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What Does Nature Say?

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Thu 29 Jun 2006, 01:18:22

Does it tell us to build a garden? No, do the lillies of the field toil? What we men we're put here to do is to conquer the enemy male and enslave his women, or was it? Genetic proof was recently given that females are endowed by nature to accept drastic changes in breeding arrangements. Men are probably more frail when it comes to changes. Makes you wonder. The females are clearly more important from a species point of view.
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Re: What Does Nature Say?

Unread postby Anthrobus » Thu 29 Jun 2006, 03:18:23

hello PMS

what nature tells me actually (what i hear from her, given my age, social situation etc.) is this.

look how your existence is suspended between the most supreme moments life can offer, like standing on mountain tops, watching your kids grow up, become mature yourself, having some great idea or insight and the most brutish facts of life (the pain of giving birth, man made desasters and abysses, well known here, the iron laws of evolution including mass die-offs).

watch, how the world can be explored, by the observing mind only, or by using science, tools, space probes, computers, and how the final knowledge is constantly fleeing you, leaving the the fringes of the known world always dubious and even contradictory for your mind, be it a new world or particle physics.

isn’t it interesting, that the dimension of your body is quite exactly in the middle between the dimensions of the largest and the smalles structures in the universe (being both to the power x greater or –x smaller than you)

strangely, you are free to choose your own point of view on your life, even to choose your chief reality: Be a doomer or enjoy every moment in an innocent way, take responsability for sth, seek enlightment or sth. divine etc. You may even live rich and be sad while living poorer but with more fulfillment and less burdenend. Basically, it isn’t worth to envy other people.


nature tells me, that the most interesting and satisfying things to do concern the exploration of the human condition and all the expressions of it. That includes the other gender and the relation to it; Though i dont consider one gender actually being more important than the other, the burdens an gifts for having kids and for social life seem somehow unequally divided. (Females are of course more important for breeding, but this is actually not the main concern).

She tells me, that it is basically great to be alive. And that building a garden and weeding it seems quite a good idea in this context.

Let me pose another question:
Is our world basically friendly to mankind and life, impartial or hostile? What do you think?


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Re: What Does Nature Say?

Unread postby seldom_seen » Thu 29 Jun 2006, 05:34:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'T')he females are clearly more important from a species point of view.

You can't study the darkness by flooding it with light. A woman is no more or less important than a man, because one can't exist without the other. Polarity.
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Re: What Does Nature Say?

Unread postby katkinkate » Fri 30 Jun 2006, 21:32:17

rant retracted.

Something triggered a brainstorm. Sorry.
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Re: What Does Nature Say?

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sat 01 Jul 2006, 00:31:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('katkinkate', 'r')ant retracted.

Something triggered a brainstorm. Sorry.
I didn't see what you said, Kate, but I would like to have known at least the gist of what you were thinking. We're just checking out memes here (I love that pretentious word for ideas 8) ). I learn sometimes from the practice of homespun virtual community philosophizing. It was regretable that poor Rax got so upset, but that was just an unfortunate thing. She's bringing a different set of experiences in life to the table, a set of experiences that I certainly couldn't have any knowledge of. Also, she's bringing a different set of weaknesses and strengths. If I can be adamant about one thing, it is this: it's best not to be walking on egg shells all the time worrying that somebody might get their feelings hurt, at least not on the internet. Say what you think, is my motto. :)
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Re: What Does Nature Say?

Unread postby katkinkate » Sat 01 Jul 2006, 09:47:52

What does Nature say to me? She says: everything has it's season; make hay while the sun shines; be prepared for and accepting of change if you want to survive; stay flexible in your options, you can never know just what direction change will take.

She doesn't say anything to me about the relative importance of male and female. Relationships between the sexes are different in every species and except in some species of insects and some other small organisms, all sexually reproducing organisms need both sexes equally to survive long-term. However she seems indifferent to how the sexes treat each other individually, as long as enough of both survive long enough to produce the next generation.

She also seems to consider an individual's survival, in the light of the greater picture, as irrelevant. So if you want to be one of the survivors, it's up to you.
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Re: What Does Nature Say?

Unread postby Liamj » Sat 01 Jul 2006, 22:39:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('katkinkate', 'W')hat does Nature say to me? ...

She also seems to consider an individual's survival, in the light of the greater picture, as irrelevant. So if you want to be one of the survivors, it's up to you.

God damn if that ain't the nub of it.
We spend so much time trying to makes ourselves special, to pretend the above doesn't apply to us or that its somebody elses responsibility.
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Re: What Does Nature Say?

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sat 01 Jul 2006, 22:49:35

I know there are many here who are trying very hard to be ready and survive. I don't know. Some think that if the ship goes down, we all go down with it. If you think that you can survive when society is crumblimg and there is mass famine and a die-off of unimaginable size going on, good luck.
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Re: What Does Nature Say?

Unread postby Laurasia » Sun 02 Jul 2006, 00:20:50

Since I first found out about PO, Mother Nature has been urgently telling me to listen to my own nature, which is basically screaming at me to do whatever is necessary to preserve myself and my offspring and their offspring thus preserving the bloodline. It's all in the genes.

Just don't stand in the way...

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Re: What Does Nature Say?

Unread postby katkinkate » Sun 02 Jul 2006, 06:16:33

You can only try. Good luck.
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