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Re: Finding a wife post-peak

Unread postby MattSavinar » Mon 05 Jun 2006, 14:46:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jenab6', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MattSavinar', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')are, and not for what they have. Physically, they're beautiful. Morally, they're pretty nasty: treacherous, dangerous in a backstabbing kind of way.

But we need them to make children, don't we?

Jerry Abbott


Dude, neither gender has got it easy.

I remember my last law year of law school, the average woman in my class was probably about 27 years old. Cream of the crop in terms of intelligence, career prospects, etc. and many were quite good looking and also decent as people,etc. And guess what? Most were COMPLETELY freaked out that they weren't going to be married by 30.

Unfortunately for them, their fears weren't just paranoia because to most of us guys a woman at 35 is simply not as attractive as a woman at 25. That's just simple biology, whether people like it or not.

I suspect some, if not many, will end up marrying the next guy that comes along who fits the "minimum job requirements" more out of fear/insecurity than anything else. A few years later, when the guy is 45 and the woman is 40 and has had two kids, he'll start cheating with a 25 year old.

We've all seen something like this either with relatives, friends, coworkers, neighbors, etc. haven't we?

Point is we have our problems, they have theirs.

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Unread postby MattSavinar » Mon 05 Jun 2006, 14:50:41

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')I do take exception though to the assumption that women do it more. In almost all of my relationships one of the biggest issues has been that I make more money than they do and then they resent it even as they are spending it. My best friend makes mroe as a hair dresser than her husband and he totally resents her for it.


I've never understood this. To me, a woman who makes more money than I do is not a problem at all. In fact, it's a solution!

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Re: Finding a wife post-peak

Unread postby uNkNowN ElEmEnt » Mon 05 Jun 2006, 15:35:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')e've all seen something like this either with relatives, friends, coworkers, neighbors, etc. haven't we?


My father just had a woman move in with him. He's turning 67 this year and she is 31 years younger.... yup, the next woman slated to become my step mother is 3 years younger than I am.
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Unread postby Jenab6 » Mon 05 Jun 2006, 16:51:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MattSavinar', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jenab6', 'B')ut we need them to make children, don't we?

Dude, neither gender has got it easy.

I remember my last law year of law school, the average woman in my class was probably about 27 years old. Cream of the crop in terms of intelligence, career prospects, etc. and many were quite good looking and also decent as people,etc. And guess what? Most were COMPLETELY freaked out that they weren't going to be married by 30.

That's part of the problem. They should have been married by 20, if they intend ever to have children. A medical fact, suppressed by feminism because it does not fit their gender equality doctrine, is that the pelvic bones of a human female don't keep their flexibility for long after that age - unless her first birth has occurred by then. Otherwise, those bones begin to calcify, with a progressive reduction in her ability to give birth safely. An early pregnancy halts the calcification and enables easy deliveries in future pregnancies.

Edit: After more study, I found out that what's known as "the birth canal" isn't a woman's vagina in general; it is, rather, that organ after it has assumed the increased size and shape required for an incipient childbirth. Not only is there a danger of calcification of the female pelvic bones, if childbirth is delayed long past the age of 20, but also there's the potential loss of the ability to form the birth canal correctly. It's as if a woman's body "learns" how to do this task well only if it attempts it first during her young adulthood. A delayed first pregnancy means a loss of tissue stretchability and resiliancy, with an increased likelihood of tearing and hemmorage, and consequently of mortality.

If you want a reference, here it is.

Hugo Sellheim—Zeitschrift fur Soziale Medizin, Leipzig, 1910, Vol. V, Heft 1, pp. 128-130. Quoted in translation by Anthony M. Ludovici in Truth about Childbirth, pp. 159-160. Dr. Selheim was Professor, Doctor of Medicine, Medical Adviser and Director of the Women's Clinic of Leipzig University, according to the German Wer Ist's for 1935.

I suppose what I'm getting at is we all have a certain amount of life, and life has natural obligations, different ones depending on what sort of organism we each happen to be, and there are natural penalties for failure to meet them.

