[beefstuinit]

Other than concern for people close to me I'm almost excited about PO.

Excited in the same way that i might be excited about joining the military if there was a real conflict going on.

That is, i'm enjoying life right now, but end of day its boring. I study, I go out on the weekends, the most exciting thing that happens is I fool around, other than that it's routine.

Its probably because im a 19 year old guy in school, but I'm looking foward to the challenge.

I have my doubts about the 10 day apopocalypse some of you anti-social types have in mind, I've seen movies of the great depression, WW2 europe, and starving nations... dont see a whole lot of angry zombie mobs. what i do see is people getting galvanized and getting something f'ing done. you can run for the hills or you can grab a surfboard...

Im sure shit will hit the fan however, and im looking foward to it in a way. Career choices right now... suck, i dont want to work behind a desk and as interesting as some engineering or scientific fields are, they just seem to narrowed. I dont want to find myself researching a better swiffer in 10 years you know?

not sure what the plan is yet, but the fact is now that I know somethings coming, im excited. i want to be the challenged, im 19, im educated, pretty intelligent, and the chance to do something worthwhile with that doesnt sound all that bad. of course im also broke...

hell, i guess i can always join the military and have a really really interesting 3 days to 2 years

[Pops]

Man I remember being 19 (I think) and I wanted something to happen really bad – I mean I wanted really bad for something to happen.

You’ll find many here I am sure are of your age or at least your disposition – if you see what I mean.

One more thought, go look at some actual photos or even better read some accounts of the times you mention. You’ll notice that the people in the pictures are thin, have lots of worry lines on their faces and most have calluses on their hands and patches on their britches - and none I've seen look too excited.


BTW, the 20k or so US injured or killed (no official count for the Other side) would probably disagree with your characterization of "Real Conflict" but then again, many of them aren't educated either.

[dissimulo]

Beef,

You seem to have the attitude of someone who has nothing to lose - no family to look out for, no home to protect, no money to try to preserve.

It is easy to look forward to major change if you don't have much at risk. I am not all that worried about the near future, but I do have a lot at risk. Because of that, I am quite concerned about major changes in our way of life down the road.

A dull life would be just fine with me. I'd just as soon keep this train on the tracks until my boring life is coming to a close.

We have more confort, more opportunity, and more options than people have ever had, but many of us don't seem to be able to enjoy it. I am enjoying it and I hope to be able to continue enjoying it for a long time.

[Ludi]

That's definitely the age to be ready for anything. Older people, with settled lives, property, families, maybe health problems, realise they have a lot to lose if/when things get bad.

I'm pretty flexible and reasonably adaptable to change, considering, but as a middle-aged person with health problems, I do worry quite a bit, knowing things would be tough for me even if things go along as well as they have up to now....if/when things get bad, I'm probably screwed.

[Schweinshaxe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', ' ') Older people, with settled lives, property

[Ludi]

Got a little hate on there, Schweinshaxe?

What about property owners who don't have a good job, spent their life savings on a little piece of land and a small house, and are scraping along hoping for a little peace and happiness in life?

Should they get kicked in the balls too, for their own good?

I worry about those kinds of folks, because I'm one of them.

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('beefstuinit', '.')..I'm looking foward to the challenge...

[PrairieMule]

The more I learn useful things from others, the less I worry.
The more I pay down my debt, the less I worry.
The more I learn about ranching, the less I worry.
The simpler I live materially, the less I worry.

and so on..

Eat the elephant one bite at a time.

[Schweinshaxe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'G')ot a little hate on there, Schweinshaxe?

What about property owners who don't have a good job, spent their life savings on a little piece of land and a small house, and are scraping along hoping for a little peace and happiness in life?

Should they get kicked in the balls too, for their own good?

I worry about those kinds of folks, because I'm one of them.

[Ludi]

Oh no matter their situation, people are going to bitch. I know that I'm very fortunate and better off than many, but all of this could disappear quite easily when things go in the crapper. I'm acutely aware of that, hence the concern.

[Schweinshaxe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'O')h no matter their situation, people are going to bitch. I know that I'm very fortunate and better off than many, but all of this could disappear quite easily when things go in the crapper. I'm acutely aware of that, hence the concern.

[rsch20]

collectivism in and of itself isn't evil, it's just that we suck so badly at it. ants do a great job with that system.

capitalism is just as bad imo, I don't think any of our current political models are workable with the standard human in the loop.

[MadMarcus]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schweinshaxe', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', ' ') Older people, with settled lives, property

[MadMarcus]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schweinshaxe', '
')My point is that I'd rather spend my money on a jet-set life now than to worry about the future. I have a well paid job today but it can be gone tomorrow.

[anneliese-nyc]

" When one has nothing to lose , one becomes courageous . We are timid only when there is something we can still cling to ."

Carlos Castaneda ~~" The Second Ring of Power "~~

[killJOY]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrairieMule', 'T')he more I learn useful things from others, the less I worry.
The more I pay down my debt, the less I worry.
The more I learn about ranching, the less I worry.
The simpler I live materially, the less I worry.

and so on..

Eat the elephant one bite at a time.

[anneliese-nyc]

" When one has nothing to lose , one becomes courageous . We are timid only when there is something we can still cling to ."

Carlos Castaneda ~~" The Second Ring of Power "~~

[clover]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('killJOY', 'O')K. Now what about the neighbors with the guns???