[Lokutus]

Okay, I have this anglophile friend who claims that Great Britain is actually pulling the strings which control US foreign policy and always has been. For example, he claims that the Brits are the ones who wanted to regain control of Iraq again, so they had the US act as if it was taking the lead role in the invasion. This way the puppet US would be the lightening rod for global protests and denunciations and not the Brits.

[Ok, I am posting this out of boredom. However stay with me.]

Whenever I hear this, I tell my fiend that Britain is now the USA's "little buddy" [like the Skipper and Gilligan]. Then he gets all upset and starts telling me about how the Illuminati and Bilderbergers control everything from Britain. He also likes to remind me that most US presidents can trace their lineage back to British Royalty. In fact, according to him, no one can get elected president unless they are of this royal lineage.

At this point my eyes glaze over with boredom.

So, any comments or opinions on which of the two great English speaking powers is in the driver's seat?

[Loki]

He wishes. Britain is a tired old toothless has-been that's too cowardly to kick out the jihadist clerics from their own country. If anybody is pulling the neocons' strings it's Israel. They've done a magnificent job of infiltrating our government. What's good for Israel is good for America.

[Lokutus]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Loki', 'H')e wishes. Britain is a tired old toothless has-been that's too cowardly to kick out the jihadist clerics from their own country. If anybody is pulling the neocons' strings it's Israel. They've done a magnificent job of infiltrating our government. What's good for Israel is good for America.

[emailking]

Is it true though that all Presidents have a link to British royalty? Surely, this must be known if true, but I have never heard it before.

[Lokutus]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emailking', 'I')s it true though that all Presidents have a link to British royalty? Surely, this must be known if true, but I have never heard it before.

[venky]

Well, it does seem that George Bush (and John Kerry too) is Queen Elizabeth II, something like 16th cousin a few times removed. A common ancestor in the 16th century.

[Micki]

Well the Brittish royal lineage is a FRAUD.
Edward the 4th was a bastard son and unrightful heir of the throne.
The true King of Brittain lives in Australia and there is pretty good evidence of that.
The Age Article - King of the Britts
Throw out the con artists! Long live King Mike!

[Loki]

I thought Paul Hogan was the heir to the British throne? Maybe I'm confusing him with Mel Gibson. All you Aussies look alike to me.

[mrniceguy]

Not the first time I've heard this,
http://cyclone696.blogspot.com/2006_02_ ... chive.html Look at the entry on Wednesday Feb 8th. I always read cyclones work and respect hs opinions, however I think he is off the mark on this one.

[RG73]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Loki', 'H')e wishes. Britain is a tired old toothless has-been that's too cowardly to kick out the jihadist clerics from their own country. If anybody is pulling the neocons' strings it's Israel. They've done a magnificent job of infiltrating our government. What's good for Israel is good for America.

[Loki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RG73', '
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Thanks Hitler. Yes, the Jews are controlling the world.

[thor]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Loki', 'I')f you don't think the Israeli lobby exercises an undue influence on American foreign policy, you're a truly brainless fuck.

[Doly]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('thor', '
')There is no Zionist conspiracy and there never will be. The Jews do not control the world, never did, and never will. There is no such thing as an Israeli lobby playing us like a trumpet. Nope, Israel is a tiny democratic country that simply wants to survive the ongoing Islamist hatred.

[turp182]

Regarding our ties to Israel.

I just go by the published battle plans.

If anyone touches Israel then the United States will attack.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/05/ ... index.html

From the article: "I told the prime minister what I've stated publicly before: Israel is a close friend and ally of the United States. And in the event of any attack on Israel, the United States will come to Israel's aid," Bush said.

Could Israel instigate such a thing?

Who's in control, at least when it comes to a conflict with Israel?

Why would we stake our military future in this manner, tied to the fate of one other nation?

Of course we ignore the Palestinian conflict, which is a war (it's not terrorism, it's just a war, it's been fought over the past few decades).

Regarding conspiracy theory, I don't concern myself with them, there's enough published "out in the open" things to worry about. Seriously, tie Bill Clinton to British Rolyalty, I dare you.

[julianj]

Just to limp back on topic.

No, I don't believe that Britain is manipulating America. In fact I don't know why we're their bitch at all.

In some gangster films the ruthless New Boss keeps the neutered Old Boss around as a symbol of both his mercy and his power, that's currently the relationship between the previously Glorious-sun-never-sinks Britain, and the newly glorious We-make-our-own-Reality US Empire, IMO.

Cheers, or should I say ruff-ruff!

Posting from deep inside Poodleville,

Julian

[Dreamtwister]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emailking', 'I')s it true though that all Presidents have a link to British royalty? Surely, this must be known if true, but I have never heard it before.

[julianj]

I've never heard this before either. I think somebody should post a genealogical chart. Then I'll believe it. Until then it stays in the "abiotic oil" area of my (semi) consciousness

[Dreamtwister]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('julianj', 'I')'ve never heard this before either. I think somebody should post a genealogical chart. Then I'll believe it. Until then it stays in the "abiotic oil" area of my (semi) consciousness

[Lokutus]

I trace my lineage all the way back to Adam & Eve.

Jesus, what a load of absolute horseshit this is.

[julianj]

I agree with Lokutus. So what? Although I note that none of these people are connected to the current royal family the Windsors, previously Saxe-Coburg-Gotha.