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How many people here are rooting for peak oil?

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Re: How many people here are rooting for peak oil?

Postby skeptic » Wed 31 May 2006, 17:13:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Roymund', 'S')eriously, how many people here are rooting for peak oil and are going to relish the supposed upcoming economic meltdown with a kind of "I told you so!" attitude?
The Misanthropists, sadists , psychopaths, masochists, and those suffering from alienation - and various other saddoes and missfits with a chip on their shoulder and a grudge against the world undoubtedly have that sort of attitude. I think thats sick. The effects a serious recession or depression has on people'[s lives is no joke. Its not some sort of game to be smirked at.

Personally I hope and sometimes fanatasisze that it never happens.

Unfortunately and logically I know that it has to.
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Re: How many people here are rooting for peak oil?

Postby Atlantean_Relic » Wed 31 May 2006, 17:16:13

If the Scientists think 3/4 of us need to kick it, who are we to argue? Least we can do is have fun while doing it.
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Re: How many people here are rooting for peak oil?

Postby Jack » Wed 31 May 2006, 17:31:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('skeptic', 'T')he effects a serious recession or depression has on people'[s lives is no joke. Its not some sort of game to be smirked at.


Indeed not. It is a superb opportunity - a chance to obtain assets at bargain prices.

A deep depression would offer the chance to make a fortune. 8)
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Re: How many people here are rooting for peak oil?

Postby Tinman » Thu 01 Jun 2006, 01:35:47

I would say that I am not hoping that PO is the end of the world, however I am hoping it is the end of globalization. [smilie=clock.gif]
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Re: How many people here are rooting for peak oil?

Postby Wednesday » Thu 01 Jun 2006, 13:43:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seldom_seen', 'I')'m not for or against peak oil. Nor do I root for the tide to go out at the beach, or the leaves to fall off the trees in autumn.

It just happens naturally. Human beings, as detrivores, are following a pattern seen throughout nature:

feed off detritus --> population bloom --> detritus supply crunch --> population crash

I think we'll still be around though a few centuries from now, albeit in greatly diminished numbers and quite a bit more humble. Whoever said "the meek shall inherit the earth" was on to something.


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Re: How many people here are rooting for peak oil?

Postby Pops » Thu 01 Jun 2006, 14:15:49

Nice tag line Jack!

:-D
The legitimate object of government, is to do for a community of people, whatever they need to have done, but can not do, at all, or can not, so well do, for themselves -- in their separate, and individual capacities.
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Re: How many people here are rooting for peak oil?

Postby seldom_seen » Fri 02 Jun 2006, 03:49:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('magician', 'w')hat im not prepared for is a total police state, fema work camps, infra-red flyovers over the mts for escaped fema camp workers, RFID chips in us and our children. food ration chips. civilian relocation...

I've made a similar point several times on this forum.

Given the choice between peak oil and current trends extrapolated in to the future without peakoil. I would choose peak oil every time.

It's a race against time. The megamachine is in a desperate, brutal effort for more power, control and growth right now. At the same time the megamachine is starting to choke and sputter, and pieces are breaking off and whizzing by.

The bad side is that the megamachine won't go quietly. It will try to take all of us with it if it can, because it is geared only for death. The good side, and the happy ending is that the megamachine is in a terminal state. When all is said and done the megamachine will be dead.

This will be a most glorious day, and I hope there are many people, and a multitude of other species around to dance and sing and celebrate the death of the industrial megamachine.
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Re: How many people here are rooting for peak oil?

Postby holmes » Fri 02 Jun 2006, 15:21:03

Seldom says it all! If you have a soul and have any human qualities left the party will be spectacular! True compassion and love. Freedom! Brutal for sure but once done a chance for renewal. I will teach all the children I know to cast off cornucopians like lepers. Hate the machine. Thats what I will do until death. its the only chance and hope healthy bright and vibrant children will ahve. They might not know it yet. teach them well!
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Re: How many people here are rooting for peak oil?

Postby rwwff » Fri 02 Jun 2006, 17:32:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('holmes', 'I') will teach all the children I know to cast off cornucopians like lepers. Hate the machine!


I think I'll stick with teaching mine about growing grain and vegetables, hunting, fishing, etc...

On top of the math, chemistry, biology, and the meriad of other things that may prove essential later on; I think thats quite enough.
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Re: How many people here are rooting for peak oil?

Postby holmes » Fri 02 Jun 2006, 17:50:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rwwff', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('holmes', 'I') will teach all the children I know to cast off cornucopians like lepers. Hate the machine!


I think I'll stick with teaching mine about growing grain and vegetables, hunting, fishing, etc...

On top of the math, chemistry, biology, and the meriad of other things that may prove essential later on; I think thats quite enough.


That is all good however if history is an indicator your going to have to teach them how to defend and fight as well. Also the fishing and hunting is propably not needed. The land will be cleansed of wildlife when the pop crash occurs. The great depression they ate the animals in zoos u know.
So teach them how to defend and fight instead of some of the other things. But good for u. You need to be proud.
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Re: How many people here are rooting for peak oil?

