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What's Better: Intuition Or Rationalism?

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Tue 30 May 2006, 15:32:24

If we could know all the facts and work out all the causal relationships, then I would go for rationalism, i.e., I would ignore hunches, "gut feelings", the strange sense of seemingly knowing something without really knowing how or why. But we can't know the half of it, generally, so intuition becomes an evolutionary tool in the toolbox. I imagine it to be a big mental engine operating below the threshhold of awareness, but there nonetheless and sending dispatches to the conscious arena. For all I know, this engine uses rationality as one of many analytical tools that we could only gape in wonder at if we really understood it.
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Re: What's Better: Intuition Or Rationalism?

Unread postby Chaparral » Tue 30 May 2006, 18:18:01

Uhhh, I dunno. Something kinda tells me i should double check the math first.

Daniel Dennett's "Freedom Evolves" and "Darwin's Dangerous Idea" are interesting reads in this area.
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Re: What's Better: Intuition Or Rationalism?

Unread postby Matrim » Tue 30 May 2006, 20:35:01

As a fairly spiritual (not to be confused with religious) person I've got to say theres more to those wierd gut feelings than most people would believe. That said a person still needs to be as rational as possible, but when you don't have all the facts you should certainly pay attention to those feelings, and attempt to discern where they're coming from.
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Re: What's Better: Intuition Or Rationalism?

Unread postby anneliese-nyc » Wed 31 May 2006, 00:02:46

PMS,

We only pay attention to certain things on a conscious level but that does not mean that your brain is not paying attention to the OTHER hundreds of things at the same time . Intuition is or maybe is info coming up to consciousness from the subconscious ?
If hypnotized , one may be able to recall time, temperature ,feelings , other events in the vicinity etc. that the person was not aware of at the time but recorded all the same.
So you are correct in my book as to intuition being a sub layer of info of sorts .

But as to choose rationality or intuition ? Hmmm...
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Re: What's Better: Intuition Or Rationalism?

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Wed 31 May 2006, 00:20:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('anneliese-nyc', '
')But as to choose rationality or intuition ? Hmmm...
Yes, hmmm?
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Re: What's Better: Intuition Or Rationalism?

Unread postby Doly » Wed 31 May 2006, 08:34:44

PMS, that's like asking if one would rather do without the left or the right side of one's brain. I'd rather have my whole brain functioning, thank you very much!
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Re: What's Better: Intuition Or Rationalism?

Unread postby galacticsurfer » Wed 31 May 2006, 10:08:27

generally speaking I do not think that when you come to a rational decision that you are being at all rational(picking a product to buy like a car or perhaps looking for a girl or boy friend). How many other factors from your past precondition you, perhaps even from milions of years of evolution or the culture. You could be practically a slave in this sense without any free will at all. Your intellectual rationalization of said decision is just some BS you cooked up to convince yourself you are actually making an independent decision and are not a sort of pavlovian robot from past cultural conditioning of your emotions,Karma or what have you.
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Re: What's Better: Intuition Or Rationalism?

Unread postby Whitefang » Wed 31 May 2006, 11:16:22

Dear PMS,

Been reading up on things, history of ideas from Coplestone, a prof.dude who likes to write hard.

From experience you need to be rational to handle daily affairs, world of reason and body as a unit that holds standard perception, the description holding our world in place.

For real speed and power, search for knowledge and the new frontier, we need more then intuition, a fine foundation or start on which to build a new tool to handle affairs.
Intuition can be enlarged and become your ally, a guide to know your personal future and prepare yourself with best strategy for the upcoming. Mold the world around you and swim with the flow.

Big deal is that our internal struggle is fought between your body housing your mind and your spirit, your energy body linked with everything but alone in a dangerous environment.

This world we can speak of, social and we know the workings, is a training ground for each to accumulate enough energy to get our magic going, link with the spirit.

The trick is to shut up internal dialogue, see energy direct and keep living with sober reasoning and use will, power from the belly to hunt for the unknown.
Then set up dreaming other worlds as real as this one, earn energy by living impeccable and see how far you can travel your destiny.

It sounds easy, and it would be, unfortunately time is against us and so is our personality crippled with fear, our first enemy.
Great thing is the near death of world society to motivate us to get our true nature going.

Only necessity will get us into gear for real change instead cheap talk like the above.
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Re: What's Better: Intuition Or Rationalism?

Unread postby Chaparral » Wed 31 May 2006, 13:14:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '
')But as to choose rationality or intuition ? Hmmm...


According to my rigorous, double and triple checked calculations, you should uuuse the fooooorce Luke!
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Re: What's Better: Intuition Or Rationalism?

Unread postby Dreamtwister » Wed 31 May 2006, 14:02:15

There was a study conducted not too long ago that suggested your "gut feeling" on meeting someone for the first time was more accurate than rigorous background checking. I don't remember who conducted it, but I'll try and dig it up.
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Re: What's Better: Intuition Or Rationalism?

Unread postby peaker_2005 » Thu 01 Jun 2006, 09:57:36

As always, the best is neither extreme, but somewhere in the middle. The problem is knowing which is best in which situation... :(
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