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State of emergency declared in Baghdad

Unread postby Dreamtwister » Fri 23 Jun 2006, 12:07:54

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')AGHDAD, Iraq - The Iraqi government declared a state of emergency and imposed a curfew Friday after insurgents set up roadblocks in central Baghdad and opened fire on U.S. and Iraqi troops outside the heavily fortified Green Zone.

Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki ordered everyone off the streets of the capital. U.S. and Iraqi forces also fought gunmen in the volatile Dora neighborhood in south Baghdad.


So now the insurgents are setting up roadblocks in Baghdad? For some odd reason, I'm reminded of the evacuation of Saigon.
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Re: State of emergency declared in Baghdad

Unread postby dhfenton » Fri 23 Jun 2006, 12:25:39

We've "turned the corner" so many times it seems we've arrived exactly where we started from, and at a great cost in human suffering.

Please, don't compare this to Vietnam. We could leave Nam and nothing much happened after that. In Iraq there are no good options. If we just bail out it will be an invitation for future terrorist strikes; if we stay we'll slowly drive our Army into the ground. I thought early on we should ask the Arab states to form a peacekeeping mission there and we should get to hell out, for everyone's benefit. Now that we appear so helpless, it is unlikely the Arab states would cooperate with Bush. Maybe after we get a new president in 2 1/2 years something like that might be possible. Until then the insurency will get stronger, and smarter and our problems will only escalate. We don't have a politician strong enough to stand up in front of the whole world, and say that we've made a mistake, and we want help in setting it right. We'll just stay the course, and watch a lot more people get killed and wounded. I think its drifting without a course really. I just wonder where the outrage is in the public over such an incompetent administration.
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Re: State of emergency declared in Baghdad

Unread postby LadyRuby » Fri 23 Jun 2006, 12:29:57

Yes, things are just swell in Iraq. The longer we stick it out, the worse it gets.
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Re: State of emergency declared in Baghdad

Unread postby gmin » Fri 23 Jun 2006, 13:03:42

and people outside the coalition and the region are watching the mess with smiles on their faces.
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Re: State of emergency declared in Baghdad

Unread postby Anthrobus » Fri 23 Jun 2006, 15:34:14

no gmin,
no smile on my face. Stupid leaders start a war they can't win. We had this here once. The iraq mess gives me an alarming feeling. And its not the bush and co. idiots that are suffering.

And all this horror just for oil. People of the future will wonder, why there wasn't a crash program for renewable energy sourches initiated.

My smile might return when i see this criminal bush administration behind bars or better on the chair.
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Re: State of emergency declared in Baghdad

Unread postby gmin » Fri 23 Jun 2006, 17:37:04

Anthrobus,

to safeguard the greenback and "American way of life", US didn't have a choice but war. it's like a slave owner have to intimidate, sometimes kill his subjects in order to keep his life style.

the bright side is that at least US is tied up for the moment so the rest of world (slaves) can enjoy some peace, and that the intimidation has not gone smooth also suggests that an end to the slavery is possible.
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Re: State of emergency declared in Baghdad

Unread postby seahorse » Fri 23 Jun 2006, 18:41:56

My fear is that the US will not choose a slow painful death. My fear is it could turn into a murder/suicide ending in the use of nuclear weapons.
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Re: State of emergency declared in Baghdad

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Fri 23 Jun 2006, 19:32:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seahorse', 'M')y fear is that the US will not choose a slow painful death. My fear is it could turn into a murder/suicide ending in the use of nuclear weapons.
Grim but very possible. The way things are now and how they may get a few years after the production plateau gives out and the decline sets in could be like day and night. Americans may say to their government, "Nuke 'em, get the gas!"
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Re: State of emergency declared in Baghdad

Unread postby mekrob » Fri 23 Jun 2006, 19:57:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')o now the insurgents are setting up roadblocks in Baghdad? For some odd reason, I'm reminded of the evacuation of Saigon.


