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"LET'S SEE WHAT'S TRUE"

Unread postby Carlhole » Wed 24 May 2006, 19:28:05

[url=http://wtc7.net/events/nyt/index.html]DON PAUL AND JIM HOFFMAN CHALLENGE NEW YORK TIMES'
WRITERS JAMES GLANZ AND ERIC LIPTON TO DEBATE
ON THE CRIMES OF SEPTEMBER 11, 2001 IN NEW YORK CITY[/url]

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* Press Release, 5/22/06 (HTML)
* Press Release, 5/22/06 (PDF)
* Debate Invitation Letter, 5/29/16 (HTML)



Reason for the Challenge

On the occasion of the release of their new DVD, 9/11 Guilt / The Proof Is in Your Hands, Jim Hoffman and Don Paul, two of the most acclaimed writers on the subject of 2001's 'Attack on America', invite James Glantz and Eric Lipton, staff writers for The New York Times and authors of a 2003 book on the World Trade Center and its destruction to a debate on the facts and consequences of the 9/11/01 crimes in New York City.

"We chose James Glantz and Eric Lipton for our invitation because their skills and prominence nicely represent the illusion-bearers in mass-media who have steadfastly covered up the obvious demolition of World Trade Center Building 7 and the Twin Towers," said Don Paul, whose presentation in the new DVD is titled 'Indicting Financiers behind the Crimes of 9/11/01'.

"City in the Sky stands out for its use of inventive prose and silly anthropomorphisms to hide basic realties about the Twin Towers' structures and their explosive, symmetrical destruction," said Jim Hoffman, creator of the highly praised websites WTC7.net and 911Research.WTC7.net, "We hope Mr. Glantz and Mr. Lipton will join us in a discussion that could help to restore journalistic integrity in the United States."

"We need our mass-media to at last expose the 'Big Lie' of 9/11/01 before more of such lies provide the 'pretext' for a war on Iran," Paul added. "We hope for a public debate before that war starts."


Debate Invitation Letter

I'd like to see that.
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Re: "LET'S SEE WHAT'S TRUE"

Unread postby AlCzervik » Wed 24 May 2006, 19:41:36

While we are on the subject...especially if you don't believe the demolition stuff, you should watch minutes 45-60 of "What's The Truth?" It's amazing.
What's The Truth - Why Indeed Did The Towers Collapse?
http://www.911podcasts.com/display.php?vid=95

Many here have seen Loose Change Second Edition, which is highly speculative, but doing very well in Google rankings.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 3762628848
http://www.rynearson.com/

Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime is the premier LIHOP video, but doesn't focus on the physical evidence.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 8400743688
http://www.911podcasts.com/display.php?vid=92

These last two are pretty solid straight eyewitness videos on demolition issues.
9/11 Revisited.
http://tinyurl.com/jn5jx
9/11 Eyewitness.
http://tinyurl.com/kboot
http://tinyurl.com/egcdt
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Re: "LET'S SEE WHAT'S TRUE"

Unread postby Carlhole » Wed 24 May 2006, 19:49:45

Also by the way, June 2-4 there will be a big 911 Truth Movement Conference in Chicago.

Barrie Zwicker, who was the producer/host of the Peak Oil film "End of Suburbia", will be one of the keynote speakers along withe Physicist Steven E. Jones and others.
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Re: "LET'S SEE WHAT'S TRUE"

Unread postby Zardoz » Wed 24 May 2006, 20:28:30

"Let's see what's true"?

Ummmm...

It's a debate, so shouldn't it be "Let's see who debates better"?
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Re: "LET'S SEE WHAT'S TRUE"

Unread postby Carlhole » Wed 24 May 2006, 20:54:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '"')Let's see what's true"?

Ummmm...

It's a debate, so shouldn't it be "Let's see who debates better"?


I think the facts of the matter might have some bearing on the success or failure of a particular point of view. If an argument is easy to win because of factual evidence, then debating skills are not so important.

If the the facts of the matter are so plain, then I should see no reason why this particular challenge should be refused.
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Re: "LET'S SEE WHAT'S TRUE"

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Wed 24 May 2006, 21:39:38

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If the the facts of the matter are so plain, then I should see no reason why this particular challenge should be refused.
Just because you see no reason doesn't mean diddly squat. :-D There is no reason available for your perusal. It's all wrapped up and contained in the Pentagon. So shut up and quit whining. Deal with it. Watch the show while it all goes down. An alternative viewpoint. 8)
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Re: "LET'S SEE WHAT'S TRUE"

Unread postby Specop_007 » Wed 24 May 2006, 21:55:27

Its a good thing this was brought to light. Its been, what, 15 or 16 hours since we last heard of the 9/11 consipracy. Hell, with the average Americans attention span of half an hour they might have forgot all about it!!

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Re: "LET'S SEE WHAT'S TRUE"

Unread postby Schweinshaxe » Wed 24 May 2006, 22:03:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'I')ts a good thing this was brought to light. Its been, what, 15 or 16 hours since we last heard of the 9/11 consipracy. Hell, with the average Americans attention span of half an hour they might have forgot all about it!!

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Re: "LET'S SEE WHAT'S TRUE"

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Wed 24 May 2006, 22:04:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schweinshaxe', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'I')ts a good thing this was brought to light. Its been, what, 15 or 16 hours since we last heard of the 9/11 consipracy. Hell, with the average Americans attention span of half an hour they might have forgot all about it!!

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Re: "LET'S SEE WHAT'S TRUE"

Unread postby PolestaR » Wed 24 May 2006, 22:11:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AlCzervik', 'W')hile we are on the subject...especially if you don't believe the demolition stuff, you should watch minutes 45-60 of "What's The Truth?" It's amazing.
What's The Truth - Why Indeed Did The Towers Collapse?
http://www.911podcasts.com/display.php?vid=95


Very good video. Thanks for posting it.

Loose Change is really quite.... stupid. If we got rid of that video it would be helpful in finding the truth.
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Re: "LET'S SEE WHAT'S TRUE"

Unread postby Kickinthegob » Thu 25 May 2006, 23:56:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'I')'d like to see that.

Well so would I and millions of others I am sure but how are they (the NY Times) going to respond to the invitation? I would bet they ignore it due to multiple conflicts of interest and James and Eric are nothing more than hand puppets.

You don't hear much debate going on about this, I would call it more like denial and/or acceptance of some facts in this world. Supporters of the gobermint story really have nothing to debate with except a fairy tale printed and published by a commission of criminals and what has been driven into their heads every day since by the corporate controlled media. Right now is a tense moment in US history as the fairy tale masters ponder how to respond to the overwhelming tide of public opinion regarding 9/11 and what might have really happened that day! :shock:
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