a nuclear holocaust kills most people on earth. With full knowledge that a cloud of radioactive dust is spreading slowly over the entire face of the earth, everyone must come to terms with their fate.

It's a little depressing, but it's an excellent film with great actors.
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic films

Unread postby elocs » Sat 08 Jul 2006, 12:56:56

I tried to rewatch War of the Worlds just yesterday as a good flick with special effects to watch on my front projector with surround sound. I got about a quarter way through it and I had to stop. I cannot stand the kids!! The girl is constantly screaming and the teenaged son is all machoed out about getting the aliens and payback. Neither of the kids seemed to be in touch with reality or to effectively deal with it. That may well be how people would be, but I watch movies to see characters rise above the situation and not act like "regular" people in "regular" life. I see regular life all the time. In a movie I want escapism.
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic films

Unread postby elocs » Sat 08 Jul 2006, 13:19:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'I') own the War of the Worlds. The opening is one of the best in movies. I love the way the action is starts immediately and never lets up. non-stop. All the speciall effects and character emotions and reactions add to the absolute hysterical fear level.

If you believe the premise then the son's reaction seem reasonable. It is non-stop horror and he reacts with a male-induced rage. I kind of agree about the daughter though and her hysteria is a little tiring. Still it ups the craziness of the movie which I liked.

Some friends complained about the ending. They felt it was too sudden and pointless. For me that was in keeping with the novel and the central thesis which is our puny lives don't mean a damn thing to the universe and what may lurk out there. One minute you're on top, the next in the pits, the next on top again. who knows?

my all time favorite, though it is not really post-apocolytpic is "Blade Runner." The new Phillip Dick story is about to be released by the slacker director whats-his-name. Sounds great. uses the same Rodoscope film technique at the "Waking Life"


Yes, Blade Runner is a great movie and I have watched it many times.
In War of the Worlds, the dad and kids were a family, a unit, and their primary obligation was to each other and not to run off to kick some alien ass and get payback. I think the kid was immature. He was more than willing to let his dad and little sister fend for themselves while he went after some useless revenge. The ending was true to the book, but given the set up and technology of the Martians it seems like not considering the factor of germs is unrealistic. Like I said, it had great special effects, but I just can't stand the kids. And I also own the movie.
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic films

Unread postby Madpaddy » Sat 08 Jul 2006, 13:49:36

"28 Days Later" is the King of apocalyptic movies. Check it out
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic films

Unread postby elocs » Sat 08 Jul 2006, 13:54:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Madpaddy', '"')28 Days Later" is the King of apocalyptic movies. Check it out


I did see that one too. Forgot about that one, it was good. Had an alternate ending also.
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic films

Unread postby DigitalCubano » Sat 08 Jul 2006, 15:17:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'I') own the War of the Worlds. The opening is one of the best in movies. I love the way the action is starts immediately and never lets up. non-stop. All the speciall effects and character emotions and reactions add to the absolute hysterical fear level.


Holy cow, for once we agree on something! '80' I love how the attack is presented from the vantage of a common man and not from a fly-on-the-wall perspective of what's going on in the White House or Pentagon. It's trully terrifying and visceral from that perspective. A lot of critics hated the tripods, but I loved how alien and unfamilair they looked. I felt it added to my suspension of disbelief. The little details were what really made that 1st half of the film: you see Cruise's reaction when first looking at the tripod while you see the reflection of the towering tripod in a car windshield. The ashes of the other victims covering him after that initial attack. It could have been a great film if not for the 2nd half devolving into the typical Spielbergian clap-trap of family and redemption.

I can't believe no one mentioned "Brazil!" Its the perfect satire of so much of what you guys discuss: dehumazing industrialism, beaureacratic entropy, government conspiracy, grotesque consumption.

Finally, quick note: the right had fits over The Day After. They enlisted Ben Stein of all people to respond via that flag-waving mini-series titled Amerika.
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic films

Unread postby purdum » Sat 08 Jul 2006, 15:24:09

...back to your original post with mention of Mad Max and a bioweapons incident. Another good one in that genre is the miniseries of Stephen King's "The Stand" - just about everyone dies of the flu.

