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Getting quite frightened...

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Unread postby Cobra_Strike » Thu 29 Jun 2006, 16:41:29

I would like to give new people reassurance...however, after a long bit of personal reflection I ended up dropping out. School can be fun, but too often the people you will meet are transparent, ignorent. Good luck getting through depression, as bad as it seems to start it will get better in time.
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Re: Getting quite frightened...

Unread postby madmax » Thu 29 Jun 2006, 19:27:02

Like you, I’ve just stumbled on this whole PO thing…
and like you, the paradigm shift was (is) hard to swallow (no pun intended).
BUT…
Remember…

you only live once.

People seem to forget. Try as hard as you can to find the good in the bad. It’s there. Dude, you got a girl…you’ve got an exciting adventure ahead with the move & all…who knows what the future will bring. And best of all, you’ve got choices!
Should I go to college?
Shold I not?
Should I work here?
Or there?
Dude! You don’t know how lucky you are to have a fu***ing choice at ALL. We’re still lliving in the Golden era (although it looks to be coming to an end). So enjoy it! Ride the wave! But…you gotta be smart at the same time! Notice I said smart! Not scared or paranoid…let the flock be frightened. After all…it’s good to be alive.
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Re: Getting quite frightened...

Unread postby rexxz » Fri 30 Jun 2006, 02:56:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Waterthrush', 'R')e: staying flexible - that is the key right now. You have some real assets: 1) a girlfriend who is on your wavelength; 2) no debt; 3) the possibility of some land in Illinois; and 4) awareness.

If I were you .... I'd move to Houston and enroll as you originally planned and, if you are sure about your girlfriend, marry sooner rather than later to start enjoying the benefits of marriage. If you are looking for any kind of low-paying job, take one in horticultural work or assisting some home repair guy.

Make some deal with the father in law about the land in Illinois, not financial, but some sort of agreement that you will shape it during the summers in some way. How depends on whether there is any housing on it. If there is housing, you will work to repair and clean it for possible use as a retreat. If it is already partly agricultural, you will see if there is some kind of low-maintenance crop that could be sown on the agricultural part (nuts?). If it is "wild" right now, certainly leave it that way, but research easement agreements or maybe research agreements (e.g. the American Chestnut Foundation is slowly developing chestnut research plots). If you are learning this kind of stuff right now, just do it in exchange for getting to play around there, but once you are making a real contribution, you would probably want to draw up something more official with him that recognizes your sweat equity.

OK, I know it's easier to give advice to others than oneself. But it appears to me that you have more assets than many and should not despair.


Makes sense.. I will consider everything you've said. I have contacted a long time friend of mine in Germany and talked for a very long time about this. He also has a rather wealthy family, and I told him ideas about him coming down here and helping us out in setting some stuff up.. I hope he can. If we do indeed move back up to Illinois I hope we can get some sort of land, if not we'll try to get some down in Texas I suppose.


Also, I have concern about finding work. I mean not now, but in the future when this stuff happens. I assume there will bas massive loss of jobs, what does one do when they are unemployed and can't find work?
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Re: Getting quite frightened...

Unread postby Fergus » Fri 30 Jun 2006, 11:01:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rexxz', '
')Also, I have concern about finding work. I mean not now, but in the future when this stuff happens. I assume there will bas massive loss of jobs, what does one do when they are unemployed and can't find work?


I think this is a quandry everyone will face. Hense the "prepare for the future" forum is loaded with after peak advise. If we are returning to a simpler life style, well simpler jobs will be required. Horses will be the mode of transport more then likely once the Iron horses stop moving. Learn to be a ferrier. Stable hand, ranch hand. Learn solar and you could be the 'energy' expert in your local community.

The problem is we just dont know when it happens, how bad it will really be and then each progressive 'worsening' of the problems, Global warming, the populations, 4 billion idiots running around not knowing what they are doing and not considering you in their future plans.

But much like pple today, pple tomorrow will adapt and find a niche to fill, or much like today, just end up in a position of need cause your there. Probably 80% of pple today have no idea what they wanna be when they grow up and just sorta end up in a career they did not plan for. I think a lot of that will be happening in the future.

In short, read and learn and expect the worst. If the worst never happens, your just that much better off, if it does happen, you should be prepared and have a leg up on others that did not see it coming.

I have started becoming a DIY type guy after years of paying pple to do everything for me, from mowing the grass to fixing the car to residing the house. I found when we resided the house, sure I hurt like hell for a week, but I felt so good inside, like I was not helples or stupid. Really helped my self esteem (not that I have a problem with that). But being self sufficient really gives you a sense of self pride that few things can match in life. I realize I have my limits, I can't fix my car. I dont try any more. But I wont have to worry bout this post peak. But I also know that I can stand on my own two feet and do things for myself. Thats a great feeling.

In short, humans are amazing animals. Dont fear you cant survive, you will, unless your lazy to the point its a fault. So long as you can muster the energy, courage or desire to do something, you will do it. Its when you think your special or just lose the desire to keep on keeping on that your gunna be in trouble.
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Re: Getting quite frightened...

Unread postby oowolf » Fri 30 Jun 2006, 18:55:54

avoid cities, come to Montana and work on a ranch, or a dude ranch. learn how to survive in nature.

Outfits like this:
http://www.springcreeklodge.com/
will hire people with little experience. of course the pay is low but you're in the woods. Learn to hunt, fish, enjoy life. got out while you can.
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Re: Getting quite frightened...

Unread postby oowolf » Fri 30 Jun 2006, 18:56:04

avoid cities, come to Montana and work on a ranch, or a dude ranch. learn how to survive in nature.

Outfits like this:
http://www.springcreeklodge.com/
will hire people with little experience. of course the pay is low but you're in the woods. Learn to hunt, fish, enjoy life. get out while you can.
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