[Barbara]

Sorry to use the forum for "private purposes", but I ordered "Crossing the Rubicon" on amazon.de and now I need some help.
Since I don't know german, I made the order almost "blindly" and now I'm worried for the delivering etc.
Can any german member help me?

Thanks! Sorry everybody!

[ocbMaurice]

Wie kann ich ihnen helfen?
How can I help you?

[Mark_i]

hi Barbara,

I think it was me who recommended you to order the book at the german Amazon-Shop.

how can I help you?

You can send me an private board.message,too.

[Jack]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Mark_i', 'L')ocation: Bavaria, Germany - for the Americans here: this is in Europa ;o)

[Barbara]

wow mark, I forgot it was you from bavaria!

Here is the letter they wrote. Can you guess when the book will arrive, and what if there's nobody home?

thanks everybody!

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Guten Tag,

unser Logistikzentrum hat den unten stehenden Artikel soeben verschickt!

Unser Hinweis:

Sie koennen Ihr Kundenkonto jederzeit ueber "Mein Konto"
http://www.amazon.de/mein-konto einsehen und verwalten.

Ihre Bestellnummer 302-6468868-0934460 (eingegangen 26. Oktober 2004 11.46 MEST)
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Bestellt Titel Preis Versandt Zwischen-
summe
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1 Crossing the Rubicon: 9/11 and EUR 19,44 1 EUR 19,44

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Zwischensumme inkl. MwSt.: EUR 19,44
Versandkosten inkl. MwSt.: EUR 5,83
Endbetrag inkl. MwSt.: EUR 24,30
Bezahlt per Aktionsgutschein: EUR 0,97
Enthaltene MwSt.: 4,00%: EUR 0,97

Die Sendung geht an:

XXXXXXXX
Italien

Der Versand erfolgt ueber: Deutsche Post Paeckchen.

Sollte eine Zustellung nicht erfolgreich sein: Pakete und Sendungen werden
in der Regel eine Woche bei Ihrem oertlichen Postamt fuer Sie aufbewahrt.
Manchmal nimmt auch ein Nachbar die Bestellung entgegen.

Ihre Bestellung ist damit vollstaendig ausgefuehrt.

Ihr Kaufvertrag ist mit dieser E-Mail zu Stande gekommen.

Informationen rund um das Bestellen bei Amazon.de einschliesslich
unserer Rueckgabegarantie finden Sie hier:

http://www.amazon.de/hilfe

Und hier sind unsere Allgemeinen Geschaeftsbedingungen:

http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/subst/help/agb.html/

(Dies ist eine automatisch versendete Nachricht. Bitte antworten Sie
nicht auf dieses Schreiben, da die Adresse nur zur Versendung von
E-Mails eingerichtet ist.)

Freundliche Gruesse

Kundenservice Amazon.de
http://www.amazon.de/

[Jack]

Google translates as follows:

Good day, our logistics center the article standing down just sent away!

Our reference: They can see and administer your customer account at any time over "my account" http://www.amazon.de/mein account. Their part number 302-6468868-0934460 (received 26 October 2004 11,46 MEST)
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orders title price dispatched intermediate hums
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1 Crossing the Rubicon: 9/11 and EUR 19.44 1 EUR 19.44
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intermediate total inclusive VAT: EUR 19.44
forwarding expenses inclusive VAT: EUR 5.83
total amount inclusive VAT: EUR 24.30
pays by action coupon: EUR 0.97 contained VAT: 4,00%:
EUR 0.97 the transmission concerns: XXXXXXXX
Italy the dispatch takes place over: German post office package.

A feed should not be successful: Packages and transmissions are usually kept one week at your local post office for you. Sometimes also a neighbour receives the order. Their order is completely implemented thereby. Their sales contract came with this E-Mail to conditions. Information around ordering with Amazon.de including our return warranty finds you here round: http://www.amazon.de/hilfe and are our general trading conditions here: http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/subst/ ... html/(this is an automatically dispatched message. Please you do not answer to this letter, are there the address only for dispatching of enamels furnished.) Friendly greetings kundenservice Amazon.de

[Mark_i]

Jack's translation seems to be correct, they've just gave it to german post parcel-service (=DHL) yesterday. How long it will take until delivery for Italy, I don't know.

But I think not more than 4 or 5 days.

[Grace]

Hi there, I have been a Peak Oil believer (that makes it sound like a cult, but whatever) since 2001, and am hoping to beat the rush to the hinterland and have my own quasi-homestead by about 2010 at the latest (which might be too late). I want to get in touch with people for two purposes:

1) My husband and I are likely to be living in BADEN WURTTEMBURG, GERMANY, next year (2005-06 academic year), probably in KONSTANZ. I won't have a work permit, but I would LOVE to get in touch with someone in that area who can teach me any of the following: draft horse work and technology, shearing, spinning, weaving, basic construction/woodworking, organic grain growing, cow dairying, seed saving, etc etc etc. I am a useful and experienced worker in small-to-medium scale organic gardens, I can milk a goat, collect eggs, build a compost pile, etc. but am looking to take it to the next level. If you are in Baden-Wurttemburg and have a small farm and could use my help next year, PLEASE send me a pm.

