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Re: Jenab's Master Race

Unread postby markam » Mon 26 Jun 2006, 11:34:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')etween strong and weak, I favor the strong.

Between fleet and sluggish, I favor the fleet.

Between savant and retard, I favor the savant.

Between industrious and bum, I favor the industrious.

Between dextrous and clumsy, I favor the dextrous.


As a WASP, I would have to say that the Asian people win in all of those categories. I believe that scientific studies have shown the same thing. I would assume Jerry that you believe the same thing and you are preparing to jump out of the lifeboat in order to make way for the new Asian world.


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Re: Jenab's Master Race

Unread postby Battle_Scarred_Galactico » Tue 27 Jun 2006, 05:57:34

I don't see why Montes' point is so hard for some to grasp.

You can engage in selective breeding forever, but only nature can decide whos' fit to survive.
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Re: Jenab's Master Race

Unread postby Jenab6 » Tue 27 Jun 2006, 23:22:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheTurtle', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jenab6', 'B')etween industrious and bum, I favor the industrious.

But who decides? The Europeans who invaded North America 500 years ago described the indigenous peoples they encountered as lazy, when, in fact, they merely had an alternative approach to living that the Europeans did not understand.

In retrospect, we see that the indigenous "bums" led a sustainable lifestyle that had lasted for 10,000 years up until that point, while the "industrious" Europeans replaced them with a lifestyle that has, essentially, brought us to Peak Oil and all that will result from that.

If I were asked to decide between the industrious and bum in 1492, I would favor the bum.

Who gets to decide?

There was no "bum" in that comparison. Neither the Europeans nor the Amerinds were bums. The industriousness of the Europeans isn't in doubt; at least, neither of us questions it. You raised doubt about the industriousness of the Amerindians. But they were, indeed, industrious. You have to be somewhat industrious to make a living hunting and fishing. Bumhood wasn't their failing. They were less intelligent. While it would be a mistake to name them the least intelligent race on Earth, the Amerinds were certainly not on a level with the Europeans.

Further, the Amerinds led a lifestyle of frozen development, more "sustained" than "sustainable." They had their ups and downs, their kill offs and die offs. They had their migrations to new hunting grounds and resource wars with other tribes. It was their mental limitations that prevented them from harming their environment more, faster, and on larger scales than they did.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jenab6', '[')i]All genetic variation, every last scrap of it, originated as mutation. You're trying to isolate johnny-come-lately mutations as being the only ones having any possible importance.

No, you will never get it.

Boiled the ocean long enough on this one.

I don't see anything substantial about MonteQuest's difference with me, yet he kept speaking as if there were something substantial to be understood. What to call that kind of disagreement? A matador's cape?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kylon', 'Y')ou know Albert Einstein had a schizophrenic son.

Nope. I had not known that.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kylon', 'H')e was also an insomniac, he stuttered, and had slightly less grass matter volume than regular people at the end of his life. Ontop of that he often had to be treated/taken care of like a child. All of these things suggest that he had a hyper active mind and may have been schizotypical(not schizophrenic, but with enough hyper activity to give a huge intellectual and creative edge). He is also considered to possibly have had Asperger's Syndrome, which Issac Newton is also speculated to have. However, Albert Einstein is widely considered to be the most influential Scientist of the 20th century, and his research has changed the world in countless ways.

I have heard only that Einstein didn't do very well in his childhood school work. He did seem to make up for it later on. However, you should know a few things that you evidently do not.

First, Einstein's work in special relativity was anticipated by other scientists, including Hendrik Antoon Lorentz (Dutch), George Francis Fitzgerald (Irish), and Jules Henri Poincaré (French). Those three physicists had the special theory of relativity worked out before Einstein first published on the subject in 1905. Einstein's peculiar failing might have been dishonesty. One of Einstein's friends wrote:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Max Born', 'I') have now to say some words about the work of these predecessors of Einstein, mainly of Lorentz and Poincare. Many of you have looked upon [Einstein's] paper Zur Elektrodynamik bewegter Korper in Annalen der Physik and you will have noticed some pecularities. The striking point is that it contains not a single reference to previous literature. It gives you the impression of quite a new venture. But that is, of course, as I have tried to explain, not true.

Second, Einstein and David Hilbert were both working on the gravitational field equations. Hilbert was checking his work when Einstein, who'd gotten some of his own ideas from Hilbert, went ahead and published, thereby getting credit for the basic equations of general relativity. A running joke in physics is E = m thief squared.

