[And_over]

I've known about PO for about a month now, but it's only really starting to hit me know. I've looked at the world around me and my own personal situation, and I don't know what to think. THere are so many ways we could reduce our energy use, but no one is willing to. By the time we really start scaling a combination of solutions that will make the ride easier, it'll be too late. I feel like I want to do something, and I am doing something at my school, but it doesn't feel like enough. I'm not really worried about myself. I've got it made. My parents are multimillionaires and they made their money in energy, so any price rise is good for us. I've got a great education, and I'm happy. But I know that anything could change that, and a lot of people are going to be hurting no matter what. I want to help, but I feel disconnected. I looked in the Planning for the Future forum, but I don't feel like that stuff really applies to me anyway. I mean everyone who doesn't know about peak oil is going on burning through energy, and they have no idea that they are hurting themselves. It just feels wrong, knowing that in all likelyhood half the people are see on the street are going to end up dead or impoverished. It just feels wrong.

[grillzilla]

You are probably right, you can't do much of anything to help people who won't do anything for themselves. But... if you have access to lots of weath (your own or your parents by association) then you CAN do something for people who Will help themselves.

Use your economic power to foster growth in renewable energy sources/devices.

Unless the worst doomerish scenarios are what come to pass, then there will be a need and a great future in the renewable energy economy to come. Position yourself for a great future, and help others at the same time.

free advice, lol, take it for what it's worth.

[DoctorDoom]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('And_over', 'I')'ve known about PO for about a month now, but it's only really starting to hit me know. I've looked at the world around me and my own personal situation, and I don't know what to think. THere are so many ways we could reduce our energy use, but no one is willing to. By the time we really start scaling a combination of solutions that will make the ride easier, it'll be too late. I feel like I want to do something, and I am doing something at my school, but it doesn't feel like enough. I'm not really worried about myself. I've got it made. My parents are multimillionaires and they made their money in energy, so any price rise is good for us. I've got a great education, and I'm happy. But I know that anything could change that, and a lot of people are going to be hurting no matter what. I want to help, but I feel disconnected. I looked in the Planning for the Future forum, but I don't feel like that stuff really applies to me anyway. I mean everyone who doesn't know about peak oil is going on burning through energy, and they have no idea that they are hurting themselves. It just feels wrong, knowing that in all likelyhood half the people are see on the street are going to end up dead or impoverished. It just feels wrong.

[And_over]

Grillzilla wrote:
You are probably right, you can't do much of anything to help people who won't do anything for themselves. But... if you have access to lots of weath (your own or your parents by association) then you CAN do something for people who Will help themselves.
Use your economic power to foster growth in renewable energy sources/devices.


Thats the other thing I've been trying to do. I've had a few small discussions with my parents about investing in new energy sources besides oil. He seems open to the idea, but he only makes a few hundred thousand a year, so there not a lot that could be done. Although he's doing a huge deal right now, and with that money we could make an impact. I've had an idea of sorts for getting solar out there, and making money.

The thing I see here on peakoil.com is what really worries me. Half of you people seem to be buying remote farms where you can sustain yourselfs without interference. I think that's part of the problem to. Right here on this website is probably the biggest group of connected peak aware people. Together, we could unite and, if not force change in the nation, at least band together and create the inderdependent community everyone keeps talking about. Hiding in the woods with your knowledge will probably protect you sure, but it's not going to help create a stable, post-peak society. Everyone here could work together, and create a new community to show the world how we could leave. At least we could collaborate and help people once they are ready. As far as I can tell though, we're all focused on getting our own caves ready. This kind of attitude isn't going to help the species survive in a post-oil world.

[DoctorDoom]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('And_over', '
')As far as I can tell though, we're all focused on getting our own caves ready.

[TT]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('And_over', 'I')'ve got it made. My parents are multimillionaires and they made their money in energy, so any price rise is good for us.

[paoniapbud]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('And_over', '
')I'm not really worried about myself. I've got it made. My parents are multimillionaires and they made their money in energy, so any price rise is good for us. I've got a great education, and I'm happy.

[And_over]

DoctorDoom wrote:
Not all. Some of us are reducing our footprint and trying to get others to start thinking about same.

Thats good to hear. I must be reading the wrong threads. The way I see it, to steal a quote, is, "United we stand, divided we fall."


TT wrote: Huh??????

Well, over 52 years the money adds up. Especially with the right investments, ie energy. Especially the last few years. But while he does make a lot of money, $600,000 isn't going to change the course of nations.

paoniapbud:
They made their money in energy. Literally, they own oil wells. As I see it, those wells are worth their weight in gold.

I realize now that I should have said that the money wasn't a problem... I'm just feeling disconnected.

[kevincarter]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')I feel like I want to do something

[Brasso]

Actually, I think there's quite alot you could do. Why not start with your own community? You could look at getting a large-scale wind turbine (250KW?) for the community. I'm not talking about you or your family bank-rolling it, but at the least, setting it up so that each household can buy into it. It would sure help to have someone like yourself leading such a project.

What about starting a business fitting solar panels (hot water or PV) in your local area?

There are any number of projects you could start if you think about it. Make a list of some things you might like to do, then just get started!

[Hermes]

Having a large amount of money enables a person to prepare for the coming times, and prepare more quickly and effectively. That money should be used for preparation ASAP.

Regardless of how much money you THINK you may be sitting on you can kiss it all goodbye if it's not transferred into a post TSHTF form before TSHTF, like precious metals, real goods and land.

Furthermore if you don't have your own systems of food/water/shelter worked out when TSHTF you can either: 1: let people know you're rich so they can charge you a priceless painting from your wall for a bowl of watery bean soup, or 2: go out into the fields and bust up some rock with a pickaxe for a day for a bowl of watery bean soup.

Your choice.