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Are you proud for Ukrainian democracy?
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Are you proud for Ukrainian democracy?
by Ukrainian » Tue 16 May 2006, 01:24:15
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Re: Are you proud for Ukrainian democracy?
by Colorado-Valley » Tue 16 May 2006, 04:53:37
I've just heard that the Orange Revolution is pretty much over.
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Re: Are you proud for Ukrainian democracy?
by Doly » Tue 16 May 2006, 05:33:29
No, but then, I don't exactly follow events in Ukraine.
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Re: Are you proud for Ukrainian democracy?
by lutherquick » Tue 16 May 2006, 09:03:19
Democracy?
After the colored revolution capital flight is up 250%...
Like Georgia, corruption is up big time.
Yeltsin was the first colored revolution, and look at what the results are.
Democracy that is unlimited will only come when the economy is fixed. People have this delusion that first you must make democracy and that later the economy gets better, this is an America hallucination...
Ukraine was ordered by America to have a colored revolution only because America and the EU want Russia to give up the gaz and oil on the cheap (cheaper)...
Ukraine and Georgia are being used by the west.
What Ukraine needs is a strong leader, like Putin, that only cares about Ukrainian people, and works for them and works for trade with natural partners.
Saaskavili is an idiot. He can't sell sparkling water or wine to Russia because they send the worst quality north... At this point, it a matter of time.
As dollar hegemony wanes, Russia, Ukraine and Georgia, Belarus, all of their economies will recover. And then they will clearly see it is better to trade and work together, and at that point democracy will be better than any western nation...
Keep listening to America, sure... with the Iraqi track record, the US debt track record, you want companies in Ukraine to be like Enron?
After the colored revolution capital flight is up 250%...
Like Georgia, corruption is up big time.
Yeltsin was the first colored revolution, and look at what the results are.
Democracy that is unlimited will only come when the economy is fixed. People have this delusion that first you must make democracy and that later the economy gets better, this is an America hallucination...
Ukraine was ordered by America to have a colored revolution only because America and the EU want Russia to give up the gaz and oil on the cheap (cheaper)...
Ukraine and Georgia are being used by the west.
What Ukraine needs is a strong leader, like Putin, that only cares about Ukrainian people, and works for them and works for trade with natural partners.
Saaskavili is an idiot. He can't sell sparkling water or wine to Russia because they send the worst quality north... At this point, it a matter of time.
As dollar hegemony wanes, Russia, Ukraine and Georgia, Belarus, all of their economies will recover. And then they will clearly see it is better to trade and work together, and at that point democracy will be better than any western nation...
Keep listening to America, sure... with the Iraqi track record, the US debt track record, you want companies in Ukraine to be like Enron?
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Re: Are you proud for Ukrainian democracy?
by sch_peakoiler » Tue 16 May 2006, 09:28:26
Hey Luther, although some your posts are overemotional and lead me to argue with you, for this quote you get two thumbs up! I can not agree more.
"Democracy that is unlimited will only come when the economy is fixed. People have this delusion that first you must make democracy and that later the economy gets better, this is an America hallucination..."
Thats true, poor economy destroys democracy. And good economy builds up good democracy. The question is what are prerequisites for a good economy?
"Democracy that is unlimited will only come when the economy is fixed. People have this delusion that first you must make democracy and that later the economy gets better, this is an America hallucination..."
Thats true, poor economy destroys democracy. And good economy builds up good democracy. The question is what are prerequisites for a good economy?
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Re: Are you proud for Ukrainian democracy?
by Ukrainian » Tue 16 May 2006, 09:28:51
People,
be careful!
KGB agents working up this forum!
be careful!
KGB agents working up this forum!
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Re: Are you proud for Ukrainian democracy?
by sch_peakoiler » Tue 16 May 2006, 09:48:28
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ukrainian', 'P')eople,
be careful!
KGB agents working up this forum!
be careful!
KGB agents working up this forum!
lol, I think all big intelligence services keep track on what is going on here (because the forum is um.. unconventional). but they do not do any propaganda or show their presence. I think luther is neither KGB nor russian - it would be too obvious. Where is the covert action part then? What kind of a KGB agent would he be if he was debunked in no time after his first post
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Re: Are you proud for Ukrainian democracy?
by Ukrainian » Tue 16 May 2006, 09:56:26
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sch_peakoiler', '
')lol, I think all big intelligence services keep track on what is going on here (because the forum is um.. unconventional). but they do not do any propaganda or show their presence. I think luther is neither KGB nor russian - it would be too obvious. Where is the covert action part then? What kind of a KGB agent would he be if he was debunked in no time after his first post
')lol, I think all big intelligence services keep track on what is going on here (because the forum is um.. unconventional). but they do not do any propaganda or show their presence. I think luther is neither KGB nor russian - it would be too obvious. Where is the covert action part then? What kind of a KGB agent would he be if he was debunked in no time after his first post
Oh, man
If luther's work is not a propaganda... then I'm a medved
preved
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Re: Are you proud for Ukrainian democracy?
by sch_peakoiler » Tue 16 May 2006, 10:09:40
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ukrainian', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sch_peakoiler', '
')lol, I think all big intelligence services keep track on what is going on here (because the forum is um.. unconventional). but they do not do any propaganda or show their presence. I think luther is neither KGB nor russian - it would be too obvious. Where is the covert action part then? What kind of a KGB agent would he be if he was debunked in no time after his first post
')lol, I think all big intelligence services keep track on what is going on here (because the forum is um.. unconventional). but they do not do any propaganda or show their presence. I think luther is neither KGB nor russian - it would be too obvious. Where is the covert action part then? What kind of a KGB agent would he be if he was debunked in no time after his first post
Oh, man
If luther's work is not a propaganda... then I'm a medved
preved
he does propaganda for sure. I just doubt his allegiance to KGB. cause his prop. is too obvious and makes people laugh. In fact if you read "Geopolitics" here (old topics i mean), you will see that he has been doing that for a while now, we kinda got used to it:):)
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