Hahaha. This is just splendid. This reminds me of the war at the beginning, the actual war, with Baghdad Bob (or Comical Ali for you Brits). They just keep getting bolder and bolder, pushing the boundaries. No matter how much we claim to have destroyed them, they just keep coming. But with each attack, they advance closer and closer to us (literally). But that won't keep us from lying through out teeth. "No, everything is fine. The mission is accomplished. The insurgency is in its last throes. Don't worry about it." But as they say this, the insurgents are walking in the background and creeping closer and closer to the cameras. But no worries. Because!...we said so. :)
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Re: State of emergency declared in Baghdad

Unread postby foodnotlawns » Sat 24 Jun 2006, 17:43:07

Syriana just came out on video. My favorite quote, by the "good prince" of Saudi Arabia:

<quote>America spends more on defense than the rest of the world combined. They have lost their persuasive power.</quote>

Movies were America's soft power around the world, but now they are a double edged sword. Syriana and Valley of the Wolves Iraq are both very effective pieces of propaganda that tell the truth about America.

Like I keep saying, we have become the "real Nazis" of Hollywood Nazi notoriety.

We kept watching World War II themed movies and telling ourselves, "We're so much better than those evil German Nazis depicted on the silver screen, so much better . . . so much better . . . we can do no wrong." and now we have become the Hollywood Nazis that we so despised! javascript:emoticon(':roll:')
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Re: State of emergency declared in Baghdad

Unread postby mekrob » Sat 24 Jun 2006, 18:11:46

Foodnotlawns, I'm sorry, but did you just use propoganda and truth in the same sentence? Are you Carl Rove?
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Re: State of emergency declared in Baghdad

Unread postby foodnotlawns » Sun 25 Jun 2006, 07:59:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mekrob', 'F')oodnotlawns, I'm sorry, but did you just use propoganda and truth in the same sentence? Are you Carl Rove?


The word "propaganda" just means "political speech." It doesn't imply whether the propagandistic content is either true or false.

If you tell someone, "The era of cheap oil may soon be over," you are making a propagandistic act. Maybe you are also telling the truth, or at least what you sincerely to believe to be true.

Politics is, among other things, a war between competing ideologies. Some ideologies are better than others. "Sustainable living" is an ideology, just as "the American lifestyle is not negotiable" is an ideology. One is better than the other. Agreed?
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Re: State of emergency declared in Baghdad

Unread postby gmin » Sun 25 Jun 2006, 14:16:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seahorse', 'M')y fear is that the US will not choose a slow painful death. My fear is it could turn into a murder/suicide ending in the use of nuclear weapons.


US is not suicidal, and will not be. Because she has tasted the good part of life, and in the worst case, she's still capable of living on her own.

The only reason US has been acting recklessly recently (after the collapse of USSR) is that other countries have not held or cannot hold her accountable for her crimes. With the implementation of NMD, the US is also strengthening her immunity from any future procecution.
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Re: State of emergency declared in Baghdad

Unread postby Kickinthegob » Mon 26 Jun 2006, 02:26:54

http://buzzflash.com/analysis/06/06/ana06049.html
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')ainstream Media Lets White House Determine What is News, Virtually Ignores Offically-Declared "State of Emergency" in Iraq as Various Resistance Groups Battle Our GIs Around the Green Zone

A BUZZFLASH NEWS ANALYSIS

The mainstream media is -- as usual -- letting the Bush Administration lead it around by its nose.

You'd have to look hard in any mainstream paper, or on any mainstream news program, to know that an official State of Emergency has been declared in Iraq. What does that mean?

It means that the fighting, blood-letting and death has gotten so bad that American GIs are battling the resistance right outside the Green Zone. It means that never-ending talk of the "last throes of the insurgency" are, once again, shown to be lies by the reality on the ground.

But the mainstream media doesn't make news placement or reporting judgments based on reality. It makes them based on what the White House claims is important.

So, we have the farce of continued front-page reporting on a bunch of bumbling terrorist "wannabes" -- who were as effective at terroism as the Bush Administration is at "anti-terrorism," which is to say that they were amateurs and incompetents...
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