[emersonbiggins]

Great site recommended by a friend for deobfuscating the economic performance indicators coming out of you-know-where.
[web]http://www.shadowstats.com[/web]

[SchroedingersCat]

There is a large wesite covering this subject here:
The Grandfather Report

He's a bit preachy and political, but some interesting thoughts and stats.

[Wednesday]

On Monday, June 19, about 4,000 government workers representing more than 50 federal agencies from the State Department to the Commodity Futures Trading Commission will say goodbye to their families and set off for dozens of classified emergency facilities stretching from the Maryland and Virginia suburbs to the foothills of the Alleghenies. They will take to the bunkers in an "evacuation" that my sources describe as the largest "continuity of government" exercise ever conducted, a drill intended to prepare the U.S. government for an event even more catastrophic than the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

The exercise is the latest manifestation of an obsession with government survival that has been a hallmark of the Bush administration since 9/11, a focus of enormous and often absurd time, money and effort that has come to echo the worst follies of the Cold War. The vast secret operation has updated the duck-and-cover scenarios of the 1950s with state-of-the-art technology -- alerts and updates delivered by pager and PDA, wireless priority service, video teleconferencing, remote backups -- to ensure that "essential" government functions continue undisrupted should a terrorist's nuclear bomb go off in downtown Washington

Washington Post

[rsch20]

taken from the same article, speaking about specific evacuation route plans.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')ut fear not: Each organization's COOP, or continuity of operations plan, details the best routes to the emergency locations. The plans even spell out what evacuees should take with them (recommended items: a combination lock, a flashlight, two towels and a small box of washing powder).

[oswald622]

Hm?

[SoothSayer]

Every government has a responsibility to have some sort of Civil Defence system in place.

It's really a no-win situation:
If the Govt has not set up a Civil Defence system and then a disaster hits, the Govt will be blamed.
However if no incident occurs then the Govt apears to be silly and has wasted money.

[Wednesday]

Yes, I see that preparations are valid, but do we really need a Patent Office in the case of nuclear war?

[SoothSayer]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Wednesday', 'Y')es, I see that preparations are valid, but do we really need a Patent Office in the case of nuclear war?

[Doly]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Wednesday', 'Y')es, I see that preparations are valid, but do we really need a Patent Office in the case of nuclear war?

[Colorado-Valley]

Remember this article? The Atlantic Monthly Mar 2004
The Armageddon Plan
"During the Reagan era Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld were key players in a clandestine program designed to set aside the legal lines of succession and immediately install a new "President" in the event that a nuclear attack killed the country's leaders. The program helps explain the behavior of the Bush Administration on and after 9/11 ..."
They've been planning this for decades.

[SoothSayer]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Colorado-Valley', 'R')emember this article? The Atlantic Monthly Mar 2004 The Armageddon Plan
"During the Reagan era Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld were key players in a clandestine program designed to set aside the legal lines of succession and immediately install a new "President" in the event that a nuclear attack killed the country's leaders. The program helps explain the behavior of the Bush Administration on and after 9/11 ..."
They've been planning this for decades.

[Zantarra]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Wednesday', 'Y')es, I see that preparations are valid, but do we really need a Patent Office in the case of nuclear war?

[mjpete]

Please save us from the conspiracy theorists.

[DesertBear2]

This is not new. Mount Weather outside of Washington DC is an underground complex dedicated to the survival of the Federal gubbermint in the event of a nuclear attack. The Feds in the 60s would regularly rotate federal personnel to the complex so that everyone would be coordinated and familiar with the plan. They even rotated personnel in the role of Commander in Chief so that many different people would be minimally competent to take charge.

My father was a mid-level statistician in DC during the 60s. He was at the Mt. Weather complex for a several day training event. At one point he was given command of the entire "surviving" US government and would theoretically have been able to launch nuclear strikes on hostile forces.

Most modern nations in the age of nuclear weaponry have such an accomodation to ensure the continuity and order of the basic functions of the society. After all, a nuclear attack could involve a single weapon on DC or thousands of weapons in a coordinated attack...or anything in between. They need to plan on the basis that the society will survive and attack and carry on.

[Dreamtwister]

Yeah, and people think I'm crazy when I start going on about COG and FEMA's underground bunkers.

[Pablo2079]

I'm not sure why this would surprise anyone. Corporations would consider the patent office to be critical.

By the corporations... for the corporations.....

[ritter]

I wonder if they'll be better able to govern from an underground lair than they were from above ground during Katrina..... At least we know the world's most incompetent will survive to reproduce.

[Fishman]

Wednesday, So why would preparation for a disaster, after 9/11, after Katrina, with threats from assorted nuclear capable, nuclear aquiring and nuclear hopeful countries and groups be considered obsessional? Even if a liberal Democratic president did the same, that would seem wise to me, not obsessional.

[gt1370a]

Anybody remember from spring of 2006 the discussions about a Fed working group on "Newbank"?

The stated purpose of this bank would be to take over the clearing activities of US Govt securities in the event that one of the current clearing banks (JP Morgan Chase or the Bank of New York) was defunct and no longer able to perform its function.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')uch activation would occur if a credit or legal problem caused the market to lose confidence in an existing clearing bank, and no well-qualified bank stepped forward to purchase the exiting bank's clearing business.

[tin]

all one has to do is google bilderberg. It is a secret club for the ultra ultra elite of the world, basically a shadow government. They determine what wars are to be fought and what direction to take the world's economy. Oil prices have nothing to do with markets. In 2006 it was leaked that the bilderberg group wanted oil prices to increase dramatically and a year later they had doubled from 40 to 80. It is basically an attack on the middle class and a first step in trying to push threw the North American Union . Once you understand what is really going on that this is a false scarcity being imposed on the world to drive up oil prices then it all makes sense. The Bilderberg group is holding their secret meeting in D.C this year on june 5th- 8th . Hey I would be happy if you don't believe me, just google it and do a few minutes of research. Just trying to wake people out of this false reality they have put us in...... One more thing i would like to add. Global warming is a scam being promoted by the U.N . If people would do a little digging they would realize that temperature variations on earth is a solar event, not something that is cause by people driving around in suv's. The sun goes threw subtle changes in the solar radiation output it produces which effects the temperature of the earth. The polar ice caps on mars have also been shrinking due to these changes and the frozen moons around Jupiter are now actually liquid due to these solar changes. The carbon tax is a scam and a money grab by the U.N to siphon wealth out of the middle class into its own coffers to push forward with its goal of becoming a world governing body. Carbon is a naturally occurring gas that plants breath but they have convinced the uneducated public that it is some kind of nuclear waste. There are no suv's driving around on mars or those once ice covered moons but the same thing is happening there... Hope this wakes some people up to whats really going on... Remember research bilderberg, don't take my word for it..