So rein yourself in. Einstein got more credit for brilliance than is his proper due. Intelligence is not caused by, or significantly correlated with, mental dysfunction or emotional imbalance. Intelligence is a facility of the mind that arises as the result of spare capacity of a brain's neural net. Generally, the more brain a hominid has, the more intelligent he is. This correlation, which runs from Homo habilis through Homo erectus to Homo sapiens is still as solid as ever it was.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TonyPrep', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jenab6', 'I') referred to the (human) stocks in whom a large measure of strength breeds true. Or those in whom a higher than average IQ reliably runs in their families. These are genetic traits that promote survival.
How do you know? This is only an assumption by you, jerry. An assumption that you'd need to verify before making your selections for your new world. Standard measures of IQ may not indicate an aptitude for survival, only an aptitude for IQ tests.
That's an old canard, disproved many times before. IQ tests scores have proved to be a very reliable indicator of what sort of career people have and how well they do in those careers. Furthermore, heredity has been shown to be several times more influential than environment in determining IQ. See, for example, Arthur Jensen's 1969 essay "How Much Can We Boost Intelligence and Scholastic Achievement?" (Harvard University Press).

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TonyPrep', 'S')trength may help but brute force is not always the answer.
You have nearly repeated back to me my own words. Did I not say that, all else being equal, it is better to be strong than weak? Prefer, therefore, the strong to the weak, when all else is equal!

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Re: Jenab's Master Race

Unread postby Jenab6 » Wed 28 Jun 2006, 00:31:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Battle_Scarred_Galactico', 'I') don't see why Montes' point is so hard for some to grasp.

You can engage in selective breeding forever, but only nature can decide whos' fit to survive.

Is that was Monty was trying to tell me?

Well, hey. Nobody can gather information from the future. The laws of thermodynamics (the arrow of time) do not permit information to flow that way. The only way to judge the future is by the past, and the only way to estimate evolutionary advantages in the future is to observe what has been most consistently advantageous in the past. While nature might still throw some surprises at you, you're much better off with this approach than if you do nothing eugenically in an attempt to raise the fitness of the breeding stock.

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Re: Jenab's Master Race

Unread postby Jenab6 » Wed 28 Jun 2006, 00:42:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('markam', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')etween strong and weak, I favor the strong.

Between fleet and sluggish, I favor the fleet.

Between savant and retard, I favor the savant.

Between industrious and bum, I favor the industrious.

Between dextrous and clumsy, I favor the dextrous.


As a WASP, I would have to say that the Asian people win in all of those categories. I believe that scientific studies have shown the same thing. I would assume Jerry that you believe the same thing and you are preparing to jump out of the lifeboat in order to make way for the new Asian world.

Am I correct?

You weren't correct in the first place.

The strongest men in the world - who are they?
The fleetest men in the world - who are they?
The smartest men in the world - who are they?
The most dextrous men in the world - who are they?
The most industrious men in the world - who are they?

You don't have a clue, markam. You just wanted to make some quick anti-White prattle, so you did. The PC of the board will now give you your due pats on the head.

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Re: Jenab's Master Race

Unread postby TonyPrep » Wed 28 Jun 2006, 01:09:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jenab6', 'I')t was their mental limitations that prevented them from harming their environment more, faster, and on larger scales than they did.
So lower intelligence equals more likely to live sustainably? You really do need to get your position straight.$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jenab6', 'I') don't see anything substantial about MonteQuest's difference with me
Monte understands evolution, you don't seem to. Monte has mentioned this quite a few times.$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jenab6', 'H')owever, you should know a few things that you evidently do not.
And would those apparent failings would have been picked up by your selection process, Jerry? Would you have chosen Einstein?$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jenab6', 'I')Q tests scores have proved to be a very reliable indicator of what sort of career people have and how well they do in those careers.
Goody. That's fine when you have careers in your society. What sorts of careers do you envisage, Jerry?$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jenab6', 'F')urthermore, heredity has been shown to be several times more influential than environment in determining IQ.I don't know if that's true, but I don't think anyone has even suggested that environment is a factor in intelligence. The point is that evolution can undo all your fine plans. Genetic variation can undo all of your fine plans. If some other attribute allows dominance to be gained, then dominance will be gained by the less intelligent. Unless you intend to filter out all abberations, in your perfect world. Do you?$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jenab6', 'D')id I not say that, all else being equal, it is better to be strong than weak?Then what you said is meaningless. Under what circumstances would you expect all else to be equal?

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Re: Jenab's Master Race

Unread postby rsch20 » Wed 28 Jun 2006, 01:28:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jenab6', 'T')he strongest men in the world - who are they?
The fleetest men in the world - who are they?
The smartest men in the world - who are they?
The most dextrous men in the world - who are they?
The most industrious men in the world - who are they?


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Re: Jenab's Master Race

Unread postby Doly » Wed 28 Jun 2006, 10:06:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jenab6', '
')The strongest men in the world - who are they?


On September 14, 2003, Hossein Rezezadeh from Iran, broke the record for weightlifting 213.0 kg.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jenab6', '
')The fleetest men in the world - who are they?


Maurice Greene (black), joint holder of the 50-m indoor record with Canada's Donovan Bailey, has also run the fastest 100-m, in 9.79 sec.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jenab6', '
')The smartest men in the world - who are they?


Marilyn vos Savant has the highest IQ on record, 228.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jenab6', '
')The most dextrous men in the world - who are they?


The record of writing on a rice of grain is held by a Chinese man (couldn't find the name, sorry).

