[lutherquick]

It looks like FINALLY, the US, the West in general is losing the battle of ultimate hypocrisy.
Turkmenistan is not happy as it has caught the US funding another NGO backed coup.

The Chechen conflict is over, even though there are a few American supported terrorists in the forest around Grozny such as Shamil Basayev. Even though Aslan Maskhadov was visiting Washington DC 10 years ago gaining support (from congress) to split Russia up, for American energy consumption. Even though Akhmed Zakayev is a proven terrorist, Britain protects this child killer because the English are afraid of Gazprom.

Failed colored revolution in Russia kept the Russians broke for 10 years. A failed Ukrainian colored revolution has increased capital flight up by 250 %, and a pathetic Mikheil Saakashvili runs Georgia with higher crime rates and higher unemployment and more government corruption.

Turkmenistan is not stupid, not the people, not the government. Chechnya is an image of what is happening in Iraq with respect to failed American policy and failed implementation. The reason is that none of America's intensions are genuine, honest or transparent. Democracy has nothing to do with America's quest, it's oil directly, and hegemonic methods indirectly.

No more colored revolutions to oppress and enslave former Soviet areas for the west's gain, profit and subsidy.

Enough Beslan school children died for the Western energy grab of the "great game".

It took America 300 years of scalping American Indians, killing and raping Mexicans, enslaving Blacks, giving woman the vote AFTER Byelorussia did, it took 300 years for America to perfect here democracy. Yet still, America burns black churches and rapes prison inmates in Florida (FY 2006-June) and continues torturing prisoners in Iraq.

Each winter and each driving season will get progressively worse in the West. While democracy and the economy will continue advancement in Russia, Belarus, Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan and other anti-western countries.

Any more "bright ideas" Mr. Bush?
Dr Rise, where are those wmd?
Hey, Cheney, I'm feeling all warm and fussy that Saddam is in jail for doing 9/11.
Yo, Squinty Rummy, how about your show of love for our US troops at 2500 dead.

brilliant... the American people have been conned, and suckered into a great game that only trades America's future for short term gains. Our beloved US soldiers are dieing so that baby boomers can go out in style in plush nursing home. People are dieing all over the planet in a fake message of America's NGO democracy movement, but in truth it's the highest form of corruption that I know Americans would not support if they understood. Time for some perestroika, glasnost and a regime change in America.

[SoothSayer]

That has told them, Comrade.

When you return to the Motherland you will receive many honours for your excellent work at destabilising those American running dog paper tigers.

[lutherquick]

SoothSayer,

You got me wrong, man...
In 1991, the USSR shutdown, and the capitalist moved from Wash DC to Moscow... The commies moved from Moscow and opened up in Wash DC...

The Russians are fine with capitalism, they like it, they love it...
It's the American government that is afraid of competition, it's why the West needs to strong arm and distort world politics so that America can continue it's hegemonic subsidy. Hegemony IS socialist, when you think about how it sucks resources from others...

America is afraid of a level playing field and very afraid of competition.

If you are looking for commies, look in the Whitehouse. They don't want to buy Energy from Turkmenistan, they want NGO backed revolutions, marketed as democracy movements to get said energy at a discount. American gov might speak about markets, but they need fascism and corruption.

Thank goodness Russia has nukes to keep the commies from Wash DC at bay.

[lutherquick]

pstarr,

Actually, my sarcasm gets in the way...
Socialism, communism, capitalism, whatever it takes to make a country prosper will be implemented...

At this stage, it really doesn't matter. Resources matter, energy matters...

America will be whatever it needs to be, and as energy goes up in price, bet your ass that Wash DC will use extreme innovation, mighty creativity as well as force to get what it wants...

Eventually I believe, those countries that successfully protect her energy, and invest energy wealth back into her economy, they will prevail...

The US is not designed for expensive energy, to that end, her politicians will be very resourceful and will ride the edge very tight.

But really, countries like Turkmenistan and Russia just need to wait this out... They need to just continue advancing their own democracies and economies while keeping America at bay and in check and in her corner...

I believe the American population will be better, and reach and attain their level of good, once PNAC nut jobs die off.
Americans are much better than this.
Allot of good has come out of America, and allot of good will continue.

But places like Turkmenistan and Russia are finding their own way, and it's working. Someday, Ukraine and Georgia will do the same.

[lutherquick]

pstarr,

Noam Chomsky expains it the best...

It's the American institutions that are evil.
"Most" Americans are good...

But you are right, we deserve it.
The reason is that those institutions are suported by us, even if we don't understand the real trends, the real agendas.

You will find trailer trash in Russia and in America. You will find traitors in both places and heros.

But like the inverse square law will prove, life and prosperity will be highest nearest energy sources. Draging energy accross the world to America doesn't have any long term prospects. America better get off of energy imports. And pumping NGO money into Turmenistan or Chechnya doesn't solve America's energy problems...

[NeoPeasant]

Pardon my ignorance, what does NGO stand for?

[lutherquick]

NeoPeasant,

NGO stands for None Government Organization. It typically represents some none profit company, with western funds, that goes into a place like Russia, sets up and does something, usually for charity, or in the name of democracy. Either giving out Bibles, or make soup kitchens, funding scholarships, securing nuclear materials, protecting woman (I think we need an NGO in Florida after today's news), delivery medical donations and so forth, many have a good purpose...

But like any institution it origins are good, but over time it creeps into some bad usage. Like some none profit Muslims churches in America were a cover to collect funds for terrorists organizations, eventually, many of the NGO institutions in the former USSR started funding coups, the CIA uses them to fund colored revolutions. Some NGO setups are legitimate, but I would say most are a cover for dubious activities, for American hegemony. Since peak oil is here, Russia doesn't need anymore NGO or American diplomats romping around trying to over through the government. Democracy and human rights are growing well in Russia as energy prices go higher and higher...

If anything, we will see the start of energy rich countries starting to fund and setup NGOs in Washington DC. Chavez started some in the US, and Russia is starting as well.

When peak oil bite really hard in the US, we will see soup kitchens at our local NJ Lukoil gas stations. People will get some free food, while filling up their SUV. They will THINK, and be grateful, pickup a free Russian Bible, trade their collapsing dollar for some "stable" Russian Rubles ... and maybe even dream of a Russian greencard... Russia will call this "democracy" and human rights support activities of it's Russian NGO.

[lutherquick]

pstarr

I have many videos by Noam Chomsky, PM me and I'll upload to one of my servers and send you the link... Sorry, it might take till the weekend as I'm up to my neck in work...