2) In the longer term, I know that I won't be able to run my homestead by myself. First i just don't have all the skills and all the time (I can't be farmer AND housewife), and second, I plan to acquire said homestead by being a priest in the Episcopal church and living in the rectory of a rural parish, so I would have to actually preach sermons and stuff too. (Yes, I am a Christian of progressive politics. We do exist. The Bible even hints that God might care about how we treat Creation.) If anyone who's handy, or likes cooking, washing dishes, doing the heavy work around the place, and generally pitching in, or wants to learn to do some of this stuff, wants to team up with us (me & my husband, who's into orchards, herbs & pigs), PLEASE, again, send me a pm.

Thanks, and I hope to meet some like-minded folks!

Grace
(depressed over the election and hoping PO explodes on Bush's watch, just to show him)

[savethehumans]

Hey, Grace! Me, too! Matter of fact, I just finished "progressively prosletyizing (sp?)" Guest over at the Bush...Rapture thread!

Godspeed on your mission to acquire both useful and barterable skills during your time in Germany! Me, I once killed a cactus by overwatering it, so I hope to learn to can stuff, so that people like you can grow it, and I can preserve it! A ministry in Vermont sounds good--Vermont's probably a great place to wait it all out, and rebuild from, Lord willing. ('Course, we may have ruined the ecosystem up there with pollution and global warming, but one obstacle at a time, I guess....)

Don't know if 2010 is too late for the preparing ones or not, as long as we are in prayerful preparation through it all, but it's sure not gonna look good for the rosy-tinted glasses ones. (You know, like our newly elected-- it IS his first win, you know!--President! ) My problem is that I'll probably be having to get a job soon (been living off my Dad's estate $), and that if, by some miracle, I DO get a job, it won't be doing anything of use post-crash, and that seems like SUCH a waste of time for something as about-to-be-worthless paper money. If you're a praying person, pray for people like me, in positions like this. We are all SO unsituated for what needs to be done in these times....

Just encouraging: remember, you and I aren't working on our own strength! Keep the faith; and help both of us when we're in unbelief!

[Mark_i]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')i there, I have been a Peak Oil believer (that makes it sound like a cult, but whatever) since 2001, and am hoping to beat the rush to the hinterland and have my own quasi-homestead by about 2010 at the latest (which might be too late). I want to get in touch with people for two purposes:

1) My husband and I are likely to be living in BADEN WURTTEMBURG, GERMANY, next year (2005-06 academic year), probably in KONSTANZ. I won't have a work permit, but I would LOVE to get in touch with someone in that area who can teach me any of the following: draft horse work and technology, shearing, spinning, weaving, basic construction/woodworking, organic grain growing, cow dairying, seed saving, etc etc etc. I am a useful and experienced worker in small-to-medium scale organic gardens, I can milk a goat, collect eggs, build a compost pile, etc. but am looking to take it to the next level. If you are in Baden-Wurttemburg and have a small farm and could use my help next year, PLEASE send me a pm.

Hi,

Demeter(www.demeter.de) is by far the largest cooperation of bio-farmers in Germany, they'll surely help you at finding an internship. Their contact-adress for Baden-Württemberg is

Forschungsring für Biologisch-Dynamische Wirtschaftsweise
Mrs. Edith Daniel

Tel. +49(0)6155/841240
auskunftsstelle@forschungsring.de

just ask her by email.

Will you do your studies in Konstanz? Could it also be another university or should it definetely be Konstanz? BTW: a beautiful city just near the Alps, and even Sitzerland & Austria are just on the other side of the lake, Bavaria and the Schwarzwald is also nearby.

BTW II: an internship at a mountain-farm in the Bavarian Alps could also be of interest to you, these farms are often not a member of an coop/organisation of bio-farming while working mostly without any larger mechanization. And in those small villages a lot of old-fashioned handcraft is still alive, mostly from the elderly who are afraid to take this knowledge to their graves when not passing it on. So they will surely be able to show you a lot when treated with interest and respect. Most of these people there also have a deep (catholic) faith.



I don't know how this will affect a working permit, but I think, helping at a farm for food and sleep without a payment should be OK.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')2) In the longer term, I know that I won't be able to run my homestead by myself. First i just don't have all the skills and all the time (I can't be farmer AND housewife), and second, I plan to acquire said homestead by being a priest in the Episcopal church and living in the rectory of a rural parish, so I would have to actually preach sermons and stuff too. (Yes, I am a Christian of progressive politics. We do exist. The Bible even hints that God might care about how we treat Creation.) If anyone who's handy, or likes cooking, washing dishes, doing the heavy work around the place, and generally pitching in, or wants to learn to do some of this stuff, wants to team up with us (me & my husband, who's into orchards, herbs & pigs), PLEASE, again, send me a pm.

[Grace]

Wunderbar! Thank you both so much!

Now I need to, like, actually learn some German ... my knowledge is mainly restricted to large chunks of the Luther Bible from having sung lots of Bach and Brahms ...

Grace

[Mark_i]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Grace', '
')
Now I need to, like, actually learn some German ... my knowledge is mainly restricted to large chunks of the Luther Bible from having sung lots of Bach and Brahms ...

Grace