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jenab6', '
')The most industrious men in the world - who are they?


The longest working hours on average are held by Koreans (2,380
hours a year).

Where are the male white Americans on this list?
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Re: Jenab's Master Race

Unread postby MonteQuest » Thu 29 Jun 2006, 01:50:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Battle_Scarred_Galactico', 'I') don't see why Montes' point is so hard for some to grasp.

You can engage in selective breeding forever, but only nature can decide whos' fit to survive.


Man, I wish I could be so succinct. :wink:
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Re: Jenab's Master Race

Unread postby MonteQuest » Thu 29 Jun 2006, 01:52:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jenab6', 'I') don't see anything substantial about MonteQuest's difference with me, yet he kept speaking as if there were something substantial to be understood. What to call that kind of disagreement?


Feeding hay to a dead horse?
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Re: Jenab's Master Race

Unread postby MonteQuest » Thu 29 Jun 2006, 01:58:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jenab6', ' ') The only way to judge the future is by the past, and the only way to estimate evolutionary advantages in the future is to observe what has been most consistently advantageous in the past.


And what we have observed is that those random genetic mutations that promoted survival and reproduction are what have been the most consistently advantageous.

There is no way to estimate evolutionary advantages in the future as we don't have any way of knowing what the environmental future holds or exactly what traits will be selected. That is a random process.
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Unread postby Concerned » Fri 30 Jun 2006, 07:40:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jenab6', ' ')They were less intelligent. While it would be a mistake to name them the least intelligent race on Earth, the Amerinds were certainly not on a level with the Europeans.


Less intelligent?

1. Indians helped the first Europeans grow food and avoid die-off. Those intelligent Europeans were unable to survive without those dumb Indians helping them.

2. It takes no genius to pull a trigger.

3. There are reasons why Indians did not develop at the same rate as Europeans. For a more detailed disucssion I'd suggest Guns, Germs and Steel.
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Re: Jenab's Master Race

Unread postby Madpaddy » Fri 30 Jun 2006, 09:24:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'J')enab6 wrote:
The strongest men in the world - who are they?
The fleetest men in the world - who are they?
The smartest men in the world - who are they?
The most dextrous men in the world - who are they?
The most industrious men in the world - who are they?


Who cares?

I know the Irish wouldn't make it into any of the above categories but in 2005 we were ranked the 5th richest country in the world in terms of GDP. We were also ranked 5th happiest country in the world and spend a higher proportion of our income on alcohol than any other European country. Contradictions hey, and we are probably the most pi_s pulled race in the world. (Deservedly I might add).
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Re: Jenab's Master Race

Unread postby Aaron » Fri 30 Jun 2006, 10:54:26

I was gonna post something to this thread, but couldn't think of anything stupid enough to match this drivel.

I'm so sick of this topic I just don't give a flyin rat's ass.
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Re: Jenab's Master Race

Unread postby robski » Fri 30 Jun 2006, 12:01:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', 'I') was gonna post something to this thread, but couldn't think of anything stupid enough to match this drivel.

I'm so sick of this topic I just don't give a flyin rat's ass.


Oh, man!!! You need to apologize for your silly Peak Oil is the fault of women thread before starting this kind of talk.
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Re: Jenab's Master Race

Unread postby Aaron » Fri 30 Jun 2006, 12:04:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('robski', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', 'I') was gonna post something to this thread, but couldn't think of anything stupid enough to match this drivel.

I'm so sick of this topic I just don't give a flyin rat's ass.


Oh, man!!! You need to apologize for your silly Peak Oil is the fault of women thread before starting this kind of talk.


Didn't read the whole thing huh?

Your apology is pre-accepted.

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Re: Jenab's Master Race

Unread postby robski » Fri 30 Jun 2006, 12:34:22

I did read it. I read a silly thread, at least one person offended ,with no apology. Very poor example from the site admin imo.
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Re: Jenab's Master Race

Unread postby Aaron » Fri 30 Jun 2006, 13:27:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('robski', 'I') did read it. I read a silly thread, at least one person offended ,with no apology. Very poor example from the site admin imo.


Your inability to comprehend my thread is hardly a valid indictment.

And none of us in entitled to not be offended. Much as I'm offended by your lack of perception. There is a concept called subtext, which you may wish to study prior to calling the kettle black. You will find a great wealth of information by considering this implied meaning...

If you didn't catch the real point of that thread, you'll really hate my thread which blames beer for peak oil.

Your alternatives are to select the ignore function for my postings, deal with it... or go elsewhere. I leave it to you.

Thin gruel my imperceptive friend...


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Re: Jenab's Master Race

Unread postby Pops » Fri 30 Jun 2006, 15:58:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', '.')..you'll really hate my thread which blames beer for peak oil.


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Re: Jenab's Master Race

Unread postby Matrim » Fri 30 Jun 2006, 19:48:24

Jenab,

Do you actually think white people are superior?

You're just having a little fun at our expense right?

LOL you're one silly nazi, oh wait sorry it's "White Nationalist" right?
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