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Peak oil used to be simple
Re: Peak oil used to be simple
by NeoPeasant » Fri 02 Jun 2006, 13:46:52
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '"')Planning for the future" seems a bit pointless because nobody has the first clue as to how all this is going to play out. Nobody knows when anything will start, or what the magnitude of the effects will really be, or how we will react and respond to the changes.
The only thing I am certain about the future is that there will be less stuff available. Nearly all of what we have was given to us courtesy of energy.
With that in mind, my "planning for the future" strategy is to start with a list of all the stuff I'm used to having, and whittle it down to the stuff I really need to remain alive and healthy. Then I do my best to learn how to acquire and secure those things.
The list is surprisingly short. I need food, clean water, somewhere to poop and get cleaned up, a box where I can take shelter from bad weather, some warm clothes, sleeping bags or blankety things to stay warm, and access to rudimentary health care as the need arises. Everything else is a luxury. Being happy in the absence of luxuries is mostly a matter of attitude.
The battle to preserve our lifestyle has already been lost. The battle to preserve our lives is just beginning.
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Re: Peak oil used to be simple
by Geko45 » Fri 02 Jun 2006, 13:54:31
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NeoPeasant', 's')omewhere to poop and get cleaned up
You don't plan on using the same spot for both, right?
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Re: Peak oil used to be simple
by paoniapbud » Fri 02 Jun 2006, 14:30:11
You know, years ago I could never understand the "survivalist" mentality. It was usually a joke in the movies; the Vietnam Vet who lost his marbles, the disenfranchised militia-man who hates the government just because.
Now with PO I have a whole new appreciation for the concept. Jeez, I've just been floating through life like the rest of "them" until I read Twilight in the Desert. I took the red pill and here I am.(or was it the blue pill?)
We are in for tough times folks. I agree carving out a meager existence is a frame of mind thing. However, I think that oversimplifies our situation a bit. PO is a paradigm shifting event. Much like the tech-optimist babble about the "singularity" when AI asserts itself over us, PO will have a singularity of its own, only in reverse.
Simply, we are screwed. But are we? Our ridiculous lifestyles ending may not be the worst thing ever. Who wants to work for the man anyway? Maybe a garden plot or small farm will be a better existence. Unfortunately, that rosy scenario conflicts with the reality of a POST-post-modern death spiral. Just think, Nietzsche would be proud of our civilization! We are playing ourselves out just as he had imagined. Poetic justice...
"God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we, murderers of all murderers, console ourselves? Who will wipe this blood off us? With what water could we purify ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent? There has never been a greater deed; and whosoever shall be born after us - for the sake of this deed he shall be part of a higher history than all history hitherto." -Friedrich Nietzsche
Now with PO I have a whole new appreciation for the concept. Jeez, I've just been floating through life like the rest of "them" until I read Twilight in the Desert. I took the red pill and here I am.(or was it the blue pill?)
We are in for tough times folks. I agree carving out a meager existence is a frame of mind thing. However, I think that oversimplifies our situation a bit. PO is a paradigm shifting event. Much like the tech-optimist babble about the "singularity" when AI asserts itself over us, PO will have a singularity of its own, only in reverse.
Simply, we are screwed. But are we? Our ridiculous lifestyles ending may not be the worst thing ever. Who wants to work for the man anyway? Maybe a garden plot or small farm will be a better existence. Unfortunately, that rosy scenario conflicts with the reality of a POST-post-modern death spiral. Just think, Nietzsche would be proud of our civilization! We are playing ourselves out just as he had imagined. Poetic justice...
"God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we, murderers of all murderers, console ourselves? Who will wipe this blood off us? With what water could we purify ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent? There has never been a greater deed; and whosoever shall be born after us - for the sake of this deed he shall be part of a higher history than all history hitherto." -Friedrich Nietzsche
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