The penalty to a woman for not having an early first child is an increased difficulty in childbirth in her later years, not to mention higher rates of mortality in childbirth for both mother and baby.

The penalty to a race whose women play games in lieu of having babies is extinction, and it does not matter what those games are. The world will be gained and kept by those races whose behavior is most in accordance with nature's laws. The wages of sin are death, and it is sin when some artificial standard of freedom comes to eclipse the natural requirements for existence.

Feminism speaks deadly ideology, as does every other equalitarian dogma. It is all very well to be fair when fairness can be afforded; but the idea of fairplay shouldn't be given any sort of holy halo. First struggle until the prerequisites of continued existence are satisfied, and then we shall see what can be done toward an establishment of justice. Dead people and dead races have no use for justice or for any other thing.

Otherwise, fairplay will have the same effect on humankind as the music of Sauron's ring had on Deagol, Smeagol, Boromir, Sam, and Frodo (if I may be forgiven the use of a fantasy allegory). We might become so hypnotized by the beauty of the concept of fairplay that we fail to notice as our race dwindles and vanishes.

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Re: Finding a wife post-peak

Unread postby Teclo » Mon 05 Jun 2006, 17:59:47

Feminism is fine by me

For a start we are more likely to destroy the human race by overbreeding than underbreeding, planets full
So you get groups that reproduce more than others, tact and diplomacy build a fence round your little culture

The base, nature idea of out breeding other races is futile and senseless and reduces quality of life for all

So I think the birth rate should hover around the death rate, which is what women having independance and few children does

I think the dislike of feminism is rooted in fear of other races but I could be wrong

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Re: Finding a wife post-peak

Unread postby Kylon » Mon 05 Jun 2006, 18:06:00

Jerry, not to fear,

Read THIS

http://www.scienceforums.net/forums/sho ... php?t=9057

This will make you feel a lot better I think!

Also, I think I know what the problem is with the device! I think I can fix it! Maybe I should e-mail them, what appears to me to be the obvious solution!
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Unread postby MattSavinar » Mon 05 Jun 2006, 18:17:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jenab6', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MattSavinar', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jenab6', 'B')ut we need them to make children, don't we?

Dude, neither gender has got it easy.

I remember my last law year of law school, the average woman in my class was probably about 27 years old. Cream of the crop in terms of intelligence, career prospects, etc. and many were quite good looking and also decent as people,etc. And guess what? Most were COMPLETELY freaked out that they weren't going to be married by 30.

That's part of the problem. They should have been married by 20, if they intend ever to have children. A medical fact, suppressed by feminism because it does not fit their gender equality doctrine, is that the pelvic bones of a human female don't keep their flexibility for long after that age - unless her first birth has occurred by then. Otherwise, those bones begin to calcify, with a progressive reduction in her ability to give birth safely. An early pregnancy halts the calcification and enables easy deliveries in future pregnancies.

If you want a reference, here it is.

Hugo Sellheim—Zeitschrift fur Soziale Medizin, Leipzig, 1910, Vol. V, Heft 1, pp. 128-130. Quoted in translation by Anthony M. Ludovici in Truth about Childbirth, pp. 159-160. Dr. Selheim was Professor, Doctor of Medicine, Medical Adviser and Director of the Women's Clinic of Leipzig University, according to the German Wer Ist's for 1935.

I suppose what I'm getting at is we all have a certain amount of life, and life has natural obligations, different ones depending on what sort of organism we each happen to be, and there are natural penalties for failure to meet them.

The penalty to a woman for not having an early first child is an increased difficulty in childbirth in her later years, not to mention higher rates of mortality in childbirth for both mother and baby.



Jerry Abbott


That doesn't surpise me at all. It only underscores my point, which is everybody has it tough, just in different ways.

As far as feminism, I'm all for it but the idea that a woman can have a successful career and be a good full time mom is virtually impossible given the physical and emotional demands of both occupations.

It's like expecting a baseball player to last past age 40. Occassionally there will be a feak like Julio Franco who can do it drug free just cause he's pout together a certain way. But must of the time they can only do it if their hopped up on lots of pharmaecuticals.