Postby ravensburg » Sat 03 Jun 2006, 22:48:31

Yes I am rooting for it,
At what point do we sit down and decided that eternal growth is not worth the price that we are going to have to pay for it. There are houses everywhere, the pavement never seems to end and you are not able to get away from people at all anymore. I am sorry but I have no ambition to live like a sardine when there are 11 billion people on this world. If things keep going like this there will be no such thing as wildlife, no such thing as wilderness. I am afraid however that I live in a fantasy; I keep hoping that when it happens we will wake up and see a different and better way of life. In the end I think either way if we find a solution, or if we don’t this world is not going to be a nice place to live in.
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Re: How many people here are rooting for peak oil?

Postby parsifal » Mon 05 Jun 2006, 20:09:46

We are peasants anyway...PO gives us our primordial milieu back. Besides, I see it as an opportunity for the rebalance of things. Men will be men again.
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Re: How many people here are rooting for peak oil?

Postby FairMaiden » Wed 07 Jun 2006, 18:22:11

I am not rooting for PO. For the same reason some root for it. I am worried that a post-PO will give states the excuse they need to complete this trip to an Orwellian future. Yet, I also agree that our Western lifestyle is just not sustainable. We see India and China trying to follow us down that path and its just not possible to sustain that level. So something has to give. We don't know what evil awaits us on the other side of PO...I prefer the beast I know...of course, nature/fate/destiny isn't asking me ;-)
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Re: How many people here are rooting for peak oil?

Postby kam30en » Sat 10 Jun 2006, 04:59:45

I am absolutely not rooting for peak oil. I wish I had been born in 1920 and just enjoyed the good times. Peak oil will probably kill me.
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Re: How many people here are rooting for peak oil?

Postby SoothSayer » Sat 10 Jun 2006, 05:16:07

Peak Oil in the UK will simply devastate our very cramped and relatively clean & tidy island.

It won't suddenly become a haven full of delightful small holdings.

It will - over a period of 10-20 years - become a hell hole of broken buildings, wandering thugs, petty beaureaucrats, aggressive (or absent) policing and so on.

I can't even to begin to comprehend the racial issues which could result.

It probably won't be Mad Max time - just very, very unpleasant for many people.

So, no I don't want Peak Oil to happen.
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Re: How many people here are rooting for peak oil?

Postby parsifal » Sat 10 Jun 2006, 11:12:37

I am a dysfunctional person in the modern world, but I respond better in crisis. Maybe I am rooting for PO to see what I am really made of when the chips are down. I have had training for this, however.
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Re: How many people here are rooting for peak oil?

Postby mortifiedpenguin » Sat 10 Jun 2006, 16:31:27

Anyone who is rooting for peak oil is an asshole. People are going to die. The global economy is going to slump. Hard. You're most likely going to have to give up a lot of things, including that computer you're typing on right now that you're damn lucky to have. Unless you get solar panels, but that's not the point. Anyone who wants this to happen is a sorry excuse for a human being.
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Re: How many people here are rooting for peak oil?

Postby Atlantean_Relic » Sat 10 Jun 2006, 22:29:31

To be or not to be, that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them.
Was a long and dark December
When the banks became cathedrals
And the fog
Became God
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Re: How many people here are rooting for peak oil?

Postby Declan » Sun 11 Jun 2006, 04:47:03

Yes, I am rooting for it. Reason? Because I believe it is coming, beyond any shadow of doubt and if that’s the case, why prolong the agony?

Also, I hope that it is a fast and hard crash because a slow and mild slide will negatively affect even those who are prepared by draining their resources, both mental and physical.

Do I fit in these days? Honestly, I don’t, but I fake it very well. I have a good job, a good marriage, a beautiful child and a second one on the way, I live in a nice house, I have a great extended family, awesome friends yet I still feel like I’ve been dropped off on the wrong planet. I can’t identify with any of the desires of the general population these days.
Does that make me a loser? I don’t think so but you’re welcome to have your own opinions.

I truly believe that man kind was not meant to live the way we are living and I am not just talking about the last half a century. Look as far back along history as you want and you will see the same cycle of behavior looping around over and over where the dominant social class controls every aspect of the lives of the lower, subservient class, including their spiritual enlightening.

Without going into a very long commentary on the subject of social classes and subjugation throughout history here’s what I hope Peak Oil and the sub sequential societal break down will bring:
- a world without borders and without never-ending, suffocating rules and regulations
- an age where man kind becomes preoccupied with spiritual matters such as our origin, our purpose and our creator
- a chance for everyone to experience life as (I believe) it was meant to be; one big adventure, a hell of a ride, a breath taking journey

I truly hope that my kids won’t have to live through the same staged bullshit that we call “our lives” and there is only one way for that to happen; this all has to end and a new age must start.
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Re: How many people here are rooting for peak oil?

Postby chukar » Sun 11 Jun 2006, 06:20:22

Of course not! The way I see it, peak oil means the return of diseases such as cholera and bubonic plague. I'm in a terrible situation. Hawaii is ridiculously overcrowded, dependent on massive good and energy imports and the problems only worsen every year. As much as I'd like to see a change of lifestyle, I value my health and security.
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