[fletch961]

Heritage Foundation

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f enacted, the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act (CIRA, S.2611) would be the most dramatic change in immigration law in 80 years, allowing an estimated 103 million persons to legally immigrate to the U.S. over the next 20 years—fully one-third of the current population of the United States.

[holmes]

Its not going to be pretty. The dream will be a nightmare by the end of my life.

[NTBKtrader]

time to head for the hills...

[thor]

Consulting my latest version of Matlab gave me the following daily immigrant inflow:

>> impd = 103e6/20/365

impd =

1.4110e+004

>>

Absurd.

[NTBKtrader]

Yep, very sustainable for the post cheap oil world...

[holmes]

LOL! Good stuff thor. Folks fail to realize the situation we are facing in 20 years. The USA population is faced to DOUBLE in 20 years by just the illegals and legals that are in NOW. adding this in (i need to do the numbers) will either triple or QUADRUPLE the population. Shit WILL HTF. Aint no amount of cornucopian full metal Bull shit gonna do squat. The cornies will be blasting away on the keyboard as their house is being torched by the hungry "extras". This is how these carnage situations begin. Overshoot. Folks raeally need to do peace corps or military duty in overhsoot hell holes. especially the cornie vapor lock chamber types.

[frankthetank]

When times do turn bad, i wouldn't want to be an immigrant! We're fully stocked on guns and ammo around these parts.

[fletch961]

The President is supposed to address the nation tonite concerning illegal immigration. How is he suppose to look america in the face when a respected think-tank like the Hertigage Foundation releases number like this? It looks like the Senate and the President wants the real problem to be legal immigatration. Illegal problem just small potatoes.

103 million is the "conservative" number. Read the whole article it gets scary. Up to 12 million can legal enter per year 20 year from now. It says employers can actively recruite employees anywhere in the world. Bangladesh workers make what an hour?

Senate's solution to trade deficit.....Import everyone in world.

I can't believe it but I'm actually going to say It's time for a third party.

[pea-jay]

Yeah right. Doubtful this level of immigration will happen unless we can continue our cheap energy fiesta with something else. The economic crunch will pretty much cut off the demand for immigration here in the US, anti-immigrant fervor will add to the lessening of the attractiveness of coming here. Meanwhile, the increasing cost of fuel will make it more difficult to simply travel here. That alone will cut the future population figures. So will reduced birth rates. Birth rates dropped back during the Great Depression and ensuing war years, so there is no reason why miserable economic conditions will do the same now.

The problem with demographic projections is that they inherently try and assume all of the variables today will remain more or less constant over time, increasing or decreasing in predictable fashions. I know, I was responsible for demographic projections where I used to work. We would always note in the projections somewhere that the figures assumed no changes in underlying factors.

So I take with a grain a salt, projections by others of this and that which assume a continuation of the status quo. It's just not possible. Just like 100M new immigrants and children. Not. Going. To. Happen.

[pea-jay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('frankthetank', 'W')hen times do turn bad, i wouldn't want to be an immigrant! We're fully stocked on guns and ammo around these parts.

[NTBKtrader]

[FoxV]

All this sounds like a ploy to try and boost productivity to support the aging population.

I wonder how those 100M immigrants are going to feel when they realized they were only allowed in to do manual labour for over weight bed ridden octogenarians

Desperate times call for desperate measures, and this is about as desperate as it gets.

in the end it'll never happen, the US is going to become such a desert wasteland soon they're going to have a problem with migration out let alone worrying about immigration in

[pea-jay]

Okay, so I took a look at the bill and it's even worse than I imagined. These pics were posted in another thread here, but this thread has a better discussion going.



Simply stunning. The senate's answer to the problem of one million illegals per year is to throw the door wide enough for five million to enter? I can't imagine this making it out of congress. Good thing too. It would reduce the US to third world status in terms of wage and working conditions, let alone the housing and resource implications.

Like I said, this will never make it and this growth will never materialize. Projections of the future are fine and dandy but these aren't grounded in any rational logic.

[Strontium_Dog]

Solent Green is Pablo