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Re: Finding a wife post-peak

Unread postby Kylon » Mon 05 Jun 2006, 18:50:15

Read this, whether It's good or bad, it's up to you!

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/ed ... bust_x.htm
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Re: Finding a wife post-peak

Unread postby ubercynicmeister » Mon 05 Jun 2006, 22:02:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kylon', 'W')hy will women be hard to come by post peak?

All of the yuppies(who tend to get the hot girls, since they offer the most consumeristic, consumption oriented life), will be displaced and starving. Their women will have to find new mates.


I got news for ya: the YUPPIES are female, too, y'know.

Personally, think that the Yuppies are a platoon of cloned alien invaders who use not just MIND control devices (Televisions) but PERSON controlling devices (mobile phones...let's face it if you have one of those you'll find everyone ringing you at the most inopportune times to tell you the most trivial of things...) in order to suck up all of the Earth's resources, then turn all of the rest of us into a source of cheap protein.

HECK, they've got Part 1 right! They've sucked up all of the Earth's resources! Well, ya gotta admire a successful plan, doncha?
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Re: Finding a wife post-peak

Unread postby ubercynicmeister » Mon 05 Jun 2006, 22:03:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('markam', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')ou should learn to be self-sufficient, and to grow your own women in your garden.


I tried that, but the damn squirrels keep eating them, and its just too much trouble to get new seeds.


Heck, I had theat problem, but it was the possums which kept eatin' 'em....and shooting the possums isn't allowed.

Hmm, this problem looks difficult...mebbe MORE difficult than Peak Oil to "solve" (erm...avoid? Side-step?)
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Re: Finding a wife post-peak

Unread postby ubercynicmeister » Mon 05 Jun 2006, 23:22:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MattSavinar', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jenab6', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MattSavinar', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')are, and not for what they have. Physically, they're beautiful. Morally, they're pretty nasty: treacherous, dangerous in a backstabbing kind of way.

But we need them to make children, don't we?

Jerry Abbott


Dude, neither gender has got it easy.


Y'reckon?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') remember my last law year of law school, the average woman in my class was probably about 27 years old. Cream of the crop in terms of intelligence, career prospects, etc. and many were quite good looking and also decent as people,etc.


Lawyers...decent...? NO, those two words should never be used in the same phrase. Male OR female. It's like "Honest Politician" or "Good Economist".

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')nd guess what? Most were COMPLETELY freaked out that they weren't going to be married by 30.


YUP, the Hand Of Old Father Time was a tappin' on their shoulder....now think about the way they would react to Peak Oil type of info? Y'know...a real threat?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'U')nfortunately for them, their fears weren't just paranoia because to most of us guys a woman at 35 is simply not as attractive as a woman at 25. That's just simple biology, whether people like it or not.

Mebbe, mebbe not. Sheer agreeability is very high on most men's agenda for whom they would choose as partners. Age really don't come into it.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') suspect some, if not many, will end up marrying the next guy that comes along who fits the "minimum job requirements" more out of fear/insecurity than anything else.

LOL, no, they will pick whomever is a rich bully, thus they won't "feel guilty" (as one girl put it to me) because they'd feel bad about breaking up with a good guy.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A') few years later, when the guy is 45 and the woman is 40 and has had two kids, he'll start cheating with a 25 year old.

We've all seen something like this either with relatives, friends, coworkers, neighbors, etc. haven't we?

One of my idiot Yuppie relatives has married a girl he thinks is stupider than him (if she really was that dumb, she'd have trouble remembering to breathe, but that's another story).

One day, just a week after she got married to him, Missus Yuppie got drunk, not leglessly drunk, just talkative drunk. She spent the next few hours regaling me and my Mum with her plans to ditch hubbie after 10 years, because then he would have reached the top of his earnings' potential. It's getting that close, now and - surprise surprise, there's trouble in the marriage.

Wouldn't have anything to do with hubby reaching the peak of his earnings potential, now, would it?

