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Piqued by peak oil

Unread postby Graeme » Sat 03 Jun 2006, 05:37:17

Piqued by peak oil

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')ased on Hubbert’s model, current total oil supply of about 85 million barrels per day is projected to remain more-or-less flat out to about 2012, and then decline at a rate of about 2% per year thereafter. Meanwhile, globally demand for oil is growing annually at a rate of about 2%. And there’s the rub. While conventional oil supply growth appears flat and may soon begin to decline, demand for liquid fuels continues to grow.
This means that by 2015, we could be facing a global shortfall of some 22 million barrels per day, representing the gap between global demand and conventional oil supply. To put this in perspective, a deficit of 22 million barrels per day would be greater than the current US consumption of oil.

The question is: can production from non-conventional sources such as the Alberta tar sands or synthetic fuels using coal-to-liquids (CTL) technology be ramped up to anything even approaching a supply deficit of 22 million barrels per day by 2015?

The answer appears to be a clear no.

Rather than focusing only on what I see as futile and costly attempts to continue to grow the supply of liquid fuels, efforts must be redirected to the demand side:

efficiency (doing more with less); conservation (just doing less);
designing compact, walkable urban communities;
emphasizing public transit including electric light rail;
switching to biofuels and other renewable energy sources;
relocalising organic food production, and so on.


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Re: Piqued by peak oil

Unread postby Sys1 » Sat 03 Jun 2006, 06:05:34

"switching to biofuels and other renewable energy sources;"

I agree withthe whole article but the sentence above. It gives to the reader the illusion that we'll be able to do as much with those alternatives energies as we do today with oil.
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Re: Piqued by peak oil

Unread postby PolestaR » Sat 03 Jun 2006, 07:52:19

Only GLOBAL efficiency and conservation methods will work. Otherwise any sector which conserves or increases it's efficiency will simply be giving it's surplus oil to other sectors.

So in short effect, unless countries start working together on this (they won't) then those 2 methods will never be used (unless of course you get a real idiot in control....)
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Re: Piqued by peak oil

Unread postby ReserveGrowthRulz » Sat 03 Jun 2006, 14:34:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Graeme', '[')b]Piqued by peak oil

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')ased on Hubbert’s model, current total oil supply of about 85 million barrels per day is projected to remain more-or-less flat out to about 2012, and then decline at a rate of about 2% per year thereafter.


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I'm betting Hubberts model never said 85mbpd is what we are supposed to be producing in 2006. Its quite likely Hubberts model never even modelled a peak production rate of 85mbpd and I'm betting Hubberts model never said anything about "flat out" and 2012 in the same sentence, anywhere, in any paper he ever wrote, contemplated or daydreamed. I'm also betting he never said anything about crude oil declining at a 2% rate near, on or after 2012 either.

These people who speculate themselves into a tizzy over manufactured numbers just make me want to puke.
So....heading into our 3rd year post peak and I'm still getting caught in traffic jams!! DieOff already!
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Re: Piqued by peak oil

Unread postby kam30en » Sun 04 Jun 2006, 23:03:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hese people who speculate themselves into a tizzy over manufactured numbers just make me want to puke.


True, we don't know what the decline rate is gonna be or when exactly the peak is gonna be. But what we can be sure of is that there will be a peak and that the easy living will end and we will step back into the real world as it was before industrialism and the way it will be for the rest of human beings' time on this planet.
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