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As for the other nuclear movie out about the same time as The Day After and Testament, I remember one called Special Bulletin which was about a group taking hostages and threatening to detonate nuclear devices in Charleston (and they did, as I recall). It was unusual for the time in that it was shot not on film but on video tape to resemble a series of continuing news updates like on CNN.
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic films

Unread postby Loki » Sat 08 Jul 2006, 16:09:07

My favorite TEOTWAWKI movies are definitely Road Warrior and Red Dawn. Nothing like a little post-apocalyptic ultra-violence to brighten your day. :)

The Day After is another of my favorites in this genre. I haven't seen Omega Man mentioned. Just saw it recently--it was interesting in a kitsch 70s kind of way. Also watched Trigger Effect recently--wasn't impressed. Got By Dawn's Early Light yesterday from Netflix--haven't had a chance to watch it yet. Then there was that dumb bird flu made-for-TV movie that ran a couple months ago--don't remember the title.

Anyone remember Night of the Comet? Haven't seen it since the 1980s, but I recall enjoying it. It's not on DVD.

Some of the other TEOTWAWKI movies in my Netflix queue:
    28 Days Later
    Testament
    On the Beach
    Deadly Harvest
    The Day After Tomorrow
    Panic in Year Zero / The Last Man on Earth: Double Feature
    The Stand
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic films

Unread postby NeoPeasant » Sat 08 Jul 2006, 18:06:34

I'm surprised no one has mentioned "Soylent Green". With PO and GW, we are right on schedule to be experiencing the 2022 New York City lifestyle depicted in the movie.
I'm skeptical about the industrialized cannabalism though, serious EROEI issues there. That part of the story was never in the book, it was added later as a lurid hook to sell tickets. The real story is the deteriorated ecosystem lifestyle of the future.
The battle to preserve our lifestyle has already been lost. The battle to preserve our lives is just beginning.
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic films

Unread postby elocs » Sat 08 Jul 2006, 22:59:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'N')ight of the Comet! Valley Girl zombie flick. Love it :) The two sisters are so cute and kick freakin ass! or are they just cute?

you convinced me. I am going to buy it come hell or high water


I saw this movie as part of a double feature at a second run theater years and years ago. The other movie was The Last Starfighter.
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic films

Unread postby elocs » Sat 08 Jul 2006, 23:13:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'a') classic pairing. I own the last starfighter. Special effects were years ahead of its time. Catherine Mary Stewart was in both movies. It was Robert Preston's (played Centuri) last movie. He was great in Victor/Victoria and the Music Man.


I think that CMS may have been the link why the two movies were shown together.
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic films

Unread postby TheDude » Thu 24 Aug 2006, 19:40:11

Update: I finally got a copy of Threads off Ebay - Amazon was offering it on occasion for $35 and up, and those were often on PAL DVD players - I was actually considering buying one just to see this movie!
It would have been worth it, too. This is the grimmest movie I've ever seen, just an utter powerhouse - heaps of images that'll stay with you forever. The last half of the movie, I just stared at the screen thinking "Jesus...!!!!!" It makes almost every other post-Apoc film look like an utter cartoon. Road Warrior? People eating dog food, big deal. Wait'll you see what they're eating around Sheffield a year after the bomb drops.
And of course It Won't Take a Nuclear War.
Someone with a conscience should make a real kick-in-the-crotch PO film like this - remember, Reagan and Crew thought they could win a nuclear war until Ronnie saw the Day After.
Ted Turner paid out of his own pocket to have this shown on PBS in America, too. He'd make a good producer for my theoretical movie. I believe he has ties to the film industry, also. 8) And he co-founded the Nuclear Threat Initiative (NTI). Wonder what he thinks of PO.
Available on Ebay from reputable sellers for about $10 US.
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic films

Unread postby TheDude » Thu 24 Aug 2006, 23:47:22

I'll refrain from answering, because I'm The Dude. So that's what you call me...
The Dude's jaw dropped today when he saw an ad for Round Table Pizza, offering a pie entitled, I kid you not...Maui Wowie.

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