In any case - lawyers would far rather represent women clients in any legal case, since the system (as one lawyer put it) is so "clearly biased in their (women's) favour."

Matt - don't you KNOW this?

Do I have to go into the legal history of the US' Politically Correct "Justice" system for ya? C'mon....tell me I don't have to. Mind you, such bias is now coming back to bite those it wuz supposed to be biased in favour of...OH, well, they were warned.
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Re: Finding a wife post-peak

Unread postby mmasters » Tue 06 Jun 2006, 00:10:13

People, this ain't rocket science.

Survival is the first and foremost need, then comes mating.

Women instinctively seek out males they percieve can provide for their needs. They are comfortable with these males for reproduction. Currently pure survival needs aren't an issue, so higher level needs become a focus. Women with strong materialistic sides will go for the rich playboys/stockbrokers. Women with strong personality cravings will go for the fascinating thinkers/creative men. Etc... There are many types of women with different high level needs.

However, when the shit hits the fan these high level needs go out the window, ALL women (that aren't psychologically destroyed by the crisis) will be drawn like flies to shit to the man ready for the future. You will be THE top dog and have the pick of the litter. This is not a problem worth thinking about whatsover.
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Unread postby Jenab6 » Tue 06 Jun 2006, 07:22:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Teclo', 'F')or a start we are more likely to destroy the human race by overbreeding than underbreeding; [the] planet's full. So you get groups that reproduce more than others, tact and diplomacy build a fence round your little culture. The base, nature idea of out breeding other races is futile and senseless and reduces quality of life for all....

I'm reminded of that first year of calculus when students are trying to sort out the meaning of derivatives in ascending order.

The zeroth derivative is simply the value of the function; where the zeroth derivative is zero, the function has a root (it crosses the domain axis). The first derivative is the slope of the tangent line at that part of the function; where the first derivative is zero, the function has a local maximum or minimum. The second derivative is the rate at which the first derivative is changing; where the second derivative is zero, the function has an inflexion point. The third derivative is the rate at which the second derivative is changing, etc.

If you've taken that calculus course, you've seen students struggle to assimilate the various ideas entailed by differentiation and sort them in relationship to each other.

But you can see the same sort of struggle, or failure to struggle, in the realm of social or political ideas. Some people never get past noticing that a certain thing is "positive," or, perhaps we should say, "progressive." They see the zeroth derivative of a situation, but that's all they see, and, for many of them, it's all they want to see or ever will see.

If you think about it, though, you'll realize that every social function is dynamic and therefore has derivatives of higher order. What is positive now might not stay positive; it might lead to a maximum followed by a downturn. In order to understand ideas such as this, it's helpful to study history and make thoughtful comparisons, and learn to recognize specious modern "hip" propaganda whenever you hear it.

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Re: Finding a wife post-peak

Unread postby Jenab6 » Tue 06 Jun 2006, 07:47:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ubercynicmeister', 'L')awyers...decent...? NO, those two words should never be used in the same phrase. Male OR female. It's like "Honest Politician" or "Good Economist".

I've known decent lawyers. Relatively decent, anyway. The problem with lawyers isn't they they're moral idiots; they're actually better than most people are at sorting out right from wrong. They generally have a good grip on the meaning of rights and values and the motives of people.

No, what's wrong with lawyers is materialism. Most people will do right when they understand right. A lawyer will wait to be paid. He'll argue that somebody ought to pay him to do such-and-such, because so-and-so really deserves help but can't pony up a retainer. You've never seen imposture until you've seen a lawyer crying over the miserable fate of somebody whom he'd like to help, if only the necessary silver could be forthcoming.

I know of a group of people, all of them in the same boat in the political sense, who seek to right an old injustice involving the theft of a great deal of property. One of them is a lawyer. Every other member of that group is contributing their time, effort and money, but the lawyer is sucking the money up for himself. He's the only one involved who's demanding payment for his effort.

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Unread postby Doly » Tue 06 Jun 2006, 08:01:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jenab6', '
')But you can see the same sort of struggle, or failure to struggle, in the realm of social or political ideas. Some people never get past noticing that a certain thing is "positive," or, perhaps we should say, "progressive." They see the zeroth derivative of a situation, but that's all they see, and, for many of them, it's all they want to see or ever will see.


Good rant, but what does it actually MEAN? Because in the context of population, you have:

1) The main variable, population, which is necessarily positive
2) The first derivative, growth rate, which is being discussed here
3) The second derivative (whether growth rate is actually growing or decreasing), which is interesting for population projections. But if the discussion is about what the ideal growth rate is, I don't think the second derivative is particularly relevant, unless you are discussing whether you are approaching or not the ideal growth rate.

The poster above was clearly talking about comparing growth rates for different races, so he probably has a fair intuitive grasp of what a second derivative is in this case.
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Re: Finding a wife post-peak

Unread postby Jenab6 » Tue 06 Jun 2006, 09:06:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kylon', 'J')erry, not to fear, read THIS
http://www.scienceforums.net/forums/sho ... php?t=9057
This will make you feel a lot better I think!
Also, I think I know what the problem is with the device! I think I can fix it! Maybe I should e-mail them, what appears to me to be the obvious solution!

So, you propose we employ plastic wombs and eventually cull childbearing ability right out of human females, then sooner or later we lose the ability to make plastic wombs (or some necessary associated technology) and become extinct almost at once?

Never offload to technology to the point where it threatens the natural mode of survival. We keep doing this, and it's always a mistake.

Machine and chemical assisted agriculture ruined the farmland and polluted the environment while it raised the world population astoundingly, and, now that we've fallen into the trap and the consequences can't be avoided, the fools are finally waking up. The consequences should have been acknowledged from the beginning, but they weren't. They were known - predicted again and again - but the predictions never controlled agricultural policy. So here we are, at the brink of a dieoff.

Artificial wombs are more of the same. Women who can't safely have children the natural way should not have children at all. If they do, their children will inherit the birth defect of being unable to have safe births of children. The defective genes will spread and infest the human stock generally, and, if there ever should come a time when whatever technology is necessary to take the place of normal pregnancy becomes unavailable, the whole race will die.

Remember what I said about social situations having an evolution, a history, involving higher orders of derivatives. This failure to see any but the most immediate effects simply must stop; our ability to envision consequences must improve, or we'll continue banging into nature's punishments until we're gone.

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Unread postby Jenab6 » Tue 06 Jun 2006, 09:20:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jenab6', '
')But you can see the same sort of struggle, or failure to struggle, in the realm of social or political ideas. Some people never get past noticing that a certain thing is "positive," or, perhaps we should say, "progressive." They see the zeroth derivative of a situation, but that's all they see, and, for many of them, it's all they want to see or ever will see.


Good rant, but what does it actually MEAN?

I didn't think it would be necessary to walk anybody through the math. Very well.

During hard times, people combine with their likes in order to compete better against unlikes for the use of scarce resources.

While it is true that wars always, or almost always, result in a net loss of resources, the side that wins the war often accrues a gain. That's why the destructiveness of warfare has never put a permanent end to war.

All else being equal, greater numbers of warriors mean more ability to take resources away from others.

No matter how difficult the situation is for the average inhabitant of the planet, the situation will be much worse for people who find themselves on the side having the inferior army.

Even if the scarcity of resources is so severe that the world cannot support even all the members of the strongest race, those members will find it in their interests nonetheless to promote the further numerical increase of their kind. The reason is that other races will be doing this also. And the reason that all races will be doing it is that the side with the advantage, which will be found chiefly in numbers, will win and will displace all rivals from their territory.

Though many will perish even from the victorious race, the only chance that any member of any race has for survival is for their own race to be that victor.

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Re: Finding a wife post-peak

Unread postby LadyRuby » Tue 06 Jun 2006, 11:36:23

Funny post. Best bet is to find someone now who is totally on board with your plan. My husband thinks I'm a little wacky in mydoomsaying but now he's stuck with me since I wasn't wacky to begin with!!!
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Re: Finding a wife post-peak

Unread postby MattSavinar » Tue 06 Jun 2006, 17:34:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ubercynicmeister', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MattSavinar', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jenab6', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MattSavinar', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')are, and not for what they have. Physically, they're beautiful. Morally, they're pretty nasty: treacherous, dangerous in a backstabbing kind of way.

But we need them to make children, don't we?

Jerry Abbott


Dude, neither gender has got it easy.


Y'reckon?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') remember my last law year of law school, the average woman in my class was probably about 27 years old. Cream of the crop in terms of intelligence, career prospects, etc. and many were quite good looking and also decent as people,etc.


Lawyers...decent...? NO, those two words should never be used in the same phrase. Male OR female. It's like "Honest Politician" or "Good Economist".

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')nd guess what? Most were COMPLETELY freaked out that they weren't going to be married by 30.


YUP, the Hand Of Old Father Time was a tappin' on their shoulder....now think about the way they would react to Peak Oil type of info? Y'know...a real threat?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'U')nfortunately for them, their fears weren't just paranoia because to most of us guys a woman at 35 is simply not as attractive as a woman at 25. That's just simple biology, whether people like it or not.

Mebbe, mebbe not. Sheer agreeability is very high on most men's agenda for whom they would choose as partners. Age really don't come into it.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') suspect some, if not many, will end up marrying the next guy that comes along who fits the "minimum job requirements" more out of fear/insecurity than anything else.

LOL, no, they will pick whomever is a rich bully, thus they won't "feel guilty" (as one girl put it to me) because they'd feel bad about breaking up with a good guy.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A') few years later, when the guy is 45 and the woman is 40 and has had two kids, he'll start cheating with a 25 year old.

We've all seen something like this either with relatives, friends, coworkers, neighbors, etc. haven't we?

One of my idiot Yuppie relatives has married a girl he thinks is stupider than him (if she really was that dumb, she'd have trouble remembering to breathe, but that's another story).

One day, just a week after she got married to him, Missus Yuppie got drunk, not leglessly drunk, just talkative drunk. She spent the next few hours regaling me and my Mum with her plans to ditch hubbie after 10 years, because then he would have reached the top of his earnings' potential. It's getting that close, now and - surprise surprise, there's trouble in the marriage.

Wouldn't have anything to do with hubby reaching the peak of his earnings potential, now, would it?

In any case - lawyers would far rather represent women clients in any legal case, since the system (as one lawyer put it) is so "clearly biased in their (women's) favour."

Matt - don't you KNOW this?

Do I have to go into the legal history of the US' Politically Correct "Justice" system for ya? C'mon....tell me I don't have to. Mind you, such bias is now coming back to bite those it wuz supposed to be biased in favour of...OH, well, they were warned.

Yeah, all that is true. My only point is that life is freaking tough for each gender. And probably pretty 50/50 down the line.

Guy gets married, woman might leave for greener ($$$) pastures if his earnings potential drops.

Woman gest married, the man might leave for younger, less tilled pastures and the woman gets stuck with the kids. Sure, there are laws to protect her and make him kick in money but if the guy drags his feet then she is going to have it really hard as a single mom.

Young men (in most societies) have to seriously worry about getting killed in war, women have to worry about getting raped by their neighbor prior to the war and then later on by some invader(s) should her side lose the war. Whose got it tougher? I don't know, I think it's a pretty even split.

What I find amazing is men almost always say women have it easier and women almost always say men have it easier. Weird how that works, isn't it?

Best,

Matt
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Re: Finding a wife post-peak

Unread postby LadyRuby » Tue 06 Jun 2006, 17:53:34

What are you dudes, still living in the 50's? Women leaving a husband for more $$ and men leaving their middle aged wives for 25-year old sexpots. Sheesh, shall I call you Ward, as in Ward and June Cleaver?

Still expecting the little wife to greet you at home with the paper, your slippers, and a martini? Welcome to 2006, where many women make more than men and the rest are at least more reliable as income-earners. And make your own god-damned dinner.
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